Demand for new states

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:19 am

"An impression is going out that an agitation can lead to creation of a new state, be it in Bundelkhand, Maharashtra, Gorkhaland or in our state. What will you tell people of Jammu -- agitate for seven or eight years and you will get a separate state? This is a dangerous thing," he said. The J&K chief minister said the job of creating new states should be entrusted to the States Reorganisation Commission. "If there is a need to create new states, the job should be entrusted to the States Reorganisation Commission."

Already Gorkhaland, Vidarbha, Hitesh Pradesh, Bundelkhand.....and wait for more to follow: Bodoland, KASHMIR, MALABAR, ThEn ThamiZH Naadu....just some 2-cent leader in these places taking the lead n calling for independent states....then things will take their own routes.

Stupid Congress and SELFISH congress.

by Idéfix Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:07 pm

I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

by Guest Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:20 pm

Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

There was no hyderabad like city involved in those new states' creation. It is not the same. This is big and totally different scenario now. Here the new state is the rest of AP who have to start everything from scratch and they never asked for it.
Watch out! This is going to trigger more regional fights and the disintegration of the states and maybe india. Who knows?

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:25 pm

Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

Then I guess you know the history/background of those bifurcations. 3 new states carved out of UP, Bihar, MP. These were very large states and agitation or no agitation there was the thought of divvying up these states. That is why you dont see any lingering major issues between them and the parent states.

Telengana and Rayalaseema issues are different, and the problems will continue (forever). Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.

by Idéfix Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:33 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.

You are wrong. The call for Telangana was revived right after the BJP created those three new states. And even back then, there were similar stories about calls for statehood for Vidarbha and others.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:13 pm

Idéfix wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.
You are wrong. The call for Telangana was revived right after the BJP created those three new states. And even back then, there were similar stories about calls for statehood for Vidarbha and others.

The call for telengana was raised in 1969. It was Sonia and Co who let KCR resurreect it. If the HIGH COMMAND had said "sushhhhh" KCR would hv shut up. So the blame for Telengana is entirely Sonia's.

by Idéfix Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:20 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.
You are wrong. The call for Telangana was revived right after the BJP created those three new states. And even back then, there were similar stories about calls for statehood for Vidarbha and others.

The call for telengana was raised in 1969. It was Sonia and Co who let KCR resurreect it. If the HIGH COMMAND had said "sushhhhh" KCR would hv shut up. So the blame for Telengana is entirely Sonia's.

You are again wrong. KCR was a TDP MLA who was denied a minister post in 2000 or thereabouts. He saw an opportunity with the creation of three new states by BJP to revive the Telangana issue. Congress didn't get involved until a year or so later.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:38 pm

ok..you are right...

by rawemotions Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:41 am

Idéfix wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.
You are wrong. The call for Telangana was revived right after the BJP created those three new states. And even back then, there were similar stories about calls for statehood for Vidarbha and others.

The call for telengana was raised in 1969. It was Sonia and Co who let KCR resurreect it. If the HIGH COMMAND had said "sushhhhh" KCR would hv shut up. So the blame for Telengana is entirely Sonia's.
You are again wrong. KCR was a TDP MLA who was denied a minister post in 2000 or thereabouts. He saw an opportunity with the creation of three new states by BJP to revive the Telangana issue. Congress didn't get involved until a year or so later.

Ironically it was YSR who resurrected Telegana demand to unseat TDP from power. But then he as expected of any Congress politician did a U-Turn after getting elected and said no to it.

by Merlot Daruwala Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:43 am

Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

by confuzzled dude Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:10 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

Then I guess you know the history/background of those bifurcations. 3 new states carved out of UP, Bihar, MP. These were very large states and agitation or no agitation there was the thought of divvying up these states. That is why you dont see any lingering major issues between them and the parent states.

Telengana and Rayalaseema issues are different, and the problems will continue (forever). Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.

KannA .. UppilammA.. going by your chaddified logic MH & AP are 3rd & 4th largest in terms of area.

by Impedimenta Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:12 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

Then I guess you know the history/background of those bifurcations. 3 new states carved out of UP, Bihar, MP. These were very large states and agitation or no agitation there was the thought of divvying up these states. That is why you dont see any lingering major issues between them and the parent states.

