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Post by rawemotions Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:40 pm

Apparently Tamilnadu Towheed Jamath wants to organize an Islamist Conference against Idol Worship. 

Somebody here claimed that Political Islamist Muslims (especially in South India  & Tamilnadu ) respect the Indian constitution, and that the Indian constitution is supreme.

Is a conference on Jan 31st against Idol worship / Photos of Gods compliant to Indian constitution ?

It is interesting that the petitioner (another Muslim organization) only cites communal harmony, and does not quote the fact that it is against constitution of India, in its petition. So if this were to be a Muslim Majority area, the conference is acceptable ?

http://news.niticentral.com/2016/01/24/islamist-conference-against-idol-worship-opposed-by-muslim-body/?utm_source=nc_sidebar&utm_medium=nc_sidebar&utm_term=nc_sidebar&utm_campaign=nc_sidebar

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Post by truthbetold Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:18 pm

Raw,

It is provocative. If a similar topic on islam were to be held in a muslim majority area of India ( ex: old city hyderabad), the organizers life would be in danger .

India is a democratic nation with freedom of expression and freedom to spread their religion. Those guys should have the right to arrange a conference. I hope (but I doubt) they have the courage to let any voice that may challenge their propaganda to be heard at conference.




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Post by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:35 am

truthbetold wrote:Raw,

It is provocative. If a similar topic on islam  were to be held in a muslim majority area of India ( ex: old city hyderabad), the organizers life would be in danger .

India is a democratic nation with freedom of expression and freedom to spread their religion.  Those guys should have the right to arrange a conference.  I hope (but I doubt) they have the courage to let any voice that may challenge their propaganda to be heard at conference.




Bravo, unkil. I admire how you managed to rein in your initial, instinctive rawmotions-like response and came back with a nobler we-are-better-so-let-them-have-their-say stance.

This is what living in the US should ideally do - make you more liberal and explorative of the higher instincts within us. Surprising that this good sense has not dawned on the chaddis on this board despite all these years in the US enjoying the secular protections and liberties that the country offers its minorities.
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:11 am

truthbetold wrote:Raw,

It is provocative. If a similar topic on islam  were to be held in a muslim majority area of India ( ex: old city hyderabad), the organizers life would be in danger .

India is a democratic nation with freedom of expression and freedom to spread their religion.  Those guys should have the right to arrange a conference.  I hope (but I doubt) they have the courage to let any voice that may challenge their propaganda to be heard at conference.

Agree....

We should let them convert 100 people WEEKLY inside the Triplicane temple

We should let them open a Beef Biriyani stall inside all temples

We should let them destroy the temple towers and idols on those towers so that the env is harmonious.

We should offer to convert the entire family of hindu bride/groom whenever they marry muslims

All these bcz we are hindus and noble and liberal and we are INDIANS.

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:23 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Raw,

It is provocative. If a similar topic on islam  were to be held in a muslim majority area of India ( ex: old city hyderabad), the organizers life would be in danger .

India is a democratic nation with freedom of expression and freedom to spread their religion.  Those guys should have the right to arrange a conference.  I hope (but I doubt) they have the courage to let any voice that may challenge their propaganda to be heard at conference.

Agree....

We should let them convert 100 people WEEKLY inside the Triplicane temple

We should let them open a Beef Biriyani stall inside all temples

We should let them destroy the temple towers and idols on those towers so that the env is harmonious.

We should offer to convert the entire family of hindu bride/groom whenever they marry muslims

All these bcz we are hindus and noble and liberal and we are INDIANS.

Wow..what a flutter you are getting into, just because some bunch of Muslims somewhere want to have a conference against idol worship!! Aunty, instead of all this pointless activism on a board patronized by a dozen Hindus and 2 Kishtians, why don't you organize a conference in Coimbatore against Islamist terrorism and invite all the Islamic groups in the area to speak at the event?

Surprising that no chaddi dares to do that - all they manage is the usual limpwristed breastbeating on how poor Hindus are being victimized to the point of not being able to step out of their homes after 8pm.
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Post by rawemotions Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:35 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Raw,

It is provocative. If a similar topic on islam  were to be held in a muslim majority area of India ( ex: old city hyderabad), the organizers life would be in danger .

India is a democratic nation with freedom of expression and freedom to spread their religion.  Those guys should have the right to arrange a conference.  I hope (but I doubt) they have the courage to let any voice that may challenge their propaganda to be heard at conference.

Agree....

