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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:47 pm

Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:the original slogan
is not in hindi, but in kannada. If kannadigas wish to promote
hindi
Now, that is what is called leaping to a conclusion. Hope that helps.

do you agree that the original slogan is in Kannada, and not hindi?

what do you think it takes to pay a struggling sign painter to write a
sign in kannada? do you think that the existence of a slogan in kannada
implies that a majority of kannadigas agree with it?
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Post by Guest Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:56 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:the original slogan
is not in hindi, but in kannada. If kannadigas wish to promote
hindi
Now, that is what is called leaping to a conclusion. Hope that helps.

do you agree that the original slogan is in Kannada, and not hindi?

what do you think it takes to pay a struggling sign painter to write a
sign in kannada? do you think that the existence of a slogan in kannada
implies that a majority of kannadigas agree with it?

at least one should investigate whether this was done by kannadigas who wish to promote hindi. On another note, please share your thoughts on the following:

Tamil vs Kannada

For most Bangaloreans this issue is, as they say, as old as the hills. Kannadigas and Tamilians have been fighting in public and have been friends in private for many a decade in 'nammooru'. I've had many friends, but for some quirky reasons, all my close friends in Bangalore have been Tamilians.

During the Cauvery riots in the early 90s we didn't have any issues. Yet, this is one struggle that I expect will go on for a while, because there appears to be historical reasons behind the divide. Janaki Nair's excellent piece Battles for Bangalore: Reterritorialising the City sums it up rather neatly:

"More striking were the linguistic and cultural distinctions between the zones, since the Cantonment had attracted a large number of camp followers from Tamil speaking areas of the neighbouring Madras Presidency. Consequently, the Kannada language's restricted presence in the city was only altered in two decades of somewhat spectacular demographic growth, the decade of 1941-1951 when the population grew by 100 per cent, and the decade of 1971-81 when the city grew by 76 per cent. The city drew more migrants from districts within the state after the 1950s, significantly altering the linguistic map of the city"

So Tamilians can claim to have as much a right on Bangalore as Kannadigas. It is true though, that many Tamilians prefer to speak in their native tongue, even while talking to Kannadigas.

Try asking for directions in Frazer town. But equally, Kannadigas lose no opportunity in clamouring for the city to 'swept clean of Tamils'.

I actually think the whole Tamil vs Kannada issue is not such a big deal. Some people (not all of them politicians) tend to manipulate the residents of Bangalore to suit their own purposes.

English vs Hindi

If there is one issue that unites all Bangaloreans, it is the sight of someone from the cow belt, clamouring for directions in Hindi, and expecting to be answered back in their tongue.

I was once tempted into asking a couple of slightly rude teenagers on a bike to speak in English. These days, Hindi is spoken pretty much everywhere in Bangalore. The prevailing feeling here has been more elegantly paraphrased before, but let me interpret it rather plainly: 'just because Hindi is the national language, it doesn't give anyone the right to expect a South Indian or Bengali to speak Hindi in Bangalore.'


http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/hrvenkatesh/161/1029/kannada-vs-tamil-english-vs-hindi.html

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i will just add one comment to the article: a north indian can legitimately expect to communicate with the common man in bangalore in hindi/hindustani because of the existence of the southern indian language Dakhini. Indeed the common man in Bangalore invariably is able to communicate in hindi/hindustani.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:27 am

Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha

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Post by charvaka Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:59 am

Richard Hed wrote:Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha
What, you no spiki Dakhini? You not southindian Dakhinian then.
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Post by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:16 am

Maria S wrote:In Tamil (translated) it's.."If you think, speak and write in Hindi- it will make you happy"
in thamizh, the sign says,

"speak in hindi. (that) will bring (you) happiness. think, speak, and write in rajabhasha hindi."

there is no "if."

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Post by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:46 am

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Maria S wrote:In Tamil (translated) it's.."If you think, speak and write in Hindi- it will make you happy"
in thamizh, the sign says,

"speak in hindi. (that) will bring (you) happiness. think, speak, and write in rajabhasha hindi."

there is no "if."
amendment:

"speak in hindi. (that) will give (you) happiness. think, speak, and write in rajabhasha hindi."

there is still no "if."

