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Post by Ponniyin Selvan Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:08 am

asking the Supreme court not to replace the existing prosecution lawyer of Karnataka high court and not allowing the judge from the court in that case to retire.   Smile  Looks like she has already paid a hefty amount for getting a positive judgement and does not want that to go waste. 

IMHO nowhere in the world,  an accused has asked for the lawyer or judge of her choice to oversee her case. Very strange and funny that the Supreme court even entertains the petitions.

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:31 am

Haha..only in the land of Amma.
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Post by Rishi Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:26 am

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:asking the Supreme court not to replace the existing prosecution lawyer of Karnataka high court and not allowing the judge from the court in that case to retire.   Smile  Looks like she has already paid a hefty amount for getting a positive judgement and does not want that to go waste. 

IMHO nowhere in the world,  an accused has asked for the lawyer or judge of her choice to oversee her case. Very strange and funny that the Supreme court even entertains the petitions.
The removal of the SPP seriously prejudiced the accused as defence had examined 99 witnesses, marked 384 documents and brought out the lacuna in the prosecution case, the petition said.

The change of the prosecutor would result in a “mis-trial” since the accused had already disclosed their defence by examining witnesses and marking exhibits. “Now, under the guise of appointing a new prosecutor, an attempt is made to reopen the case, with ulterior motives.”

The petition said the SPP was removed “only at the instance of the rival political party [DMK], which wields enormous influence on the ruling party in Karnataka which also is the ruling party of the Central Government. The rival party has been interfering with the prosecution right from the beginning. When they were unsuccessful in scuttling the trial in the courts they have resorted to this devious method of getting the prosecutor removed. The notification removing the SPP is completely arbitrary and politically motivated and shows that it has been passed only to satisfy the whims and fancies of the DMK whose support is extremely necessary for the continuance of the Central Government.”

The petitioners said: “Under the scheme of Cr.PC, a prosecutor is not a persecutor and is expected to act fairly and not at the dictates of political masters… The prerogative of appointing SPPs by the government is not absolute and the government cannot choose SPPs who have to act on their dictates.”

>>> a valid argument.

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Post by Rishi Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:41 am

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/on-jayalalithaas-plea-sc-asks-karnataka-not-to-appoint-new-spp/article5075265.ece

>>> Now the DMK clowns have egg on their face!

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:59 am

rishi -- why are you such a shill for JJ? she is just another corrupt politician. maybe a bit smoother than the DMK's goons.
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Post by Rishi Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:09 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:rishi -- why are you such a shill for JJ? she is just another corrupt politician. maybe a bit smoother than the DMK's goons.
Max,

Jayalalitha was corrupt during her first five years of administration. She did amass wealth. But she learnt her lessson. AFAIK she does not engage in thievery now and has been providing good governance for the last two of her terms in office.

Compared to what Karunanidhi and the other members of the DMK gang stole, her crimes look like a molehill. The only problem was that she failed to cover her tracks in her first term.

Are you aware when she was the leader of the opposition, Karunanidhi encouraged his thugs to strip and molest her in the assembly? Thankfully the AIADMK members came to her rescue just in time.

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Post by Hellsangel Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:31 pm

Rishi wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:rishi -- why are you such a shill for JJ? she is just another corrupt politician. maybe a bit smoother than the DMK's goons.
Max,

Jayalalitha was corrupt during her first five years of administration. She did amass wealth. But she learnt her lessson. AFAIK she does not engage in thievery now and has been providing good governance for the last two of her terms in office.

Compared to what Karunanidhi and the other members of the DMK gang stole, her crimes look like a molehill. The only problem was that she failed to cover her tracks in her first term.

Are you aware when she was the leader of the opposition, Karunanidhi encouraged his thugs to strip and molest her in the assembly? Thankfully the AIADMK members came to her rescue just in time.
Thankfully for the onlookers?
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Post by Rishi Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:39 pm

>>> I meant Thank GOD

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Post by Ponniyin Selvan Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:28 pm

Rishi wrote:
Ponniyin Selvan wrote:asking the Supreme court not to replace the existing prosecution lawyer of Karnataka high court and not allowing the judge from the court in that case to retire.   Smile  Looks like she has already paid a hefty amount for getting a positive judgement and does not want that to go waste. 

IMHO nowhere in the world,  an accused has asked for the lawyer or judge of her choice to oversee her case. Very strange and funny that the Supreme court even entertains the petitions.
The removal of the SPP seriously prejudiced the accused as defence had examined 99 witnesses, marked 384 documents and brought out the lacuna in the prosecution case, the petition said.

