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Post by Propagandhi711 Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:08 am

you were saying last year that LGND has a chance of going parabolic when it was in 70s (before it dipped to 40 and shot all the way back up to 82 today). chartwise it has been giving strong buy signals over past couple of weeks, do you still see it going parabolic? fwiw I hold a decent number with average price of 53 and am holding. question is, do still think it's worth adding to?

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Post by swapna Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:41 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:you were saying last year that LGND has a chance of going parabolic when it was in 70s (before it dipped to 40 and shot all the way back up to 82 today). chartwise it has been giving strong buy signals over past couple of weeks, do you still see it going parabolic? fwiw I hold a decent number with average price of 53 and am holding. question is, do still think it's worth adding to?

hahaha @"going parabolic"! voodoo? don't forget the "junnu" and the silk vest that your mother "stitched" for you.

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Post by truthbetold Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:53 am

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swapna wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:you were saying last year that LGND has a chance of going parabolic when it was in 70s (before it dipped to 40 and shot all the way back up to 82 today). chartwise it has been giving strong buy signals over past couple of weeks, do you still see it going parabolic? fwiw I hold a decent number with average price of 53 and am holding. question is, do still think it's worth adding to?

hahaha @"going parabolic"! voodoo? don't forget the "junnu" and the silk vest that your mother "stitched" for you.
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Post by Hellsangel Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:53 am

Ammachi, during the time you became stuck in your own mire in the University town of not insignificant size, the world has moved on:

http://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/cotd/slv20110309.aspx

Check the first sentence in the link above.

For more details:

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/parabolicindicator.asp
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Post by Propagandhi711 Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:20 am

swapna wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:you were saying last year that LGND has a chance of going parabolic when it was in 70s (before it dipped to 40 and shot all the way back up to 82 today). chartwise it has been giving strong buy signals over past couple of weeks, do you still see it going parabolic? fwiw I hold a decent number with average price of 53 and am holding. question is, do still think it's worth adding to?

hahaha @"going parabolic"! voodoo? don't forget the "junnu" and the silk vest that your mother "stitched" for you.

why dont you go eat your stool softener fortified soft foods and take a midday nap in the corner over there?

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Post by swapna Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:58 am

truthbetold wrote:J
swapna wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:you were saying last year that LGND has a chance of going parabolic when it was in 70s (before it dipped to 40 and shot all the way back up to 82 today). chartwise it has been giving strong buy signals over past couple of weeks, do you still see it going parabolic? fwiw I hold a decent number with average price of 53 and am holding. question is, do still think it's worth adding to?

hahaha @"going parabolic"! voodoo? don't forget the "junnu" and the silk vest that your mother "stitched" for you.
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soothbesold, poopah711 refers to the average price of his lgnd stock. tell me, how is the average price of one's holdings related to decisions on buying and selling?

is it one's objective to minimize the average price of one's holdings of some stock, or to maximize earnings from the available resources (including those holdings)?

sooth, here's what one wise man said: "going parabolic is to investing as going anal is to intercourse."

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Post by truthbetold Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:34 pm

Slimy
If you are unaware of the relationship between your avg price and decision to sell, you should not be posting on this thread. 
Go back to your miserable lonely life.

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Post by swapna Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:45 pm

truthbetold wrote:Slimy
If you are unaware of the relationship between your avg price and decision to sell, you should not be posting on this thread. 
Go back to your miserable lonely life.

soothbesold, i'm still waiting for you to enlighten me on how a rational investor's future decisions on buying and selling stock might be influenced by the average price he paid for his current holdings.

I did say "rational investor," not silk vest-wearing, junnu-gulping, going-parabolic, voodoomeister.

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Post by Hellsangel Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:12 pm

swapna wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Slimy
If you are unaware of the relationship between your avg price and decision to sell, you should not be posting on this thread. 
Go back to your miserable lonely life.

soothbesold, i'm still waiting for you to enlighten me on how a rational investor's future decisions on buying and selling stock might be influenced by the average price he paid for his current holdings.

I did say "rational investor," not silk vest-wearing, junnu-gulping, going-parabolic, voodoomeister.
Ammachi, are you looking for a chance to talk about Anchoring now?
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Post by truthbetold Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:29 pm

Slimy
There is no such thing as rational investor. Only breed out there is greedy. But that is not relevant.

Ex: 9 months back you bought Apple at 100. One month back you bought another share of Apple at 120. Today Your cost per Apple share is 110. That is the avg price paid. In other words your cost of purchase is 220 for two shares. Apple today is at 127.  You can figure out whether you make money or not with either avg price or total cost of shares.

Now if you want to bring in net present value into discussion, you can do that by adding terms to the simple math above. Logic remains the same. 

Traders, whose investing horizon is limited, use avg price. Long term investors can also use it with a npv adjustment.