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Post by Kris Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:52 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:Thanks, Charvaka

Here a sign at Chernnai Airport in Indian occupied Tamil Nadu

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>>>>Looks kinda lame. We've got one of two problems here. Either someone is making this up or the agency that dreamed this up has too much time on its hands. I suspect it is the former. No entity, not even a gov't agency, can be so banal in its "dreams".

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:22 am

I am 100% certain it is a real photo. You do not undewrstand the arogance of Hindi fanatics,

It is just one step ahead of the Kannada sign. That was published in a newspaper.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:25 am

Richard Hed wrote:Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:35 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> Tamil Tribune claims that gangster Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero

Show me the link where it says " Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero
"

Year 2000. A popular Kannada movie star, Rajkumar,
and two others were kidnapped in Tamil Nadu by a Tamil sandalwood
smuggler, newly turned Tamil nationalist ("Sandalwood" Veerappan) and
two established Tamil nationalist groups of Tamil Nadu (TNLA and TNRT)
and taken to a jungle hideout bordering Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. All
their demands for the release of Rajkumar were political or humanitarian
in nature. There were no selfish personal demands. Their demands
included compensation for Karnataka Tamils harmed during the 1991
violence and punishment of those engaged in criminal acts at that time.
(NOTE: Not a single individual was punished. Compensation is yet to be
paid in spite of a court order.)

http://www.tamiltribune.com/00/1202.html

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:36 am

Rashmun wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:>> Tamil Tribune claims that gangster Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero

Show me the link where it says " Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero
"

Year 2000. A popular Kannada movie star, Rajkumar,
and two others were kidnapped in Tamil Nadu by a Tamil sandalwood
smuggler, newly turned Tamil nationalist ("Sandalwood" Veerappan) and
two established Tamil nationalist groups of Tamil Nadu (TNLA and TNRT)
and taken to a jungle hideout bordering Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. All
their demands for the release of Rajkumar were political or humanitarian
in nature. There were no selfish personal demands. Their demands
included compensation for Karnataka Tamils harmed during the 1991
violence and punishment of those engaged in criminal acts at that time.
(NOTE: Not a single individual was punished. Compensation is yet to be
paid in spite of a court order.)

http://www.tamiltribune.com/00/1202.html

-----
Veerappan's initiation into Tamils' cause was during the 1991 anti-Tamil carnage in
Karnataka. He was a witness to the Kannada chauvinist outrage on the
Tamils, and was therefore drawn into the fray to defend the Tamils in the border district
of Chamarajanagar. It had left a deep scar in his mind and had in fact
was troubling him within. So he chose to avenge for the violent sufferings and
humiliations which the Karnataka Tamils were subjected to in 1991.

The irony is that Veerappan is a Karnataka Tamil. He was born at
Gopinaththam that falls within 10 kilometers west of river Pâlâru, a tributory of
Cauvery, that marks the border delineating Karnataka and Tamilnadu. Gopinaththam is
right inside Karnataka after the Tamil-speaking Kollegal was annexed to it during States'
reorganisation. Whereas, the thespian Rajkumar's father was from
Singânallur which next to the Coimbatore Town on the Coimbatore-Sulur Road. He was a
Telugu speaking Idiga. His mother was Lakshmiamma, a Tamil. More so, the term
Idiga
was a Telugu derivative of the name Eezhavar, which means those who were originally
from Eelam or the island of Sri Lanka. Such a person could later become
the icon of Kannada chauvinism in Karnataka!

The gloom of the Dravidian dupe fades out while the Tamil seeks the right of
self-determination. Karnataka Tamils stand out as the beacon light.

The social
environment that drove Veerappan into the forests as a sandalwood smuggler or poacher had
lit in him the fiery fire of Tamil nationalism, as he had witnessed the State sponsored
anti-Tamil violence for ethnic cleansing.

So, Veerappan has don a new
role. The myth of Aryan-Dravidian dichotomy
is going to suffer its fatal
beatings in the process; and, sure, the Tamil will stand up to seize the
skies.

The Tamilnadu Tamils, who are stuck up in the marshes of nasty
caste
politics thrust on them by the Vadugar-Dravidian bluffs are going to be
shaken and roused
finally by Karanataka Tamils. There is no escape from it! Karnataka
Tamils will catalyse the Tamil awakening. It seems to be their
history's destiny. Veerappan has identified the
enemy. So, he blows the conch for the cause of Tamils' liberation, and
the restorations of their land and glory.


http://tamilnation.co/diaspora/karnataka.htm

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:39 am

Where does Tamil Tribune say ""Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero"? I don't see it in the excerpt Rashmun has posted above. Hello. Hello. Post a link to that post.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:42 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:Where does Tamil Tribune say ""Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero"? I don't see it in the excerpt Rashmun has posted above. Hello. Hello. Post a link to that post.

