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Post by ashaNirasha Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:53 pm

Done. At a mutually agreed temperature of 65 degrees. If it were me, I would have fought tooth and nail for 72 degrees.

I love Biden, loved him when he debated Palin, love him now.

Ryan looked like a high school kid with exaggerated theatrics, but he wasn't bad at all.

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Post by Hellsangel Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:22 am

Ah! Hope-Unhope, you go for older guys!
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Post by Petrichor Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:20 am

Hellsangel wrote:Ah! Hope-Unhope, you go for older guys!

Was that an admission that you go for guys pumping iron?

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:24 am

Is it me or does Ryan look short tempered?

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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:33 am

no contest. biden's a dumb old guy that doesnt know his ass from elbow (vitness his infamous gaffes w.r.t race which the bicoastals wont make a stink about) in the same mold as the first bush's running mate of the potatoe fame. the fitness freak with the pirates of carribean wife is atleast smart and knows his stuff, his outlandish objectivist beliefs from reading ayn rand's bullshit not withstanding.

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Post by Impedimenta Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:39 am

biden was the smirkmaster.

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Post by Impedimenta Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:40 am

Ryan swears by his p90x, acc to my sources.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:43 am

you should post a blog link to it, with cryptic commentary such as LOL, I approve.

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Post by Impedimenta Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:you should post a blog link to it, with cryptic commentary such as LOL, I approve.

forgot my ADD meds. so, no.

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Post by ashaNirasha Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:34 am

Hellsangel wrote:Ah! Hope-Unhope, you go for older guys!


Yes, for Biden. Although he looks much older now.

This is in my face every day, in my neighbor's yard, like 2 inches from mine. He has a huge yard, and several nice spots where he could have stuck it. But no, he has to put it right on the line. I need to go get a Obama-Biden sign. Wonder where people get those from.




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Post by ashaNirasha Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:39 am

Natalia Romanova wrote:Is it me or does Ryan look short tempered?


He looks like that Shuster guy from Glee.

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Post by ashaNirasha Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:50 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:no contest. biden's a dumb old guy that doesnt know his ass from elbow (vitness his infamous gaffes w.r.t race which the bicoastals wont make a stink about) in the same mold as the first bush's running mate of the potatoe fame. the fitness freak with the pirates of carribean wife is atleast smart and knows his stuff, his outlandish objectivist beliefs from reading ayn rand's bullshit not withstanding.

That was hard to read..so may adjectives thrown in one or two long sentences - dumb, ass, bicoastals, stink, outlandish, bullshit.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:02 am

ashaNirasha wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:no contest. biden's a dumb old guy that doesnt know his ass from elbow (vitness his infamous gaffes w.r.t race which the bicoastals wont make a stink about) in the same mold as the first bush's running mate of the potatoe fame. the fitness freak with the pirates of carribean wife is atleast smart and knows his stuff, his outlandish objectivist beliefs from reading ayn rand's bullshit not withstanding.

That was hard to read..so may adjectives thrown in one or two long sentences - dumb, ass, bicoastals, stink, outlandish, bullshit.

what you need to know:
biden: dumbass old guy with a childish smirk in place of real debate points.
ryan: has pirates of carribean wife (she could land a place in that movie based on her looks) but is smart and serious abt his stuff unlike the dumb and clownish biden.

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:46 am

I missed this debate as well, as I was on a flight at the time. From what I have read about it so far, it sounds like both guys did what they needed to do for their partisans. Biden needed to make up for Obama's lack of energy and passion last week, and I can see that liberals are again energized. Ryan hung in there and stayed polite, which is what Obama did as well, but given the differences between them in age, experience and current office that perhaps seemed more appropriate to viewers in this situation. Now it is up to Obama to deliver a strong performance in the last two debates.

At this point it looks like Romney is slightly up in national polls, but Obama hangs on to his leads in the states that matter. Hopefully this debate blunts Romney's momentum and arrests Obama's slide in Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa. If he keeps those three leads above the 2% mark, he will win. Early voting is going on in Ohio and Obama seems to have a clear advantage there.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:48 am

If Obama appears jaded in next debate that's the end of him and rightly so. No one needs a prez who is in half heatedly.

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:52 am

Natalia Romanova wrote:If Obama appears jaded in next debate that's the end of him and rightly so. No one needs a prez who is in half heatedly.
You are probably right. Now that he is down in the national polls, I think he will be more aggressive in the remaining debates. If he can call out the contradictions of Romney's attempt to move back to the center, he can regain the lead he had in the polls a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by Petrichor Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:54 am

Is it friday yet?

>> Ryan hung

>>prez who is in half heat

>>That was hard

>>several nice spots where he could have stuck it


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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:54 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:ryan: ... is smart and serious abt his stuff
As smart and serious as a guy can be when he says he can eat 4,000 calories a day, not exercise at all, and lose 60 pounds all at the same time.

(c) Larry Summers
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Post by Hellsangel Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:26 pm

atcg wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:Ah! Hope-Unhope, you go for older guys!

Was that an admission that you go for guys pumping iron?


Talking about looks.....
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Post by Propagandhi711 Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:47 pm

panini press wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:ryan: ... is smart and serious abt his stuff
As smart and serious as a guy can be when he says he can eat 4,000 calories a day, not exercise at all, and lose 60 pounds all at the same time.

(c) Larry Summers

you'll have to explain the sark to rest of us that dont politico 24x7

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Post by Idéfix Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:14 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
panini press wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:ryan: ... is smart and serious abt his stuff
As smart and serious as a guy can be when he says he can eat 4,000 calories a day, not exercise at all, and lose 60 pounds all at the same time.

(c) Larry Summers

you'll have to explain the sark to rest of us that dont politico 24x7
Hint: Ryan's claim that he can reduce tax rates, increase defense spending, close budget deficit and not take away middle-class deductions all at the same time.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:38 pm

panini press wrote:
Hint: Ryan's claim that he can reduce tax rates, increase defense spending, close budget deficit and not take away middle-class deductions all at the same time. [/quote]

The average republican voter doesn't see any anything wrong with the math here! America has been great in spite of the average voter (thanks to immigrants, 'liberals' and the defense establishment)!

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