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What is time?
by southindian Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:40 pm
What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
Anyone?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
Anyone?
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Re: What is time?
by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:45 pm
Indian philosophers have done a lot of thinking on this topic. Their views should be taken into account when coming up with any answer to the question.
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by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:51 pm
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Re: What is time?
by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:52 pm
southindian wrote:What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
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An interval between two events, something which has a beginning and an ending?
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Re: What is time?
by southindian Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:28 pm
Max, The physics explanation is fine and google has tons of sources. Your link is a source from another link which is easily available (internet).
My question goes beyond which no one can answer.
Who created time and what is time?
If there is a beginning of an event, then what was before that (event or time)?
If time is a measure of space (covered) then how far (distance), time can go? Why is there a limit?
Try answering that.
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Re: What is time?
by southindian Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:30 pm
kinnera wrote:southindian wrote:What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
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An interval between two events, something which has a beginning and an ending?
What is beginning of time?
Why does "time" have any beginning?
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Re: What is time?
by truthbetold Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:05 pm
Whatever time is, it is the only resource that is available in equal measure to every one of us. It is the use of this resource that will define each of our present and future.
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Re: What is time?
by southindian Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:05 pm
Sasthi wrote:Time is God!
I could become a disbeliever, but Time, Space and Character (of humans) make me continue to believe in God.
Yes, there is God.
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Re: What is time?
by Merlot Daruwala Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:06 pm
southindian wrote:kinnera wrote:southindian wrote:What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
Anyone?
An interval between two events, something which has a beginning and an ending?
What is beginning of time?
Why does "time" have any beginning?
Ah. Such profound questions. Time for you to enter vanaprastha ashrama and contemplate on the meaning of time, life, universe and everything.
Alternatively, stop drinking and splash some cold water on your face. These questions will go away on their own.
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Re: What is time?
by southindian Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:10 pm
truthbetold wrote:Whatever time is, it is the only resource that is available in equal measure to every one of us. It is the use of this resource that will define each of our present and future.
Time doesn't define anything. Humans define time.
Humans use time as benchmark to define "everything", mostly using Time as excuse, weapon, scale.
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Re: What is time?
by southindian Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:11 pm
Merlot Daruwala wrote:southindian wrote:kinnera wrote:southindian wrote:What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
Anyone?
An interval between two events, something which has a beginning and an ending?
What is beginning of time?
Why does "time" have any beginning?
Ah. Such profound questions. Time for you to enter vanaprastha ashrama and contemplate on the meaning of time, life, universe and everything.
Alternatively, stop drinking and splash some cold water on your face. These questions will go away on their own.
I don't drink alcohol. You can join me for a coffee or a lassi.
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Re: What is time?
by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:37 pm
southindian wrote:Your link is a source from another link which is easily available (internet).
i didn't say it was an original idea, but i didn't cut and paste from another source. i distilled my understanding of time and space in what i wrote. and why is any metaphysical explanation superior to a physics based explanation? i find the idea that time and space could be ultimately granular, i.e discrete, one of the most fascinating thoughts. no metaphysics based thought could beat that for me.
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Re: What is time?
by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:37 pm
southindian wrote:kinnera wrote:southindian wrote:What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
Anyone?
An interval between two events, something which has a beginning and an ending?
What is beginning of time?
Why does "time" have any beginning?
beginning of time is relative. u can go back how much ever you want.
it has to have a beginning coz it has an ending too. anything that ends has to have a beginning.
only the 'eternal' one is said to be endless, beginning less, hence timeless and limitless. There wasn't a point (of time) when IT wasn't there. There won't be a point when IT ceases to exist.
As MD said, u got to take the vanaprasta ashram and contemplate on such stuff
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by Petrichor Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:16 pm
kinnera wrote:
As MD said, u got to take the vanaprasta ashram and contemplate on such stuff
Every Ph.D candidate could then be considered to be in vanaprastha mode.
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Re: What is time?
by Merlot Daruwala Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:23 am
atcg wrote:kinnera wrote:
As MD said, u got to take the vanaprasta ashram and contemplate on such stuff
Every Ph.D candidate could then be considered to be in vanaprastha mode.
Ph.D candidates who are single are anyway past their shelf life and have no option but go straight from brahmacharya to vanaprastha.
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Re: What is time?
by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:49 am
you have accorded enormous significance to a pedestrian question asked by a northindian. s/he merely wanted to know what time it was. when northindians want to know what time it is, they ask, "what is time?" leaving out the definite article, "the." you should have answered, "1:31 am, give or take a minute."southindian wrote:What is time?
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Re: What is time?
by Impedimenta Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:10 am
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:you have accorded enormous significance to a pedestrian question asked by a northindian. s/he merely wanted to know what time it was. when northindians want to know what time it is, they ask, "what is time?" leaving out the definite article, "the." you should have answered, "1:31 am, give or take a minute."southindian wrote:What is time?
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LOL!
JM, hope you are doing ok. i go on stage in a few hours. i am having fun in chennai, lapping up all the CM concerts i can get :-) Sriram gnaghadharan, abhishek raguram, sriram parthasarathy are the stars this season. google for their music. i think you'll enjoy it.
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Re: What is time?
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:34 am
said asha bhosle to a contestant in surkshetra -- you were over confident that is why you failed. you need to be a little nervous as you step on stage.
good luck!
good luck!
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Re: What is time?
by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:58 am
Impedimenta wrote:Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:you have accorded enormous significance to a pedestrian question asked by a northindian. s/he merely wanted to know what time it was. when northindians want to know what time it is, they ask, "what is time?" leaving out the definite article, "the." you should have answered, "1:31 am, give or take a minute."southindian wrote:What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
Anyone?
LOL!