The words 'Tamil' and 'nationalist' are explicitly mentioned with respect to Veerappan while the term 'hero' is implied by what is said about him by the worthless rag Tamil Tribune.

Year 2000. A popular Kannada movie star, Rajkumar,
and two others were kidnapped in Tamil Nadu by a Tamil sandalwood
smuggler, newly turned Tamil nationalist ("Sandalwood" Veerappan) and
two established Tamil nationalist groups of Tamil Nadu (TNLA and TNRT)
and taken to a jungle hideout bordering Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. All
their demands for the release of Rajkumar were political or humanitarian
in nature. There were no selfish personal demands.
Their demands
included compensation for Karnataka Tamils harmed during the 1991
violence and punishment of those engaged in criminal acts at that time.
(NOTE: Not a single individual was punished. Compensation is yet to be
paid in spite of a court order.)

http://www.tamiltribune.com/00/1202.html

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:44 am

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:>> Tamil Tribune claims that gangster Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero

Show me the link where it says " Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero
"

Year 2000. A popular Kannada movie star, Rajkumar,
and two others were kidnapped in Tamil Nadu by a Tamil sandalwood
smuggler, newly turned Tamil nationalist ("Sandalwood" Veerappan) and
two established Tamil nationalist groups of Tamil Nadu (TNLA and TNRT)
and taken to a jungle hideout bordering Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. All
their demands for the release of Rajkumar were political or humanitarian
in nature. There were no selfish personal demands. Their demands
included compensation for Karnataka Tamils harmed during the 1991
violence and punishment of those engaged in criminal acts at that time.
(NOTE: Not a single individual was punished. Compensation is yet to be
paid in spite of a court order.)

http://www.tamiltribune.com/00/1202.html

-----
Veerappan's initiation into Tamils' cause was during the 1991 anti-Tamil carnage in
Karnataka. He was a witness to the Kannada chauvinist outrage on the
Tamils, and was therefore drawn into the fray to defend the Tamils in the border district
of Chamarajanagar. It had left a deep scar in his mind and had in fact
was troubling him within. So he chose to avenge for the violent sufferings and
humiliations which the Karnataka Tamils were subjected to in 1991.

The irony is that Veerappan is a Karnataka Tamil. He was born at
Gopinaththam that falls within 10 kilometers west of river Pâlâru, a tributory of
Cauvery, that marks the border delineating Karnataka and Tamilnadu. Gopinaththam is
right inside Karnataka after the Tamil-speaking Kollegal was annexed to it during States'
reorganisation. Whereas, the thespian Rajkumar's father was from
Singânallur which next to the Coimbatore Town on the Coimbatore-Sulur Road. He was a
Telugu speaking Idiga. His mother was Lakshmiamma, a Tamil. More so, the term
Idiga
was a Telugu derivative of the name Eezhavar, which means those who were originally
from Eelam or the island of Sri Lanka. Such a person could later become
the icon of Kannada chauvinism in Karnataka!

The gloom of the Dravidian dupe fades out while the Tamil seeks the right of
self-determination. Karnataka Tamils stand out as the beacon light.

The social
environment that drove Veerappan into the forests as a sandalwood smuggler or poacher had
lit in him the fiery fire of Tamil nationalism, as he had witnessed the State sponsored
anti-Tamil violence for ethnic cleansing.

So, Veerappan has don a new
role. The myth of Aryan-Dravidian dichotomy
is going to suffer its fatal
beatings in the process; and, sure, the Tamil will stand up to seize the
skies.

The Tamilnadu Tamils, who are stuck up in the marshes of nasty
caste
politics thrust on them by the Vadugar-Dravidian bluffs are going to be
shaken and roused
finally by Karanataka Tamils. There is no escape from it! Karnataka
Tamils will catalyse the Tamil awakening. It seems to be their
history's destiny. Veerappan has identified the
enemy. So, he blows the conch for the cause of Tamils' liberation, and
the restorations of their land and glory.


http://tamilnation.co/diaspora/karnataka.htm

KV, please share your thoughts on the 'Kannada chauvinist outrage' that the tamilnation site talks about.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:48 am

>> The words 'Tamil' and 'nationalist' are explicitly mentioned with respect to Veerappan while the term 'hero' is implied by what is said about him by the worthless rag Tamil Tribune.