Telengana and Rayalaseema issues are different, and the problems will continue (forever). Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.

KannA .. UppilammA.. going by your chaddified logic MH & AP are 3rd & 4th largest in terms of area.

you called upps, KannA. aiyaiyoooo....

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:31 am

Impedimenta wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

Then I guess you know the history/background of those bifurcations. 3 new states carved out of UP, Bihar, MP. These were very large states and agitation or no agitation there was the thought of divvying up these states. That is why you dont see any lingering major issues between them and the parent states.

Telengana and Rayalaseema issues are different, and the problems will continue (forever). Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.

KannA .. UppilammA.. going by your chaddified logic MH & AP are 3rd & 4th largest in terms of area.

you called upps, KannA. aiyaiyoooo....

yeah...this place is getting to be scary.... Homsexuality is becoming rampant..Looks like it is very prevalent in the Pseudo-Islamic Secular Community.... Razz

by confuzzled dude Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:45 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

Then I guess you know the history/background of those bifurcations. 3 new states carved out of UP, Bihar, MP. These were very large states and agitation or no agitation there was the thought of divvying up these states. That is why you dont see any lingering major issues between them and the parent states.

Telengana and Rayalaseema issues are different, and the problems will continue (forever). Besides, there was no call for Gorkhaland, Bodoland, vidarbha after BJP created those states as those were PRIMARILY created for better governance. Same cannot be said of Telengana and hence the immediate call for division of other states.

KannA .. UppilammA.. going by your chaddified logic MH & AP are 3rd & 4th largest in terms of area.

you called upps, KannA. aiyaiyoooo....

yeah...this place is getting to be scary.... Homsexuality is becoming rampant..Looks like it is very prevalent in the Pseudo-Islamic Secular Community....

Look what you did to Impy, you falsely accused her of homophobia.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:28 pm

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Idéfix wrote:I wonder: did you have a similar reaction when the BJP decided to create three new states, also with an angle on political gain?

what is there to laugh ? oh...i get it....Jehadists always laugh when the people are unhappy and/or kafirs are bombed....r u planning something for this Friday or the next Friday ?

by Impedimenta Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:51 pm

The main problem in india is a bloated public sector with high paying jobs and perks and where people literally goof off and take bribes.. thats one of the main reasons why they want new states.. new state = new state government jobs. none of these other political gains make any sense.

Although, creating more states may not be a bad idea provided it is really based on population/demographics/availability of resources as opposed to political reasons. Technically it could make the states more efficient because fewer people, in general implies fewer problems. The bigger problem I see is the issues between the states like water disputes, etc.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:32 pm

Impedimenta wrote:The main problem in india is a bloated public sector with high paying jobs and perks and where people literally goof off and take bribes.. thats one of the main reasons why they want new states.. new state = new state government jobs. none of these other political gains make any sense.

Although, creating more states may not be a bad idea provided it is really based on population/demographics/availability of resources as opposed to political reasons. Technically it could make the states more efficient because fewer people, in general implies fewer problems. The bigger problem I see is the issues between the states like water disputes, etc.

Exactemente Bonita

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:09 pm

Impedimenta wrote:The main problem in india is a bloated public sector with high paying jobs and perks and where people literally goof off and take bribes.. thats one of the main reasons why they want new states.. new state = new state government jobs. none of these other political gains make any sense.

Although, creating more states may not be a bad idea provided it is really based on population/demographics/availability of resources as opposed to political reasons. Technically it could make the states more efficient because fewer people, in general implies fewer problems. The bigger problem I see is the issues between the states like water disputes, etc.

I agree with you. Smaller states are fine if it's going to facilitate ease of administration. It should be done impartially, without any political gains and without hurting anyone's feelings or interests. The way the telangana thing happened shouldn't happen to any other state. So much bad blood and so many baseless allegations against non-T'ites! It all created a lot of hurt and anger. That is not nice.

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