confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

garam_kuta wrote:In the past, as we know, while wealth and valor (in wars) were the only criteria for fame and glory that almost all sought after, when did systematic education become a fundamental need for everyone?  

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

And the Koran talks about killing non-believers and history has numerous examples of that and I can quote you chapter and verse where it says that. Now can you do the same about your claims? Chapter and verse.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

And the Koran talks about killing non-believers and history has numerous examples of that and I can quote you chapter and verse where it says that. Now can you do the same about your claims? Chapter and verse.

So, what do you think was the reason behind Sudras illiteracy, till the British arrived?

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

And the Koran talks about killing non-believers and history has numerous examples of that and I can quote you chapter and verse where it says that. Now can you do the same about your claims? Chapter and verse.

So, what do you think was the reason behind Sudras illiteracy, till the British arrived?

Muslims were the ruling class, yet most Muslims were illiterate. What do you think was the reason for that?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

And the Koran talks about killing non-believers and history has numerous examples of that and I can quote you chapter and verse where it says that. Now can you do the same about your claims? Chapter and verse.

So, what do you think was the reason behind Sudras illiteracy, till the British arrived?

Muslims were the ruling class, yet most Muslims were illiterate. What do you think was the reason for that?

We're taking about Vedic education, were Kshatriya's illiterate?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

Big deal!  Now, in Sikular India, everyone can listen to Gayatri mantra, Rg Veda, Yajur Veda, etc., etc., on tapes (or online) while sipping whiskey or eating beef. Abhishek Manu Singhvi can listen to Hanuman chalisa in his "office", Doggy can recite Ramayana while bionking Amrita and ND Tiwari can listen to Sri Sooktam while.......

Hellsangel wrote:Oh and the poor boy in the OP deserves no government help, Comrade? He managed to do in spite of obstacles like reservations and without any government help.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Oh and the poor boy in the OP deserves no government help, Comrade? He managed to do in spite of obstacles like reservations and without any government help.

Did the HRD ministry send 5 letters to that poor boy's school to take action on that poor boy? BTW, Rohit, per media, was enrolled in the general category.

http://deccanchronicle.com/current-affairs/200116/hrd-ministry-sent-hyderabad-varsity-5-letters-to-act-on-rohith-s-union.html

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
And the Koran talks about killing non-believers and history has numerous examples of that and I can quote you chapter and verse where it says that. Now can you do the same about your claims? Chapter and verse.

So, what do you think was the reason behind Sudras illiteracy, till the British arrived?

Muslims were the ruling class, yet most Muslims were illiterate. What do you think was the reason for that?

We're taking about Vedic education, were Kshatriya's illiterate?

Most soldiers were illiterate, Comrade. It was a very simple reason then as is now. Only the wealthy had access to education.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Oh and the poor boy in the OP deserves no government help, Comrade? He managed to do in spite of obstacles like reservations and without any government help.

Did the HRD ministry send 5 letters to that poor boy's school to take action on that poor boy? BTW, Rohit, per media, was enrolled in the general category.

http://deccanchronicle.com/current-affairs/200116/hrd-ministry-sent-hyderabad-varsity-5-letters-to-act-on-rohith-s-union.html

Did the poor boy face multiple disciplinary actions for criminal activities?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Oh and the poor boy in the OP deserves no government help, Comrade? He managed to do in spite of obstacles like reservations and without any government help.

Did the HRD ministry send 5 letters to that poor boy's school to take action on that poor boy? BTW, Rohit, per media, was enrolled in the general category.

http://deccanchronicle.com/current-affairs/200116/hrd-ministry-sent-hyderabad-varsity-5-letters-to-act-on-rohith-s-union.html

Did the poor boy face multiple disciplinary actions for criminal activities?

Oh! Yes, I forgot all about If-he-is-black-then-he-is-a-thug theory.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Oh and the poor boy in the OP deserves no government help, Comrade? He managed to do in spite of obstacles like reservations and without any government help.

Did the HRD ministry send 5 letters to that poor boy's school to take action on that poor boy? BTW, Rohit, per media, was enrolled in the general category.

http://deccanchronicle.com/current-affairs/200116/hrd-ministry-sent-hyderabad-varsity-5-letters-to-act-on-rohith-s-union.html

Did the poor boy face multiple disciplinary actions for criminal activities?

Oh! Yes, I forgot all about If-he-is-black-then-he-is-a-thug theory.

Why Comrade! It seems like you are indeed the Dalit champion. Didn't he actually have criminal cases pending against him?

There have been up to 11 cases of suicide by students, mostly Dalits, in various institutions in Hyderabad between 2007 and 2013. In north India, besides two cases of suicide by Dalit/Adivasi students at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences in Delhi, an additional 14 cases of suicide by Dalit students were reported between January 2007 and April 2011.