Tamil Tribune said Veerappan was a Tamil Nationalist. That is true. You posted something entirely different ( great tamil nationalist hero). That is a lie. Apologize to people here that you made a mistake or we have to conclude you are liar.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:52 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> The words 'Tamil' and 'nationalist' are explicitly mentioned with respect to Veerappan while the term 'hero' is implied by what is said about him by the worthless rag Tamil Tribune.

Tamil Tribune said Veerappan was a Tamil Nationalist. That is true. You posted something entirely different ( great tamil nationalist hero). That is a lie. Apologize to people here that you made a mistake or we have to conclude you are liar.

the word 'hero' is implied by what tamil tribune says about him--that his demands were humanitarian and not selfish. Apologize to the Tamilians here for posting repeatedly from a worthless rag which eulogizes gangster Veerappan. It is an insult to all Tamils for a gangster/thief/smuggler/poacher to be hailed as a Tamil nationalist.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:52 am

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:>> Tamil Tribune claims that gangster Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero

Show me the link where it says " Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero
"

Year 2000. A popular Kannada movie star, Rajkumar,
and two others were kidnapped in Tamil Nadu by a Tamil sandalwood
smuggler, newly turned Tamil nationalist ("Sandalwood" Veerappan) and
two established Tamil nationalist groups of Tamil Nadu (TNLA and TNRT)
and taken to a jungle hideout bordering Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. All
their demands for the release of Rajkumar were political or humanitarian
in nature. There were no selfish personal demands. Their demands
included compensation for Karnataka Tamils harmed during the 1991
violence and punishment of those engaged in criminal acts at that time.
(NOTE: Not a single individual was punished. Compensation is yet to be
paid in spite of a court order.)

http://www.tamiltribune.com/00/1202.html

-----
Veerappan's initiation into Tamils' cause was during the 1991 anti-Tamil carnage in
Karnataka. He was a witness to the Kannada chauvinist outrage on the
Tamils, and was therefore drawn into the fray to defend the Tamils in the border district
of Chamarajanagar. It had left a deep scar in his mind and had in fact
was troubling him within. So he chose to avenge for the violent sufferings and
humiliations which the Karnataka Tamils were subjected to in 1991.

The irony is that Veerappan is a Karnataka Tamil. He was born at
Gopinaththam that falls within 10 kilometers west of river Pâlâru, a tributory of
Cauvery, that marks the border delineating Karnataka and Tamilnadu. Gopinaththam is
right inside Karnataka after the Tamil-speaking Kollegal was annexed to it during States'
reorganisation. Whereas, the thespian Rajkumar's father was from
Singânallur which next to the Coimbatore Town on the Coimbatore-Sulur Road. He was a
Telugu speaking Idiga. His mother was Lakshmiamma, a Tamil. More so, the term
Idiga
was a Telugu derivative of the name Eezhavar, which means those who were originally
from Eelam or the island of Sri Lanka. Such a person could later become
the icon of Kannada chauvinism in Karnataka!

The gloom of the Dravidian dupe fades out while the Tamil seeks the right of
self-determination. Karnataka Tamils stand out as the beacon light.

The social
environment that drove Veerappan into the forests as a sandalwood smuggler or poacher had
lit in him the fiery fire of Tamil nationalism, as he had witnessed the State sponsored
anti-Tamil violence for ethnic cleansing.

So, Veerappan has don a new
role. The myth of Aryan-Dravidian dichotomy
is going to suffer its fatal
beatings in the process; and, sure, the Tamil will stand up to seize the
skies.

The Tamilnadu Tamils, who are stuck up in the marshes of nasty
caste
politics thrust on them by the Vadugar-Dravidian bluffs are going to be
shaken and roused
finally by Karanataka Tamils. There is no escape from it! Karnataka
Tamils will catalyse the Tamil awakening. It seems to be their
history's destiny. Veerappan has identified the
enemy. So, he blows the conch for the cause of Tamils' liberation, and
the restorations of their land and glory.


http://tamilnation.co/diaspora/karnataka.htm

KV, please share your thoughts on the 'Kannada chauvinist outrage' that the tamilnation site talks about.

why are you silent on the 'Kannada chauvinist outrage' that this worthless rag tamilnation talks about.

