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Ph.D advisor can mess up your life
by Rishi Thu May 23, 2013 10:51 pm
Frank Zhang says:
May 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm
From Chinese website, it was said
that he was the No.1 student in math at PKU that year. However, since
knowing nothing about U.S. math program areas (in his time, no Internet
and almost zero information about U.S. graduate school in China), he got
into purdue’s math program but not in the area he is interested. Now we
all know he is interested in Number Theory.
However, he still managed to get his Ph.D. in the area he was not
interested at all. That was already amazing. In addition, rumors said
that his Ph.D. adviser then at Purdue apparently showed zero even
negative support after his graduation, which made his life afterwards
really difficult. That is one of the reason why he had such a hard time
to find an academic position to support his research and he had to work
at places like subway to make a living.
Even at UNH, he is not at a tenured position and has to face loads of
teaching duties that any tenured professor would not have to go
through.
However, he still manages to achieve this great work with such
perseverance. Amazing. His fellow students at his year at PKU now mostly
full professors at major institutions. However, none of them have
suffered this much as he has gone through.
May 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm
From Chinese website, it was said
that he was the No.1 student in math at PKU that year. However, since
knowing nothing about U.S. math program areas (in his time, no Internet
and almost zero information about U.S. graduate school in China), he got
into purdue’s math program but not in the area he is interested. Now we
all know he is interested in Number Theory.
However, he still managed to get his Ph.D. in the area he was not
interested at all. That was already amazing. In addition, rumors said
that his Ph.D. adviser then at Purdue apparently showed zero even
negative support after his graduation, which made his life afterwards
really difficult. That is one of the reason why he had such a hard time
to find an academic position to support his research and he had to work
at places like subway to make a living.
Even at UNH, he is not at a tenured position and has to face loads of
teaching duties that any tenured professor would not have to go
through.
However, he still manages to achieve this great work with such
perseverance. Amazing. His fellow students at his year at PKU now mostly
full professors at major institutions. However, none of them have
suffered this much as he has gone through.
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Re: Ph.D advisor can mess up your life
by Rishi Thu May 23, 2013 10:53 pm
A similar thing happened to someone I know. The advisor was writing bad recommendation letters behind his former student's back.
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Re: Ph.D advisor can mess up your life
by Kayalvizhi Thu May 23, 2013 10:56 pm
Rishi wrote:A similar thing happened to someone I know. The advisor was writing bad recommendation letters behind his former student's back.
Why?
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Re: Ph.D advisor can mess up your life
by Rishi Thu May 23, 2013 11:03 pm
Kayalvizhi wrote:Rishi wrote:A similar thing happened to someone I know. The advisor was writing bad recommendation letters behind his former student's back.
Why?
Apparently, the guy felt the student's research skills were not good enough.
If that is the case, the advisor should not have let that person get his Ph.D
Also the advisor did not have the decency to say upfront to the student that he would not send a good recommendation to the potential employers.
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Re: Ph.D advisor can mess up your life
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Thu May 23, 2013 11:59 pm
Kayalvizhi wrote:Rishi wrote:A similar thing happened to someone I know. The advisor was writing bad recommendation letters behind his former student's back.
Why?
What kind of a question is that. If you are indeed at Berkeley, you should know better.
academic etiquette, ethics, and tradition is for a professor to excuse himself on some grounds or tell the applicant of his inability. By writing a bad letter (of course, one can write a bad letter by coming across as diplomatically objective) the professor lowers his own prestige. Sooner or later people will find out who that professor is (not that it matters).
So Zhang's professor was/is just a plain asshole and not fit to be in that "noble" profession. Who knows he could have been an Indian or an American who did not like Chinkus or a Taiwanese who hated mainlanders (in those days).
Of course, this is far removed from LTTE and Ealam and you have no reason to know such things.
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