the musical burning bush

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:02 pm

http://www.themusicmagazine.com/mansursugu.html

When I heard Mansur's Jaunpuri the first time, I knew exactly how Moses felt when he communed with the burning bush. My hair stood on end and I could not move. I was staggered by his breath control and the way one note packed into the next. I knew then that this was what I was looking for.

i may have posted this article before, not sure. mallikarjun mansur's music has sustained me through some good times and really bad times. the jaunpuri that she is talking about is easily some of the most moving pieces of music i've ever heard. there aren't too many things musical that affect me in the same way. sidney bechet comes close. the pathos in mallikarjun's jaunpuri punches you in the gut. carnatic musicians do jaunpuri too, but it's usually in thukkadas and thillanas. nothing like this.

part 1:

part 2:

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:03 pm

the recording quality is uneven, but ignore that and just immerse yourself in the music.

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:17 pm

there is a part 3:

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:21 pm

here is a carnatic sample of jaunpuri for comparison:

i used to like this before i listened to mansur's jaunpuri.

by bw Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:41 pm

you had posted his music a while back on sulekha and that's the first piece of hindustani music that i listened to fully. it is very evocative and beautiful.

http://indiapulse.sulekha.com/forums/coffeehouse_mallikarjun-mansur-1058669

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:14 am

mansur in a very unusual mood:

he is beautiful as usual, but some very lively, almost aggressive taan singing.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:37 am

wow, i had forgotten what a gripping marwa this is! this is some powerful singing.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:51 am

one of the most moving obits that i remember from when he passed away:

http://www.chembur.com/anecdotes/mansur.htm

by Obnoxious Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:35 am

Is Marwa same as Hamsanandi?

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:29 am

Silk Smitha wrote:Is Marwa same as Hamsanandi?

same scale, but i think sohini is closer to hamsanandi. sohini, marwa, and puriya all have the same scale except they have different pakads and chalans. here is a writeup of the differences between the three:
http://swaratala.blogspot.com/2011/04/marwa-puriya-sohini-tricky-triplets.html

listen to kumar gandharva's sohini:

for a lay listener like me, sohini has a much lighter touch and marwa has a much heavier contemplative feel.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:28 am

an example from the movie world is jhoomti chali hawa:

mukesh does a nice job of sohini. the other example is kuhu kuhu bole kohaliya. but it has the irritating voice of lata mangeshkar, so i refuse to post that example.

by Obnoxious Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:55 am

Here it is as sung by Ghantasala & Jikki.

by pravalika nanda Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:05 pm

Silk Smitha wrote:Here it is as sung by Ghantasala & Jikki.

** i hope you guys don't mind but i've been wanting to post this video but i refrained from doing do cuz i know you'll think it's tasteless but i really like the music and since the title says burning and music, here's some good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelHwf8o7_U

by garam_kuta Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:03 am

pravalika nanda wrote:
Silk Smitha wrote:Here it is as sung by Ghantasala & Jikki.

** i hope you guys don't mind but i've been wanting to post this video but i refrained from doing do cuz i know you'll think it's tasteless but i really like the music and since the title says burning and music, here's some good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelHwf8o7_U

et voila PN !

by pravalika nanda Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:07 am

garam_kuta wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Silk Smitha wrote:Here it is as sung by Ghantasala & Jikki.

** i hope you guys don't mind but i've been wanting to post this video but i refrained from doing do cuz i know you'll think it's tasteless but i really like the music and since the title says burning and music, here's some good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelHwf8o7_U

et voila PN !

ah! thank you, god. good night.

by pravalika nanda Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:08 am

by the way, hot dog, how did you do that?

by garam_kuta Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:57 am

pravalika nanda wrote:by the way, hot dog, how did you do that?

just type in

[youtube]followed by xxxxx[/youtube]

where xxxxx is the code that you see just after the =sign xxxxx in the you tube link

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:25 pm

whenever this talk of southern indians who have gone outside of their cultural milieu comes up, i am always reminded of the very finest hindustani vocalist i've ever had the pleasure of listening to. nothing in hindustani music to me comes within miles of this man's music. musically he is in the rarest of rare realms and all alone. this discussion of mangeshkar, usha uthup and all those hariharan whatsisname shankar fellas brought this thread back to my conscious memory and i was motivated to go back and listen to that old jaunpuri. it's too intense for me to listen too often, but i just did. goosebumps.

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:13 am

a documentary on mansur's life:

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