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Post by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:10 pm

Kris wrote:
>>>>...No entity, not even a gov't agency, can be so banal in its "dreams".
you underestimate their idiocy, and many southern indians' willingness to "prove" their "indianness."

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Post by Hellsangel Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:24 pm

Yay! The language wars begin again.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:26 pm

you mean the weekend semantic wanking olympics have begun? was there a torch lighting ceremony?

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:38 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:39 pm

Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

Richard, are you all right?

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Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

Richard, are you all right?

Given your past medical history, i get concerned whenever i see you getting agitated.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

Richard, are you all right?

I'm very fine thanks, Rashmun.

You must worry more about your own present mental health. Probably no way to go but up :-)

Given your past medical history, i get concerned whenever i see you getting agitated.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:47 pm

Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

Richard, are you all right?

I'm very fine thanks, Rashmun.

You must worry more about your own present mental health. Probably no way to go but up :-)

Given your past medical history, i get concerned whenever i see you getting agitated.

i am relieved to know that you are keeping in good health. i am determined not to fight with you after you revealed that you have been on anti-anxiety/anti-depression medication since the age of 11.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:52 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

Richard, are you all right?

I'm very fine thanks, Rashmun.

You must worry more about your own present mental health. Probably no way to go but up :-)

Given your past medical history, i get concerned whenever i see you getting agitated.

i am relieved to know that you are keeping in good health. i am determined not to fight with you after you revealed that you have been on anti-anxiety/anti-depression medication since the age of 11.

Thanks for the "courtesy" but not necessary and also false statement. I was on similar mess but not what you said above and it was at 11 but never later. Liked how you twisted facts to make them untrue to suit you...

Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)

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Post by charvaka Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:58 pm

Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:15 pm

charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.

PP Method!

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:17 pm

Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Richard, are you all right?

I'm very fine thanks, Rashmun.

You must worry more about your own present mental health. Probably no way to go but up :-)

Given your past medical history, i get concerned whenever i see you getting agitated.

i am relieved to know that you are keeping in good health. i am determined not to fight with you after you revealed that you have been on anti-anxiety/anti-depression medication since the age of 11.

Thanks for the "courtesy" but not necessary and also false statement. I was on similar mess but not what you said above and it was at 11 but never later. Liked how you twisted facts to make them untrue to suit you...

Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)

i have no wish to know which precise mental illness you were suffering from at the age of eleven because of which you had to take medication.i do not know nor do i wish to know how long you were on medication. the whole point is that i have resolved not to fight with you out of my concern that doing so might trigger a relapse.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:18 pm

charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.

sigh you did it again

you made fun of him

now watch him all weekend

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:19 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.

sigh you did it again

you made fun of him

now watch him all weekend

Tracy is just feeling frustated after she lost her job.

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Post by charvaka Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:52 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.

sigh you did it again

you made fun of him

now watch him all weekend

Tracy is just feeling frustated after she lost her job.
Kicking middle-parted head left, right and center. Way to go, Rashmun!
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:53 pm

charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.

sigh you did it again

you made fun of him

now watch him all weekend

Tracy is just feeling frustated after she lost her job.
Kicking middle-parted head left, right and center. Way to go, Rashmun!

samosapedia and urban dictionary continue to haunt the Telangan.

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Post by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:17 pm

charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.
does that mean "yes?"

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Post by charvaka Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:20 pm

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.
does that mean "yes?"
What do you think?
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Post by Impedimenta Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:57 pm

charvaka wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Maybe this is the Rashmun Method, I've only read but, never experienced before :-)
That's affirmative.
does that mean "yes?"
What do you think?

what do YOU think? what? suddenly, *i* cannot play?

BTW, do you know that there is a rumor floating around about how the blue flower admin bribe is now replaced with gongura pickle? is it true? cause i need to learn to make gongura here.....

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thanks for the tip. caru, please fix the chat lag.

here http://www.gr8mart.com/product_images/s/557/andhra_gongura_pickle__67919_zoom.JPG

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what is gongura anyway?