It is almost as if we have become immune to these frequent instances of suicide mainly by Dalit students. The student population on campuses of higher education has become increasingly diverse: according to 2008 data, of the total number of students in higher education in the country, 4 per cent were Scheduled Tribes, 13.5 per cent Scheduled Castes (SC), and 35 per cent Other Backward Classes (OBC). Hindus accounted for about 85 per cent of students, followed by Muslims (8 per cent) and Christians (3 per cent). And yet, 23 out of 25 were of Dalits.

What explains such a high incidence of suicide among Dalits? Research indicates that experiences of discrimination, exclusion and humiliation are the predominant reasons. After analysing some cases of suicide, academic Anoop Singh concluded that “there seems to be more than enough evidence to believe that caste discrimination played a significant role in driving these extraordinary individuals into committing suicide”, and that “elite professional institutions are the places where caste prejudice is so firmly entrenched that it has become normal”. A study in 2010 by Professor Mary Thornton and others of five higher educational institutions in India and the United Kingdom observed that “separation of groups on the higher education campus is pervasive and ubiquitous. While some such separation may be for supportive reasons, at other times it is due to overt discrimination on the grounds of race, region, nationality, caste, class, religion, or gender”. In 2013, Samson Ovichegan, in a study on the experience of Dalits in an elite university in India, observed that “this university is yet another arena in which the practice of caste division continues to exist. The university environment reinforces and maintains a divide between Dalit and non-Dalit. Dalit students do, indeed, experience overt and covert discrimination based on caste at this premier university”.

There is constant denial and attempts are made to attribute the suicides to incident-specific situations with disregard for the links with the larger social milieu of exclusion. True, there are incident-specific reasons, but it cannot be a coincidence that out of 25 cases of suicide, 23 were of Dalits. Thus, the first thing for policymakers is to come out of denial mode.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

Hellsangel wrote:Ha ha ha! Apparently he wasn't even a Dalit. 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece

If people need to fraudulently obtain Dalit certificates, it must be a privilege be a Dalit in modern India. No wonder the Dalit champion, our Comrade with his half-baked ideas has gone silent.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Ha ha ha! Apparently he wasn't even a Dalit. 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece

If people need to fraudulently obtain Dalit certificates, it must be a privilege be a Dalit in modern India. No wonder the Dalit champion, our Comrade with his half-baked ideas has gone silent.

You're not only dishonest but also slow & dense, aren't you. This ain't a groundbreaking news. It was announced last week itself that he belongs to vaddera community. This doesn't change the fact a bit rather exposed upper caste folks attitude (you being a prime example) towards a Dalit.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Ha ha ha! Apparently he wasn't even a Dalit. 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece

If people need to fraudulently obtain Dalit certificates, it must be a privilege be a Dalit in modern India. No wonder the Dalit champion, our Comrade with his half-baked ideas has gone silent.

You're not only dishonest but also slow & dense, aren't you. This ain't a groundbreaking news. It was announced last week itself that he belongs to vaddera community. This doesn't change the fact a bit rather exposed upper caste folks attitude (you being a prime example) towards a Dalit.

And yet, Confuzzled Comrade who talks about honesty, you kept tom-tomming Dalit this and Dalit that.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Ha ha ha! Apparently he wasn't even a Dalit. 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece

If people need to fraudulently obtain Dalit certificates, it must be a privilege be a Dalit in modern India. No wonder the Dalit champion, our Comrade with his half-baked ideas has gone silent.

You're not only dishonest but also slow & dense, aren't you. This ain't a groundbreaking news. It was announced last week itself that he belongs to vaddera community. This doesn't change the fact a bit rather exposed upper caste folks attitude (you being a prime example) towards a Dalit.

And yet, Confuzzled Comrade who talks about honesty, you kept tom-tomming Dalit this and Dalit that.

Of course, nobody on this board is as honest as you & Rashmun; everyone on this board knows your whereabouts, your gender, where you live etc. Keep fooling yourself.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Are you the new Dalit champion, Comrade? Kind of funny that for someone who whines about all Muslims being painted with the same brush, you are hypocritically doing exactly the same for something that some people did centuries back.

Wasn't Vedic education confined to the twice-born? and anecdotes about how Acharyas refusing to teach Sudras, are they not true? What about Gayatri Mantra, why weren't sudras taught this for the longest time?

Ever heard the names of Satyakama, Vyasa and Valmiki during the ancient times, who had Sudra connections by birth (either one parent or both) but they all became brahmins and great sages after acquiring Vedic education ---
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_aoi30gM1_ncDBaVDJteUJvRkE&usp=sharing  (article C31)

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:Ha ha ha! Apparently he wasn't even a Dalit. 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece

If people need to fraudulently obtain Dalit certificates, it must be a privilege be a Dalit in modern India. No wonder the Dalit champion, our Comrade with his half-baked ideas has gone silent.