The change of the prosecutor would result in a “mis-trial” since the accused had already disclosed their defence by examining witnesses and marking exhibits. “Now, under the guise of appointing a new prosecutor, an attempt is made to reopen the case, with ulterior motives.”

The petition said the SPP was removed “only at the instance of the rival political party [DMK], which wields enormous influence on the ruling party in Karnataka which also is the ruling party of the Central Government. The rival party has been interfering with the prosecution right from the beginning. When they were unsuccessful in scuttling the trial in the courts they have resorted to this devious method of getting the prosecutor removed. The notification removing the SPP is completely arbitrary and politically motivated and shows that it has been passed only to satisfy the whims and fancies of the DMK whose support is extremely necessary for the continuance of the Central Government.”

The petitioners said: “Under the scheme of Cr.PC, a prosecutor is not a persecutor and is expected to act fairly and not at the dictates of political masters… The prerogative of appointing SPPs by the government is not absolute and the government cannot choose SPPs who have to act on their dictates.”ya

>>>  a valid argument.

Haha.. valid argument .. my foot.. this is not the first time SPP has changed in this case with a history of 17 years. Because the last SPP, Mr Acharya was not amenable to pressure, he was forced to resign by the previous BJP led govt. in Karnataka. 

We know that you are a Jayalalitha fan. Just for fun, what is your argument in support for Jayalalitha wanting the judge overseeing the case to not retire on his actual retirement date.  Smile

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Post by Ponniyin Selvan Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:33 pm

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:
Rishi wrote:
Ponniyin Selvan wrote:asking the Supreme court not to replace the existing prosecution lawyer of Karnataka high court and not allowing the judge from the court in that case to retire.   Smile  Looks like she has already paid a hefty amount for getting a positive judgement and does not want that to go waste. 

IMHO nowhere in the world,  an accused has asked for the lawyer or judge of her choice to oversee her case. Very strange and funny that the Supreme court even entertains the petitions.
The removal of the SPP seriously prejudiced the accused as defence had examined 99 witnesses, marked 384 documents and brought out the lacuna in the prosecution case, the petition said.

The change of the prosecutor would result in a “mis-trial” since the accused had already disclosed their defence by examining witnesses and marking exhibits. “Now, under the guise of appointing a new prosecutor, an attempt is made to reopen the case, with ulterior motives.”

The petition said the SPP was removed “only at the instance of the rival political party [DMK], which wields enormous influence on the ruling party in Karnataka which also is the ruling party of the Central Government. The rival party has been interfering with the prosecution right from the beginning. When they were unsuccessful in scuttling the trial in the courts they have resorted to this devious method of getting the prosecutor removed. The notification removing the SPP is completely arbitrary and politically motivated and shows that it has been passed only to satisfy the whims and fancies of the DMK whose support is extremely necessary for the continuance of the Central Government.”

The petitioners said: “Under the scheme of Cr.PC, a prosecutor is not a persecutor and is expected to act fairly and not at the dictates of political masters… The prerogative of appointing SPPs by the government is not absolute and the government cannot choose SPPs who have to act on their dictates.”ya

>>>  a valid argument.
Haha.. valid argument .. my foot.. this is not the first time SPP has changed in this case with a history of 17 years. Because the last SPP, Mr Acharya was not amenable to pressure, he was forced to resign by the previous BJP led govt. in Karnataka. 

We know that you are a Jayalalitha fan. Just for fun, what is your argument in support for Jayalalitha wanting the judge overseeing the case to not retire on his actual retirement date.  Smile

Further, the most likely reason for Jayalalitha wanting an earlier favorable judgement (she has dragged the case for one reason or the other for over 17 years) was to stake her claim for a big post (PM or Deputy PM) after the next parliamentary elections assuming she wins a considerable number of seats (that itself is not assured) and her rivals will claim this court case and not allow her to assume any post. Looks like she has invested a lot of money in the SPP and the retiring judge as well and does not want that to go waste, hence the strange request for an accused to get the prosecutor and judge of her choice.

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Post by rawemotions Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:18 am

>>assuming she wins a considerable number of seats (that itself is not assured) 
Yes, with DMDK possibly allying with DMK combine, the chances for ADMK combine look dicey. She needs to get DMDK back into the alliance.

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Post by Ponniyin Selvan Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:02 am

This website (tamil content) claims the deal was stuck at 350 crores with 50 crores going to the public prosecutor Bhavani singh and the rest to ?? .. for giving a favorable judgement to Jayalalitha in the wealth case. 

http://www.savukku.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1877:-22&catid=1:2010-07-12-16-58-06&Itemid=19

that's why the request from Jayalalitha for retaining the judge and the public prosecutor.

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