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Post by swapna Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:45 pm

truthbetold wrote:Slimy
There is no such thing as rational investor. Only breed out there is greedy. But that is not relevant.

Ex: 9 months back you bought Apple at 100. One month back you bought another share of Apple at 120. Today Your cost per Apple share is 110. That is the avg price paid. In other words your cost of purchase is 220 for two shares. Apple today is at 127.  You can figure out whether you make money or not with either avg price or total cost of shares.

Now if you want to bring in net present value into discussion, you can do that by adding terms to the simple math above. Logic remains the same. 

Traders, whose investing horizon is limited, use avg price. Long term investors can also use it with a npv adjustment.

you sound like a schoolboy proudly displaying his ability to calculate an average price per share for shares bought in different numbers and at different prices over a period of time!

notice that, despite knowing the average price per share of his LGND stock, and the current market price, poopah711 is unable to decide whether he should add to, lessen, or maintain his current holdings, and appeals to the byte-counter for advice.

the difficulty is that, in an asset-constrained environment, increasing one's investment in LGND lessens one's investment in other stocks, and the marginal value of investment in LGND is determined not only by the return from LGND, but also by the marginal opportunity costs (the "shadow prices") of the available assets.

thus, it's impossible to say whether one will "make money" if one sold off all of one's LGND stock, unless one takes into account all practical alternative investment opportunities, and one's resource and risk constraints.

in 2015, while the kind of investment portfolio optimization under constraints that I've hinted at is not impossible - markovitz and weingartner demonstrated it in the 60s - schoolboy calculations of average stock prices and their use in investment decisions are naive and pointless.

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Post by b_A Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:49 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:you were saying last year that LGND has a chance of going parabolic when it was in 70s (before it dipped to 40 and shot all the way back up to 82 today). chartwise it has been giving strong buy signals over past couple of weeks, do you still see it going parabolic? fwiw I hold a decent number with average price of 53 and am holding. question is, do still think it's worth adding to?

The chart looks very good any which way you look at it.
http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=LGND&p=W&yr=5&mn=0&dy=0&i=t22489447065&r=1428978462955

It is near all time highs- no overhead resistance . It should be blue skies and clear sailing to 115-120 range(measured move) in the next six months .

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Post by truthbetold Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:18 am

Slimy fuck idiot
Adding opportunity cost or marginal cost or throwing names does not make you a better investor. It does not need more than an old aunt's common sense to know 80  dollar for a 53 avg price beats most market opportunities by miles.  The two posters above are beyond your 6% vs 8% discussion and are in Gordon Greco territory of greed. They are trying to figure out if the stock could go even higher than 80. 
You are just jealous. Get over it. You got your pension from some university which made an error several years ago. Be happy.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:41 am

swapna wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Slimy
There is no such thing as rational investor. Only breed out there is greedy. But that is not relevant.

Ex: 9 months back you bought Apple at 100. One month back you bought another share of Apple at 120. Today Your cost per Apple share is 110. That is the avg price paid. In other words your cost of purchase is 220 for two shares. Apple today is at 127.  You can figure out whether you make money or not with either avg price or total cost of shares.

Now if you want to bring in net present value into discussion, you can do that by adding terms to the simple math above. Logic remains the same. 

Traders, whose investing horizon is limited, use avg price. Long term investors can also use it with a npv adjustment.

you sound like a schoolboy proudly displaying his ability to calculate an average price per share for shares bought in different numbers and at different prices over a period of time!

notice that, despite knowing the average price per share of his LGND stock, and the current market price, poopah711 is unable to decide whether he should add to, lessen, or maintain his current holdings, and appeals to the byte-counter for advice.

the difficulty is that, in an asset-constrained environment, increasing one's investment in LGND lessens one's investment in other stocks, and the marginal value of investment in LGND is determined not only by the return from LGND, but also by the marginal opportunity costs (the "shadow prices") of the available assets.

thus, it's impossible to say whether one will "make money" if one sold off all of one's LGND stock, unless one takes into account all practical alternative investment opportunities, and one's resource and risk constraints.

in 2015, while the kind of investment portfolio optimization under constraints that I've hinted at is not impossible - markovitz and weingartner demonstrated it in the 60s - schoolboy calculations of average stock prices and their use in investment decisions are naive and pointless.

here's a hint: take your free advise, your asset constrained environment (bwahahaa), marginal opportunity costs, practical alternative investment opportunities, wrap them all up into a tight tampon-like contraption and shove it deeply up your ass.

old fart dusts off old books and wanks furiously on internet offering unwanted free advise throwing around lingo that he thinks makes him sound like he knows what he's talking about. 

the day anyone here looks to you for advise on anything is the day you should kill yourself coz it'll be the high point of your life and wont get any better after that.

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