JM, hope you are doing ok. i go on stage in a few hours. i am having fun in chennai, lapping up all the CM concerts i can get :-) Sriram gnaghadharan, abhishek raguram, sriram parthasarathy are the stars this season. google for their music. i think you'll enjoy it.
impy, good luck! i am sure it will go well.
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Re: What is time?
by southindian Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:02 am
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:you have accorded enormous significance to a pedestrian question asked by a northindian. s/he merely wanted to know what time it was. when northindians want to know what time it is, they ask, "what is time?" leaving out the definite article, "the." you should have answered, "1:31 am, give or take a minute."southindian wrote:What is time?
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Phelgmy, I was hoping being southindian you wouldn't have comprehension issues. The question was asked to define time as dimension, we humans associate with everything.
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Re: What is time?
by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:16 am
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:you have accorded enormous significance to a pedestrian question asked by a northindian. s/he merely wanted to know what time it was. when northindians want to know what time it is, they ask, "what is time?" leaving out the definite article, "the." you should have answered, "1:31 am, give or take a minute."southindian wrote:What is time?
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totally missed this post. LMAO!
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Re: What is time?
by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:19 am
btw russians do it too, i.e. leaving out the definite article.
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Re: What is time?
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:21 am
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
good luck!
good luck POKCTAP!
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Re: What is time?
by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:26 am
impedimenta, given your dedication, preparation, and love of dancing, i have no doubt that your performance will go splendidly. enjoy yourself; tell us about it later.Impedimenta wrote:Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:you have accorded enormous significance to a pedestrian question asked by a northindian. s/he merely wanted to know what time it was. when northindians want to know what time it is, they ask, "what is time?" leaving out the definite article, "the." you should have answered, "1:31 am, give or take a minute."southindian wrote:What is time?
Geniuses... Care to explain?
Anyone?
LOL!
JM, hope you are doing ok. i go on stage in a few hours. i am having fun in chennai, lapping up all the CM concerts i can get :-) Sriram gnaghadharan, abhishek raguram, sriram parthasarathy are the stars this season. google for their music. i think you'll enjoy it.
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Re: What is time?
by Seva Lamberdar Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:52 am
Here is time, according to Vaisesika Darshna (Philosophy of Atomistic Pluralism – http://www.geocities.ws/lamberdar/vaisesika.html)
Akasa, time and space are all-pervading, have the largest dimensions and are common receptacles of all corporeal things.
Akasa, space and time have no lower species and reflect the names of individuals. To account for the variety of experience, their single entities are assumed. All phenomena take place in them. Space and time are the instrumental causes of all produced things. Reality is a process or a passage, and exists spatially and temporally. Space leads to the sense of direction (east and west, etc.) and maintains things in their relative positions.
The form of time is essential to the concrete changes of nature, such as production, destruction and persistence of things. It is the force which brings about changes in non-eternal substances. It is not the cosmic power which causes the movements, but is the condition of all movement.
All perceptible things are perceived as moving, changing, coming into existence and as passing out of it. Discrete things have no power of self-origination and self-movement. If they had, there would not be that mutual relation of things, which persists in spite of all change. The movement is ordered, which means that there must be a reality which has a general relation to all changes. Time is regarded as the independent real pervading the whole universe and making the ordered movement of things possible. It is the basis of the relations of priority and posterity, simultaneity and non-simultaneity, and the notion of soon and late. There is only one time which is omnipresent in dimension, individual in character, and has the qualities of conjunction and disjunction.
In Vaisesika, time is an eternal substance and the basis of all experience. It is not known what time is as itself, but various experiences are cast in the form of time. It is the formal cause of the relations of priority and posterity, while their material cause is the nature of objects, as jar, cloth, and the like.
Time, which is one, appears as many on account of its association with the changes that are related to it. Conventional notions, as moment, minute, hour, year, etc., are derived by abstraction from concrete time. Note that space deals with coexistence, time with successions, or more accurately, space deals with visible objects, while time deals with things produced and destroyed. Things move by virtue of time and hold together by virtue of space.
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Akasa, time and space are all-pervading, have the largest dimensions and are common receptacles of all corporeal things.
Akasa, space and time have no lower species and reflect the names of individuals. To account for the variety of experience, their single entities are assumed. All phenomena take place in them. Space and time are the instrumental causes of all produced things. Reality is a process or a passage, and exists spatially and temporally. Space leads to the sense of direction (east and west, etc.) and maintains things in their relative positions.
The form of time is essential to the concrete changes of nature, such as production, destruction and persistence of things. It is the force which brings about changes in non-eternal substances. It is not the cosmic power which causes the movements, but is the condition of all movement.
All perceptible things are perceived as moving, changing, coming into existence and as passing out of it. Discrete things have no power of self-origination and self-movement. If they had, there would not be that mutual relation of things, which persists in spite of all change. The movement is ordered, which means that there must be a reality which has a general relation to all changes. Time is regarded as the independent real pervading the whole universe and making the ordered movement of things possible. It is the basis of the relations of priority and posterity, simultaneity and non-simultaneity, and the notion of soon and late. There is only one time which is omnipresent in dimension, individual in character, and has the qualities of conjunction and disjunction.
In Vaisesika, time is an eternal substance and the basis of all experience. It is not known what time is as itself, but various experiences are cast in the form of time. It is the formal cause of the relations of priority and posterity, while their material cause is the nature of objects, as jar, cloth, and the like.
Time, which is one, appears as many on account of its association with the changes that are related to it. Conventional notions, as moment, minute, hour, year, etc., are derived by abstraction from concrete time. Note that space deals with coexistence, time with successions, or more accurately, space deals with visible objects, while time deals with things produced and destroyed. Things move by virtue of time and hold together by virtue of space.
Seva
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