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Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
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Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
if gautamiputra did not demolish places of worship of other communities than his own , then he was better than aurangzeb . if he did not enforce a jizya like tax on other communities , then he was better than aurangzeb .
aurangzeb killed another king ( sambhaji , son of shivaji ) by first flaying him alive , then removing his tongue and gouging out his eyes and then cutting his body into little pieces and feeding it to dogs . if gautamiputra did not do something as brutal as that , then he was better than aurangzeb .
but are you coming down from your secular throne to accept aurangzeb as bad ?
aurangzeb killed another king ( sambhaji , son of shivaji ) by first flaying him alive , then removing his tongue and gouging out his eyes and then cutting his body into little pieces and feeding it to dogs . if gautamiputra did not do something as brutal as that , then he was better than aurangzeb .
but are you coming down from your secular throne to accept aurangzeb as bad ?
ashdoc- Posts : 2256
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
Satakarni levied tax only on non-brahmins and he killed several kings, one of them was Nahapana.ashdoc wrote:if gautamiputra did not demolish places of worship of other communities than his own , then he was better than aurangzeb . if he did not enforce a jizya like tax on other communities , then he was better than aurangzeb .
aurangzeb killed another king ( sambhaji , son of shivaji ) by first flaying him alive , then removing his tongue and gouging out his eyes and then cutting his body into little pieces and feeding it to dogs . if gautamiputra did not do something as brutal as that , then he was better than aurangzeb .
but are you coming down from your secular throne to accept aurangzeb as bad ?
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
All of the above don't change the fact that he did prohibit inter-caste marriages.Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
This one line answer does not make him equal to aurangzeb.confuzzled dude wrote:Satakarni levied tax only on non-brahmins and he killed several kings, one of them was Nahapana.ashdoc wrote:if gautamiputra did not demolish places of worship of other communities than his own , then he was better than aurangzeb . if he did not enforce a jizya like tax on other communities , then he was better than aurangzeb .
aurangzeb killed another king ( sambhaji , son of shivaji ) by first flaying him alive , then removing his tongue and gouging out his eyes and then cutting his body into little pieces and feeding it to dogs . if gautamiputra did not do something as brutal as that , then he was better than aurangzeb .
but are you coming down from your secular throne to accept aurangzeb as bad ?
ashdoc- Posts : 2256
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
That does not make him equal to demolisher of temples.confuzzled dude wrote:All of the above don't change the fact that he did prohibit inter-caste marriages.Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.
ashdoc- Posts : 2256
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
He didn't live in Sikular India. If he permitted inter-caste marriages in his era, he would have been very unpopular.confuzzled dude wrote:All of the above don't change the fact that he did prohibit inter-caste marriages.Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
On the other hand, no one has prohibited this yet. They ought to:
https://books.google.com/books?id=BLLmbgt8wNgC&lpg=PA948&ots=u1Q-XF5KxV&dq=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&pg=PA948#v=onepage&q=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=BLLmbgt8wNgC&lpg=PA948&ots=u1Q-XF5KxV&dq=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&pg=PA948#v=onepage&q=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&f=false
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
Hellsangel wrote:On the other hand, no one has prohibited this yet. They ought to:
https://books.google.com/books?id=BLLmbgt8wNgC&lpg=PA948&ots=u1Q-XF5KxV&dq=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&pg=PA948#v=onepage&q=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&f=false
I wonder if this practice came into hindu culture bcz of iSlam and its influence.
1. are there evidence of such marriages in mahabharata or Ramayana. If there had been then it should hv shown up somewhere in these magaepics.
2. I noticed this is common among Arabs and more importantly persians.
Makes me wonder if this moghulistani culture infoltrated the hindu culture as well.
Another theory: Hindus - fearing the kidnapping/raping of their daughters by mUghalistanis - married them off to the most readily available grooms - the uncles and cousins.
Marathadi-Saamiyaar- Posts : 17675
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man / woman)?confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
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King Edward VIIISeva Lamberdar wrote:Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man / woman)?confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
Hellsangel wrote:King Edward VIIISeva Lamberdar wrote:Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man / woman)?confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
and what became of him?
Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
What was your original question, Sevaji? Anyway look up Morgantic marriage in Wikipedia for more historic examples.Seva Lamberdar wrote:Hellsangel wrote:King Edward VIIISeva Lamberdar wrote:Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man / woman)?confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
and what became of him?
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
CD: Your credibility is going down the tube. Comparing a Satavahana with Aurangazeb is disgusting. Satavahanas were quite generous in restoring Buddhist religious structures. Aurangazeb was the guru of the guys who destroyed Bamiyan, Palmyra, etc. Disgusting!
When are your friends Soonya, Pappu and Jagan going to jail?
When are your friends Soonya, Pappu and Jagan going to jail?
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
Re: Gautamiputra Satakarni & inter-caste marriages
Hellsangel wrote:What was your original question, Sevaji? Anyway look up Morgantic marriage in Wikipedia for more historic examples.Seva Lamberdar wrote:Hellsangel wrote:King Edward VIIISeva Lamberdar wrote:Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man / woman)?confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
and what became of him?
The comment was with respect to the discouragement of marriage between man and woman of dissimilar socio-economic (inter-caste) status everywhere.
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