Asia University Ranks (top 100)

by Seva Lamberdar Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:20 pm

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2012-13/regional-ranking/region/asia?gclid=CLeE_b6GxLYCFcNaMgodW28Acg

Only 3 from India: IIT KGP (#30), IIT Bombay (#33) and IIT Roorkee (#56)

by Maria S Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:35 pm

I am more surprised to see you around at this time Seva! It's a nice coincidence..I don't come by often at this time too..

Was about one more Nila-Moon song before the real Moon disappears, so I'll do that and disappear:)

Good night dear Seva!

by Rishi Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:00 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2012-13/regional-ranking/region/asia?gclid=CLeE_b6GxLYCFcNaMgodW28Acg

Only 3 from India: IIT KGP (#30), IIT Bombay (#33) and IIT Roorkee (#56)

There are three Saudi Arabian schools on the list.

They must be doing very high level research there.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:05 pm

Rishi wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2012-13/regional-ranking/region/asia?gclid=CLeE_b6GxLYCFcNaMgodW28Acg

Only 3 from India: IIT KGP (#30), IIT Bombay (#33) and IIT Roorkee (#56)

There are three Saudi Arabian schools on the list.

They must be doing very high level research there.

they hire a lot of american academics, give them excellent startup packages and pay them very well. quite a few who have a hard time getting tenure track positions in the US have been going for it for the last decade or so.

by Seva Lamberdar Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:59 pm

Maria S wrote:

Good night dear Seva!

Good afternoon dear Maria.

Rishi wrote:

There are three Saudi Arabian schools on the list.

They must be doing very high level research there.

I am surprised to see only 3 Indian schools on the list, that too in low rank (#30 and lower). And what happened to IISc?

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:20 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Maria S wrote:

Good night dear Seva!

Good afternoon dear Maria.

Rishi wrote:

There are three Saudi Arabian schools on the list.

They must be doing very high level research there.

I am surprised to see only 3 Indian schools on the list, that too in low rank (#30 and lower). And what happened to IISc?

Goes to prove 2 things that I say:

1. Rankings are in the eyes of the beholder

2. China invested phenomenally in higher education since their economic revival in 1970s, while India ignored it since the 90s and dumbed them down to ordinary colleges and converted even the elite universities into common diploma production houses.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

[/quote] Goes to prove 2 things that I say:

1. Rankings are in the eyes of the beholder

2. China invested phenomenally in higher education since their economic revival in 1970s, while India ignored it since the 90s and dumbed them down to ordinary colleges and converted even the elite universities into common diploma production houses.[/quote]

Also, Communist China embraced merit based admissions into universities and recruitment in jobs while vote-bank politics in India disregards merit in both categories. China will do well and India will shoot herself on the foot. The type of jobs that Latinos do in the US are the types Indians will be doing across the world in future. Scientists of Chinese origin in the US are setting up labs in China to increase their productivity and at the same time are improving the research atmosphere in China. I know one guy who has 35 graduate students working for him in his China lab!

by Idéfix Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:50 pm

Here is the methodology:

Our 13 performance indicators are grouped into five areas:

Teaching: the learning environment (worth 30 per cent of the overall score)
Research: volume, income and reputation (worth 30 per cent)
Citations: research influence (worth 30 per cent)
Industry income: innovation (worth 2.5 per cent)
International outlook: staff, students and research (worth 7.5 per cent).

Exclusions
Institutions are excluded from the Times Higher Education Asia University Rankings if they do not teach undergraduates; if they teach only a single narrow subject; or if their research output amounted to fewer than 1,000 articles between 2006 and 2010 (200 papers a year).

IISc doesn't make it because it doesn't teach undergraduate students. And the IITs fare poorly because they fall short on research, citations, and international outlook.

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