We should let them convert 100 people WEEKLY inside the Triplicane temple

We should let them open a Beef Biriyani stall inside all temples

We should let them destroy the temple towers and idols on those towers so that the env is harmonious.

We should offer to convert the entire family of hindu bride/groom whenever they marry muslims

All these bcz we are hindus and noble and liberal and we are INDIANS.

Wow..what a flutter you are getting into, just because some bunch of Muslims somewhere want to have a conference against idol worship!! Aunty, instead of all this pointless activism on a board patronized by a dozen Hindus and 2 Kishtians, why don't you organize a conference in Coimbatore against Islamist terrorism and invite all the Islamic groups in the area to speak at the event?

Surprising that no chaddi dares to do that - all they manage is the usual limpwristed breastbeating on how poor Hindus are being victimized to the point of not being able to step out of their homes after 8pm.
This is not just any conference. It is a very serious matter, since it inherently questions the basic principle of the constitution. All religions are equal, and you cannot say one is better than the other. The very fact that a few folks in Southern state of Tamilnadu are openly advocating a rabidly communal and dangerous doctrine, do not bode well for TN & southern India. Until now the ordinarly Muslims chose to ignore these kind of statements in the books. However the political Islamists are getting embolden to thrust their doctrine on all the Muslims, blatantly disregarding the constitution of India. It just shows they do not care much about the constitution of India, and would not hesitate to ask tomorrow for Sharia. In that sense they are not unlike the Daesh, which uses the same books as a political doctrine to exterminate and enslave non-Muslims, and also attack fellow Muslims who do not agree with them. It also indicates the extent of radicalization that has happened in these parts. It is time for the media and fellow Muslims to oppose them in a muscular manner and point out to them the supremacy of the constitution of India. But media suprisingly is silent, the way they are silent about Political Islamist atrocities in Malda, where the riots were used as a cover, to destroy records in the Police station about fake currency suspects.

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:02 am

rawemotions wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Raw,

It is provocative. If a similar topic on islam  were to be held in a muslim majority area of India ( ex: old city hyderabad), the organizers life would be in danger .

India is a democratic nation with freedom of expression and freedom to spread their religion.  Those guys should have the right to arrange a conference.  I hope (but I doubt) they have the courage to let any voice that may challenge their propaganda to be heard at conference.

Agree....

We should let them convert 100 people WEEKLY inside the Triplicane temple

We should let them open a Beef Biriyani stall inside all temples

We should let them destroy the temple towers and idols on those towers so that the env is harmonious.

We should offer to convert the entire family of hindu bride/groom whenever they marry muslims

All these bcz we are hindus and noble and liberal and we are INDIANS.

Wow..what a flutter you are getting into, just because some bunch of Muslims somewhere want to have a conference against idol worship!! Aunty, instead of all this pointless activism on a board patronized by a dozen Hindus and 2 Kishtians, why don't you organize a conference in Coimbatore against Islamist terrorism and invite all the Islamic groups in the area to speak at the event?

Surprising that no chaddi dares to do that - all they manage is the usual limpwristed breastbeating on how poor Hindus are being victimized to the point of not being able to step out of their homes after 8pm.
This is not just any conference. It is a very serious matter, since it inherently questions the basic principle of the constitution. All religions are equal, and you cannot say one is better than the other. The very fact that a few folks in Southern state of Tamilnadu are openly advocating a rabidly communal and dangerous doctrine, do not bode well for TN & southern India. Until now the ordinarly Muslims chose to ignore these kind of statements in the books. However the political Islamists are getting embolden to thrust their doctrine on all the Muslims, blatantly disregarding the constitution of India. It just shows they do not care much about the constitution of India, and would not hesitate to ask tomorrow for Sharia. In that sense they are not unlike the Daesh, which uses the same books as a political doctrine to exterminate and enslave non-Muslims, and also attack fellow Muslims who do not agree with them. It also indicates the extent of radicalization that has happened in these parts. It is time for the media and fellow Muslims to oppose them in a muscular manner and point out to them the supremacy of the constitution of India. But media suprisingly is silent, the way they are silent about Political Islamist atrocities in Malda, where the riots were used as a cover, to destroy records in the Police station about fake currency suspects.

Bwahahaha..unkil, the constitution is a rulebook for the Government of India. So if the GoI sponsored a conference against idol worship, your limpwristed breastbeating might have had some validity.

A bunch of private individuals can say anything they like - see, there is something called freedom of expression even in our third-world dump - and only highly insecure chickenhearts like you will get their chaddis in a knot over it.
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