You're not only dishonest but also slow & dense, aren't you. This ain't a groundbreaking news. It was announced last week itself that he belongs to vaddera community. This doesn't change the fact a bit rather exposed upper caste folks attitude (you being a prime example) towards a Dalit.

And yet, Confuzzled Comrade who talks about honesty, you kept tom-tomming Dalit this and Dalit that.

Of course, nobody on this board is as honest as you & Rashmun; everyone on this board knows your whereabouts, your gender, where you live etc. Keep fooling yourself.

A-ha, losing it now, Confuzzled Comrade? No response to my question on why they had to fraudulently obtain a Dalit certificate?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
You're not only dishonest but also slow & dense, aren't you. This ain't a groundbreaking news. It was announced last week itself that he belongs to vaddera community. This doesn't change the fact a bit rather exposed upper caste folks attitude (you being a prime example) towards a Dalit.

And yet, Confuzzled Comrade who talks about honesty, you kept tom-tomming Dalit this and Dalit that.

Of course, nobody on this board is as honest as you & Rashmun; everyone on this board knows your whereabouts, your gender, where you live etc. Keep fooling yourself.

A-ha, losing it now, Confuzzled Comrade? No response to my question on why they had to fraudulently obtain a Dalit certificate?

So, that justifies the treatment meted out to him (known to them as a Dalit)?

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
And yet, Confuzzled Comrade who talks about honesty, you kept tom-tomming Dalit this and Dalit that.

Of course, nobody on this board is as honest as you & Rashmun; everyone on this board knows your whereabouts, your gender, where you live etc. Keep fooling yourself.

A-ha, losing it now, Confuzzled Comrade? No response to my question on why they had to fraudulently obtain a Dalit certificate?

So, that justifies the treatment meted out to him (known to them as a Dalit)?

You still haven't answered my question, Confuzzled Comrade.  Why is a Dalit certificate so valuable in modern India that people have to fraudulently obtain it?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Of course, nobody on this board is as honest as you & Rashmun; everyone on this board knows your whereabouts, your gender, where you live etc. Keep fooling yourself.

A-ha, losing it now, Confuzzled Comrade? No response to my question on why they had to fraudulently obtain a Dalit certificate?

So, that justifies the treatment meted out to him (known to them as a Dalit)?

You still haven't answered my question, Confuzzled Comrade.  Why is a Dalit certificate so valuable in modern India that people have to fraudulently obtain it?

Now, that is Dalit's fault too? India should seriously think about restricting quotas, for example, to one generation, which is plausible given the technological advances but who would do that? Popular notion is Congress won't do it because it plays vote bank politics, would BJP do that?

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
A-ha, losing it now, Confuzzled Comrade? No response to my question on why they had to fraudulently obtain a Dalit certificate?

So, that justifies the treatment meted out to him (known to them as a Dalit)?

You still haven't answered my question, Confuzzled Comrade.  Why is a Dalit certificate so valuable in modern India that people have to fraudulently obtain it?

Now, that is Dalit's fault too? India should seriously think about restricting quotas, for example, to one generation, which is plausible given the technological advances but who would do that? Popular notion is Congress won't do it because it plays vote bank politics, would BJP do that?

You still haven't answered the question, Comrade. What makes it so valuable?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
So, that justifies the treatment meted out to him (known to them as a Dalit)?

You still haven't answered my question, Confuzzled Comrade.  Why is a Dalit certificate so valuable in modern India that people have to fraudulently obtain it?

Now, that is Dalit's fault too? India should seriously think about restricting quotas, for example, to one generation, which is plausible given the technological advances but who would do that? Popular notion is Congress won't do it because it plays vote bank politics, would BJP do that?

You still haven't answered the question, Comrade. What makes it so valuable?

You tell me, you seem to be an expert in that area. I don't think very many obtain them fraudulently, as it is not that easy to get one.

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
You still haven't answered my question, Confuzzled Comrade.  Why is a Dalit certificate so valuable in modern India that people have to fraudulently obtain it?

Now, that is Dalit's fault too? India should seriously think about restricting quotas, for example, to one generation, which is plausible given the technological advances but who would do that? Popular notion is Congress won't do it because it plays vote bank politics, would BJP do that?

You still haven't answered the question, Comrade. What makes it so valuable?

You tell me, you seem to be an expert in that area. I don't think very many obtain them fraudulently, as it is not that easy to get one.