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Post by doofus_maximus Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:18 pm

Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Why would you ask people to write to television channels based on a photograph of a sign when KV does not tell us the precise location of the sign so that its existence inside Chennai airport can be verified?
So the picture might be verified. Now, tell me, why would you just assume that such a sign does not exist at all? Are you afraid that such a sign might actually be discovered and independently verified if a Tamil TV news channel was looking for it?

i am not prepared to accept the existence of this sign in chennai airport, without someone telling me where exactly inside the airport this sign is situated, because i have visited chennai airport on multiple occasions and have never seen it. Secondly, KV always gives links to Tamil Tribune and Tamil Tribune is a worthless rag (for instance Tamil Tribune claims that gangster Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero). So i am not going to blindly swallow whatever KV tells me.

KV would have done her own cause a favor by telling us the precise location of this sign inside the airport.


Rashmunni, Did you check all the nook and crannies of a big airport?
You haven't seen it and so it doesn't exist. What logic man?
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:22 pm

doofus_maximus wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
charvaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Why would you ask people to write to television channels based on a photograph of a sign when KV does not tell us the precise location of the sign so that its existence inside Chennai airport can be verified?
So the picture might be verified. Now, tell me, why would you just assume that such a sign does not exist at all? Are you afraid that such a sign might actually be discovered and independently verified if a Tamil TV news channel was looking for it?

i am not prepared to accept the existence of this sign in chennai airport, without someone telling me where exactly inside the airport this sign is situated, because i have visited chennai airport on multiple occasions and have never seen it. Secondly, KV always gives links to Tamil Tribune and Tamil Tribune is a worthless rag (for instance Tamil Tribune claims that gangster Veerappan was a great tamil nationalist hero). So i am not going to blindly swallow whatever KV tells me.

KV would have done her own cause a favor by telling us the precise location of this sign inside the airport.


Rashmunni, Did you check all the nook and crannies of a big airport?
You haven't seen it and so it doesn't exist. What logic man?

Doffus, i gave two reasons for why i will not blindly swallow whatever KV says on this issue.

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Post by doofus_maximus Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:25 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language; they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

Richard, are you all right?

Given your past medical history, i get concerned whenever i see you getting agitated.

Your douchiness knows no bounds.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:26 pm

doofus_maximus wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

you are not the only person on this forum who has lived in bangalore. i too have lived in bangalore for several years. kannadigas in bangalore have told me that they don't like the fact that there exist north indians born and brought up in bangalore who do not speak any kannada, and they also don't like the fact that tamilians prefer communicating with them in tamil even when the conversation is taking place in bangalore. (in this respect, the tamilians were no different from the north indians, according to the kannadigas i spoke to.) i mentioned this in an earlier post addressed to Max and this article corroborates part of what i had said earlier.

on another note, my tamil colleagues in bangalore who had been born and brought up in TN and whose homes were in TN had packed their bags and rushed back to TN when the Cauvery water protests had flared up. i asked them why they were leaving--can they not claim to be tamilians if any kannadigas come around to rough them up? they said that they did not speak kannada fluently and would be identified as tamilians by the way they talk. at any rate they were not prepared to take any risk and rushed back to TN, while I--the North Indian--remained behind in bangalore.

You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

Richard, are you all right?

Given your past medical history, i get concerned whenever i see you getting agitated.

Your douchiness knows no bounds.

i see no reason to fight with someone who has publicly declared that he has suffered from a mental illness in the past. if he has a relapse it would always bother my conscience.

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Post by doofus_maximus Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:30 pm

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i see no reason to fight with someone who has publicly declared that he has suffered from a mental illness in the past. if he has a relapse it would always bother my conscience.

What a noble gesture. You bringing up his past medical issues and then magnanimously refraining from using so as to prevent triggering a relapse reeks of douchiness. You know that too.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:36 pm

doofus_maximus wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

i see no reason to fight with someone who has publicly declared that he has suffered from a mental illness in the past. if he has a relapse it would always bother my conscience.

What a noble gesture. You bringing up his past medical issues and then magnanimously refraining from not using it to trigger a relapse reeks of douchiness. You know that too.

i brought it up after he started behaving in a cantankerous manner. i have no problem if he wants to argue with me in a cool and civil tone, but i am not going to fight with him.

