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Post by silvermani Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:04 pm

How eight years of Barack Obama created Donald Trump Obamaforehead-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8
This man's failures encouraged the rise of Trumpism CREDIT: PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS/AP PHOTO


This article was originally published on February 13, 2016. It has been republished in light of the course of the US election. 


I had seen Obama at the primaries, and at the Democrat Convention. I had waited for him to speak intelligently and practically about the state of America and how he would put it right, but I waited in vain. The cliché at the time, which became more relevant later, was about how he campaigned in poetry but would govern in prose. Some prose can be magnificent: but not his. His stump oratory – especially his convention speech, delivered from a preposterous mock-Grecian stage set in Denver – was vacuous. He is clever and has a way with words: but his words contained little. 

He entranced audiences, first in his own party – which is why he beat Hillary Clinton, arrogant and boring then as now, for the nomination – and then in the wider electorate. As Lehmann’s sank, political leaders, including potential presidents, met to discuss what to do. Mr Obama said nothing: and the liberal media praised him for his silence, suggesting it showed his wisdom by reserving judgment on so complex a matter. Perhaps it did. Or perhaps it showed he didn’t have a clue. 

To glimpse how little Mr Obama has done for his own constituency – the poor blacks – it is worth reading an instructive article in the latest New Yorker. It is about evictions in Milwaukee, a city that is 40 per cent black. An industry exists to service evictions – courts, lawyers, removal men, bailiffs – and operates full-time, dealing with masses who cannot pay their rent, or their mortgages. Mr Obama was elected promising to end such misery, but he hasn’t, and he never would. 

Racial tensions, which a black president was supposed to heal, seem worse than ever – remember Ferguson – and Mr Obama’s interventions have often been clumsy and grandstanding. . Mr Obama’s international legacy is the repulsive sight of Vladimir Putin, whom he underestimated, ruling the roost, the barbarians of Isil (for dealing with whom he had no strategy) and a Europe mired in introspection. Barack Obama created neither the poverty, nor the suspicion and loathing with which America was regarded in the world after George W Bush. However, he promised to cure the first, and has been found wanting; and he has used the second as an excuse to do nothing except withdraw.

Since George H.W. Bush left office in 1993 America has been ruled by a spin-obsessed sex addict, a dangerous halfwit and a clever incompetent. They all bore the imprimatur of their respective party machines. For much of America, Barack Obama is the last straw. He is the creator of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.
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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:06 pm

Here we go; It's Obama's fault again.

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Post by silvermani Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:08 pm

Typical kneejerk reaction from an Obummer cult member for whom his supreme Lord can do no wrong. And in typical hypocritical fasion, whenever valid criticism of Obummer came up, his followers laid the blame on Bush and pulled out the racism card.
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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:19 pm

silvermani wrote:Typical kneejerk reaction from an Obummer cult member for whom his supreme Lord can do no wrong. And in typical hypocritical fasion, whenever valid criticism of Obummer came up, his followers laid the blame on Bush and pulled out the racism card.
Of course, blaming Obama for everything under the sun isn't knee-jerk rather is taking the high road. Hahaha, Republicans blamed Obama for Iraq debacle though SofA was signed by Bush and Bengazi on Hillary though funding was cut by the republican congress. Go figure.

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Post by garam_kuta Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:24 pm

nobody likes their 'entitlements/privileges' taken away...at 6:45

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Post by Idéfix Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:37 pm

Obama forced OP and other trumptards to support Trump. OP is a better man who doesn't approve of Trump and his bad actions, but Obama left him no choice. Party of personal responsibility!
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Post by Idéfix Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:39 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
silvermani wrote:Typical kneejerk reaction from an Obummer cult member for whom his supreme Lord can do no wrong. And in typical hypocritical fasion, whenever valid criticism of Obummer came up, his followers laid the blame on Bush and pulled out the racism card.
Of course, blaming Obama for everything under the sun isn't knee-jerk rather is taking the high road. Hahaha, Republicans blamed Obama for Iraq debacle though SofA was signed by Bush and Bengazi on Hillary though funding was cut by the republican congress. Go figure.


They even blamed him for 9/11 and the botched response to Katrina. Incidentally Katrina is the name of a Trump spokesperson who blamed Obama for the death if a soldier in the Iraq war.
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Post by silvermani Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:47 pm

Look smugtards, you can pretend that all was well with Obummer's Presidency but the fact that President Trump won the race proves otherwise. You can either do some honest introspection or continue to be bitter and spew venomous bile at those who don't buy in to your brand of (non critical) thinking.
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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:05 pm

silvermani wrote:Look smugtards, you can pretend that all was well with Obummer's Presidency but the fact that President Trump won the race proves otherwise. You can either do some honest introspection or continue to be bitter and spew venomous bile at those who don't buy in to your brand of (non critical) thinking.
*ahem* what part of that article do you think contained an element of critical thinking, besides putrid hate, would you care to elucidate?