I see. Playing innocent now, Confuzzled Comrade. Is it because you can't admit the obvious? Or you are just too confuzzled?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Now, that is Dalit's fault too? India should seriously think about restricting quotas, for example, to one generation, which is plausible given the technological advances but who would do that? Popular notion is Congress won't do it because it plays vote bank politics, would BJP do that?

You still haven't answered the question, Comrade. What makes it so valuable?

You tell me, you seem to be an expert in that area. I don't think very many obtain them fraudulently, as it is not that easy to get one.

I see. Playing innocent now, Confuzzled Comrade. Is it because you can't admit the obvious? Or you are just too confuzzled?

Pot calling the kettle black, did you ever (let alone this discussion) answer any question honestly?

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
You still haven't answered the question, Comrade. What makes it so valuable?

You tell me, you seem to be an expert in that area. I don't think very many obtain them fraudulently, as it is not that easy to get one.

I see. Playing innocent now, Confuzzled Comrade. Is it because you can't admit the obvious? Or you are just too confuzzled?

Pot calling the kettle black, did you ever (let alone this discussion) answer any question honestly?

Let me rephrase the question in a way you can understand, Confuzzled Comrade. If being a Dalit is such a burden as you claim, why would anyone pretend to be one?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
You tell me, you seem to be an expert in that area. I don't think very many obtain them fraudulently, as it is not that easy to get one.

I see. Playing innocent now, Confuzzled Comrade. Is it because you can't admit the obvious? Or you are just too confuzzled?

Pot calling the kettle black, did you ever (let alone this discussion) answer any question honestly?

Let me rephrase the question in a way you can understand, Confuzzled Comrade. If being a Dalit is such a burden as you claim, why would anyone pretend to be one?

I doubt If I can get an honest answer from you. Did u pretend to be one?

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
I see. Playing innocent now, Confuzzled Comrade. Is it because you can't admit the obvious? Or you are just too confuzzled?

Pot calling the kettle black, did you ever (let alone this discussion) answer any question honestly?

Let me rephrase the question in a way you can understand, Confuzzled Comrade. If being a Dalit is such a burden as you claim, why would anyone pretend to be one?

I doubt If I can get an honest answer from you. Did u pretend to be one?

Ha ha, Comrade! Since you are so honest, you can honestly answer me. This is about the guy who committed suicide. You are now championing Dalit rights based on his suicide. Now it has been established he wasn't even one. So why would his family pretend he was one and now deny it?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Pot calling the kettle black, did you ever (let alone this discussion) answer any question honestly?

Let me rephrase the question in a way you can understand, Confuzzled Comrade. If being a Dalit is such a burden as you claim, why would anyone pretend to be one?

I doubt If I can get an honest answer from you. Did u pretend to be one?

Ha ha, Comrade! Since you are so honest, you can honestly answer me. This is about the guy who committed suicide. You are now championing Dalit rights based on his suicide. Now it has been established he wasn't even one. So why would his family pretend he was one and now deny it?

and that is THE proof that Dalit's are not facing discrimination? Do you know what vaddera community is and how are they treated in Andhra? I assume you have no clue.

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Was he discriminated in his school and got kicked out for being born into a Brahmin family whose ancestors deprived all non-brahmins of basic education for centuries?

But aren't you the one stumping for Muslim quota although they were the favored and privileged ones for centuries and killed and raped hindu women - including the brahmin women ?

In the fifth year of marriage, Mani found out Radhika’s secret.

“Somebody in our Vaddera colony in Prashanth Nagar leaked the secret to him that Radhika is an adopted Mala girl. That’s when he started beating her very badly,” Anjani says. Confirming this, Radhika says, “Mani was always abusive. But after he discovered my caste, he became even more violent. He would beat me almost every day and curse his luck for being cheated into marrying an untouchable.”

Anjani Devi claims, she “rescued” her daughter and grandchildren from Mani Kumar. “They left Mani and I welcomed them back into my house in 1990,” she says.

Radhika was around 12 or 13 when she discovered to her shock that she was an adopted child and a Mala. “Anjani’s mother, who was still alive then, had badly beaten Radhika and abused her. She was crying near my house. When I asked, she said her grandmother had called her a ‘Mala b****’ for not doing housework and cursed Anjani for bringing her into the house,” says Uppalapaty Danamma, 67.

Several other neighbours in the Vaddera colony of Prashanth Nagar said the general perception was that Radhika was a servant girl. One Vaddera resident sounded annoyed with Anjani and told HT that by cheating Mani Kumar and marrying him to Radhika, a Dalit, Anjani had cheated the entire Vaddera community.

Hellsangel wrote:I see you are pointing  out how badly the vadderas are treating the malas. Where are the anecdotes about how the vadderas are treated, Comrade?