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Post by doofus_maximus Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:39 pm

Lol @ cantankerous..
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Post by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:53 pm

doofus_maximus wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

i see no reason to fight with someone who has publicly declared that he has suffered from a mental illness in the past. if he has a relapse it would always bother my conscience.

What a noble gesture. You bringing up his past medical issues and then magnanimously refraining from not using it to trigger a relapse reeks of douchiness. You know that too.
i'm glad you acknowledge rashmun's gesture as a noble one. it was dickhead who, on his own, "brought up his past medical issues," not rashmun. a relapse could be disastrous; you should appreciate rashmun's magnanimity.

after what dickhead and huzefa kapasi have said here, i'm determined to treat both with as much kindness as i can muster.

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Post by doofus_maximus Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:03 pm

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
doofus_maximus wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

i see no reason to fight with someone who has publicly declared that he has suffered from a mental illness in the past. if he has a relapse it would always bother my conscience.

What a noble gesture. You bringing up his past medical issues and then magnanimously refraining from not using it to trigger a relapse reeks of douchiness. You know that too.
i'm glad you acknowledge rashmun's gesture as a noble one. it was dickhead who, on his own, "brought up his past medical issues," not rashmun. a relapse could be disastrous; you should appreciate rashmun's magnanimity.

after what dickhead and huzefa kapasi have said here, i'm determined to treat both with as much kindness as i can muster.

The context of him bringing up his past medical history was entirely different. Any time Rashmun runs out of valid points to say, he brings it up and gloriously declares that he won't use it.
Is this a twist in the now famous Rashmun method? Only repeated use of that said technique will give us a clue.

Also I am happy to see that you are glad that I acknowledged his douchiness. One day I will understand you too. Then all the peasants can rejoice.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:06 pm

doofus_maximus wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
doofus_maximus wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

i see no reason to fight with someone who has publicly declared that he has suffered from a mental illness in the past. if he has a relapse it would always bother my conscience.

What a noble gesture. You bringing up his past medical issues and then magnanimously refraining from not using it to trigger a relapse reeks of douchiness. You know that too.
i'm glad you acknowledge rashmun's gesture as a noble one. it was dickhead who, on his own, "brought up his past medical issues," not rashmun. a relapse could be disastrous; you should appreciate rashmun's magnanimity.

after what dickhead and huzefa kapasi have said here, i'm determined to treat both with as much kindness as i can muster.

The context of him bringing up his past medical history was entirely different. Any time Rashmun runs out of valid points to say, he brings it up and gloriously declares that he won't use it.
Is this a twist in the now famous Rashmun method? Only repeated use of that said technique will give us a clue.

Also I am happy to see that you are glad that I acknowledged his douchiness. One day I will understand you too. Then all the peasants can rejoice.

understand what he says? or understand why he says so?

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:12 pm

doofus_maximus wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
doofus_maximus wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

i see no reason to fight with someone who has publicly declared that he has suffered from a mental illness in the past. if he has a relapse it would always bother my conscience.

What a noble gesture. You bringing up his past medical issues and then magnanimously refraining from not using it to trigger a relapse reeks of douchiness. You know that too.
i'm glad you acknowledge rashmun's gesture as a noble one. it was dickhead who, on his own, "brought up his past medical issues," not rashmun. a relapse could be disastrous; you should appreciate rashmun's magnanimity.

after what dickhead and huzefa kapasi have said here, i'm determined to treat both with as much kindness as i can muster.

The context of him bringing up his past medical history was entirely different. Any time Rashmun runs out of valid points to say, he brings it up and gloriously declares that he won't use it.
Is this a twist in the now famous Rashmun method? Only repeated use of that said technique will give us a clue.

Also I am happy to see that you are glad that I acknowledged his douchiness. One day I will understand you too. Then all the peasants can rejoice.

Doffus, i refuse to respond to the following words (which i have highlighted) of someone who has claimed to be suffering from a mental illness earlier since i have no wish to rattle or upset such a person:

Richard Hed wrote:
Bullshit. I live Bangalore and speak
Kannada when people ak me for directions in any other Indian language;
they immediately shift to English.

Maybe I should write a blog or an op-Ed piece for a local paper and "hope" you will link to it...haha....


You "remained" as you did NOT have anything to do with Cauvery water dispute as a
cow-beltaran...
PS: Why haven't you also quoted a conv with an autodriver for anecdotal evidence in this thread yet? Haha

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