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Post by silvermani Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:10 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
silvermani wrote:Look smugtards, you can pretend that all was well with Obummer's Presidency but the fact that President Trump won the race proves otherwise. You can either do some honest introspection or continue to be bitter and spew venomous bile at those who don't buy in to your brand of (non critical) thinking.
*ahem* what part of that article do you think contained an element of critical thinking, besides putrid hate, would you care to elucidate?
Yup. Everything is so great! Lord Obummer is blameless.
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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:15 pm

silvermani wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
silvermani wrote:Look smugtards, you can pretend that all was well with Obummer's Presidency but the fact that President Trump won the race proves otherwise. You can either do some honest introspection or continue to be bitter and spew venomous bile at those who don't buy in to your brand of (non critical) thinking.
*ahem* what part of that article do you think contained an element of critical thinking, besides putrid hate, would you care to elucidate?
Yup. Everything is so great! Lord Obummer is blameless.
What was the logical argument or hint of a valid argument in that piece you posted, squalor?

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Post by Idéfix Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:22 pm

Trump winning doesn't prove anything about Obama. Millions more voted for Clinton than for Trump.

There is only one group ultimately responsible for Trump bring in the White House: people who voted for him. You don't get to blame Obama for you supporting a bad human being.
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Post by Hellsangel Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:56 am

An interesting article in the BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37952249
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Post by southindian Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:32 am

silvermani wrote:How eight years of Barack Obama created Donald Trump Obamaforehead-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8
This man's failures encouraged the rise of Trumpism CREDIT: PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS/AP PHOTO


This article was originally published on February 13, 2016. It has been republished in light of the course of the US election. 


I had seen Obama at the primaries, and at the Democrat Convention. I had waited for him to speak intelligently and practically about the state of America and how he would put it right, but I waited in vain. The cliché at the time, which became more relevant later, was about how he campaigned in poetry but would govern in prose. Some prose can be magnificent: but not his. His stump oratory – especially his convention speech, delivered from a preposterous mock-Grecian stage set in Denver – was vacuous. He is clever and has a way with words: but his words contained little. 

He entranced audiences, first in his own party – which is why he beat Hillary Clinton, arrogant and boring then as now, for the nomination – and then in the wider electorate. As Lehmann’s sank, political leaders, including potential presidents, met to discuss what to do. Mr Obama said nothing: and the liberal media praised him for his silence, suggesting it showed his wisdom by reserving judgment on so complex a matter. Perhaps it did. Or perhaps it showed he didn’t have a clue. 

To glimpse how little Mr Obama has done for his own constituency – the poor blacks – it is worth reading an instructive article in the latest New Yorker. It is about evictions in Milwaukee, a city that is 40 per cent black. An industry exists to service evictions – courts, lawyers, removal men, bailiffs – and operates full-time, dealing with masses who cannot pay their rent, or their mortgages. Mr Obama was elected promising to end such misery, but he hasn’t, and he never would. 

Racial tensions, which a black president was supposed to heal, seem worse than ever – remember Ferguson – and Mr Obama’s interventions have often been clumsy and grandstanding. . Mr Obama’s international legacy is the repulsive sight of Vladimir Putin, whom he underestimated, ruling the roost, the barbarians of Isil (for dealing with whom he had no strategy) and a Europe mired in introspection. Barack Obama created neither the poverty, nor the suspicion and loathing with which America was regarded in the world after George W Bush. However, he promised to cure the first, and has been found wanting; and he has used the second as an excuse to do nothing except withdraw.

Since George H.W. Bush left office in 1993 America has been ruled by a spin-obsessed sex addict, a dangerous halfwit and a clever incompetent. They all bore the imprimatur of their respective party machines. For much of America, Barack Obama is the last straw. He is the creator of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.
Awww... This is epic Bullshit. Smile

I'm sure when you shit in your pants, you always blame your parents, spouse, neighbour, friend, office-worker, God, government... You blame everyone except yourself. What an idiot. Moron!

The fucking bastard who stuck to a lie for 8 years about Obama's citizenship, blames Obama for all problems. Smile Not right wingers, not old white men, not idiots who could not see Trump's lies and his true identity. Amazing!

Jackass!
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