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Post by Hellsangel Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:29 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/11/middleeast/isis-perspective/index.html
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Post by goodcitizn Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:00 pm

I am half-way through reading "The kill list" by Frederick Forsyth where he mentions the Arab Spring climate. You should read it. Very interesting.

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Post by Hellsangel Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:01 pm

I gave up Forsyth after The Fist of G_d.
Review on Amazon

This subpar war-on-terror thriller from Diamond Dagger Award–winner Forsyth, with its unknowable outcome, offers less suspense than his Edgar-winning debut, The Day of the Jackal, where the ending is never in doubt. A Muslim extremist, known only as the Preacher, is spreading the message of violent jihad via English-language videos, and his acolytes have begun targeting public officials in the U.S. and the U.K. The job of stopping him falls to Kit Carson, an ex-Marine now part of a super-secret agency in Virginia called Technical Operations Support Activity. Carson, who's known as the Tracker, assembles an assortment of allies straight out of a Mission Impossible script, including a reclusive teenager who's a master hacker employed to trace the Preacher. Some readers will wonder why Forsyth bothered to give Carson a personal incentive to complete the mission. Others will find a lack of memorable characters an obstacle to genuine engagement. Agent: Ed Victor, Ed Victor Literary Agency. (Aug.)
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Post by goodcitizn Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:07 pm

Hellsangel wrote:I gave up Forsyth after The Fist of G_d.
If you liked "The day of the jackal", you should try this. If not, never mind.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:00 pm

Peace can be brought to mideast by undoing the borders drawn by European colonial rulers, and draw new rational boundaries.

Kurd living lands in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran should brought together and create a Kurdish Country.

Create a Sunni country from lands from Iraq and Syria. You may need to create 2 Shiya countries from lands in Syria and Iraq. I have to look carefully at the map to see 1 or 2 Shiya countries.

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Post by Kris Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:09 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:Peace can be brought to mideast by undoing the borders drawn by European colonial rulers, and draw new rational boundaries.

Kurd living lands in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran should brought together and create a Kurdish Country.

Create a Sunni country from lands from Iraq and Syria. You may need to create 2 Shiya countries from lands in Syria and Iraq. I have to look carefully at the map to see 1 or 2 Shiya countries.
>>> Peace can happen in the middle east only if there is introspection and willingness to change. Neither is going to happen anytime soon. The rest of the world can butt out which may help to some degree, but that would entail sacrificing Israel and of course, the West disentangling itself from oil politics. That is not going to happen anytime soon either. The re-drawing of boundaries may be logical in the context of other societies which have made the transition away from a feudalistic mindset. Unfortunately that is not the case with the middle east.  This is a problem that is not going to be solved in this generation or the next.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:27 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:Peace can be brought to mideast by undoing the borders drawn by European colonial rulers, and draw new rational boundaries.

Kurd living lands in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran should brought together and create a Kurdish Country.

Create a Sunni country from lands from Iraq and Syria. You may need to create 2 Shiya countries from lands in Syria and Iraq. I have to look carefully at the map to see 1 or 2 Shiya countries.

Do you have the Alladin's lamp ?

Try to find it.

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