His most devoted fan can only be his number 2 fan, because Narendra Modi's number 1 fan will always be Narendra Modi.

by Guest Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:29 am

I wrote a few days ago about how his fans viewed Narendra Modi.
Today, let's look at how he sees himself. The question was raised quite recently but went unanswered.

A reporter asked him: "Why do you have only your pictures on all the Gujarat government websites? Why do your photographs appear so frequently?" These questions were valid because Modi appropriates all the credit, even for things like Narmada which happened before his time.

Modi did not answer the reporter and stayed silent. And what could have he said? Nothing.

Modi has an image of himself that is messianic, and that is coupled with the fact that he has a large ego. I say that with understatement. Actually Modi loves himself. His most devoted fan can only be his number 2 fan, because Narendra Modi's number 1 fan will always be Narendra Modi.

Here's how he describes himself on his own website: "great dreamer"; "remarkable ability"; "hard taskmaster"; "strict disciplinarian"; "amazing"; "realist"; "idealist"; "clarity of vision, sense of purpose, diligent perseverance"; "excellent organizational ability: "rich insight into human psychology"; "sheer strength of character and courage".

Should you not let other people say these things about yourself? Not if you are the Lord of Gujarat. The fact is that if there is a man Narendra Modi respects, admires and defers to, it is Narendra Modi. Proof of this adorns the Gujarat government's official portals, which are embarrassingly obsequious. Think of them as digital versions of Mayawati's monuments to herself. Of government formation after the last election, the main government site said: "skilfully wading his way through the onslaught of a massive slander campaign... Mr Modi dealt a convincing and crushing defeat... the magnitude of which stunned friends and foes alike."

Why inflict this on those visiting the portal for work, like foreign investors? The fact is: Modi cannot help himself. When one is so supremely talented, so dazzlingly faceted, what is one to do? As a man, he is "popular and progressive, a poet and author of three books, tech-savvy and a true democrat", according to the same site. This is untrue. In reality, he trusts few of his colleagues and is easily threatened. He has no enthusiasm for internal democracy, leave alone for sharing power. He still skips functions because the RSS has rehabilitated one of his enemies, Sanjay Joshi. In his mind, he is the Sun in India's solar system.

His photographs have been taken off from the government's sites for now, but that is only because of the Election Commission's code of conduct. They will be back after he wins and those who have visited these websites or visited Gujarat will know why Modi was asked the question by the reporter. There is no escaping hoardings of Modi posing heroically all across the state. And now the latest is his naming the BJP television channel after himself. It is called NaMo TV. The words NaMo are from his initials in Gujarati, but they also mean "to bow before".

That is the sort of thing Modi loves, and so do his fans.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/allaboutnarendramodi/the-narendra-modi-praise-and-personality-cult/article1-954956.aspx

by confuzzled dude Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:03 pm

That I have to agree, he only seems to keep harping on about his past accomplishments in Gujarat nothing about how he is going to improve India's economy. For starters Gujarat != India.

by smArtha Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:07 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:That I have to agree, he only seems to keep harping on about his past accomplishments in Gujarat nothing about how he is going to improve India's economy. For starters Gujarat != India.

Right and we are seeing the other Prime candidate(s) paint a clear picture of their vision and execution?

by confuzzled dude Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:56 pm

smArtha wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:That I have to agree, he only seems to keep harping on about his past accomplishments in Gujarat nothing about how he is going to improve India's economy. For starters Gujarat != India.
Right and we are seeing the other Prime candidate(s) paint a clear picture of their vision and execution?

at least they're not being narcissistic.

by smArtha Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:31 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
smArtha wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:That I have to agree, he only seems to keep harping on about his past accomplishments in Gujarat nothing about how he is going to improve India's economy. For starters Gujarat != India.
Right and we are seeing the other Prime candidate(s) paint a clear picture of their vision and execution?
at least they're not being narcissistic.

And that is an essential qualification to be a PM candidate?!!

by confuzzled dude Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:07 pm

smArtha wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
smArtha wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:That I have to agree, he only seems to keep harping on about his past accomplishments in Gujarat nothing about how he is going to improve India's economy. For starters Gujarat != India.
Right and we are seeing the other Prime candidate(s) paint a clear picture of their vision and execution?
at least they're not being narcissistic.
And that is an essential qualification to be a PM candidate?!!

I think so, in general, me first types possess dictatorial tendencies

by smArtha Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:39 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
I think so, in general, me first types possess dictatorial tendencies

Have you seen emergency imposed in Gujarat in over 10 years as was done by IG at Center?!!

by Guest Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:37 pm

smArtha wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
I think so, in general, me first types possess dictatorial tendencies
Have you seen emergency imposed in Gujarat in over 10 years as was done by IG at Center?!!

The fact that sedition cases were filed against journalists in Gujarat who dared to criticize Modi shows that an undeclared emergency exists in Gujarat today.

by smArtha Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:32 pm

Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
I think so, in general, me first types possess dictatorial tendencies
Have you seen emergency imposed in Gujarat in over 10 years as was done by IG at Center?!!
The fact that sedition cases were filed against journalists in Gujarat who dared to criticize Modi shows that an undeclared emergency exists in Gujarat today.

And what is happening to those channels who are publishing opinion polls not to the liking of the ruling establishment at the centre?! Isn't that also a state of emergency?!!

by Guest Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:59 pm

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
I think so, in general, me first types possess dictatorial tendencies
Have you seen emergency imposed in Gujarat in over 10 years as was done by IG at Center?!!
The fact that sedition cases were filed against journalists in Gujarat who dared to criticize Modi shows that an undeclared emergency exists in Gujarat today.
And what is happening to those channels who are publishing opinion polls not to the liking of the ruling establishment at the centre?! Isn't that also a state of emergency?!!

The Election Commission--an independent body--wanted to ban opinion polls. Cong and many other parties agreed to the ban since these polls were making wild predictions and there was concern these polls could be misused by vested interests. the EC banned the polls. BJP is free to approach the courts in this matter.

by smArtha Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:27 pm

Rashmun wrote:The Election Commission--an independent body--wanted to ban opinion polls. Cong and many other parties agreed to the ban since these polls were making wild predictions and there was concern these polls could be misused by vested interests. the EC banned the polls. BJP is free to approach the courts in this matter.

Right and those sedition charged journalists you mentioned cannot approach courts for some reasons.

by Guest Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:30 pm

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:The Election Commission--an independent body--wanted to ban opinion polls. Cong and many other parties agreed to the ban since these polls were making wild predictions and there was concern these polls could be misused by vested interests. the EC banned the polls. BJP is free to approach the courts in this matter.
Right and those sedition charged journalists you mentioned cannot approach courts for some reasons.

Sedition means treason. Is Narendra Modi some kind of Ruler or King of Gujarat that criticizing him amounts to treason ?

by smArtha Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:26 pm

Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:The Election Commission--an independent body--wanted to ban opinion polls. Cong and many other parties agreed to the ban since these polls were making wild predictions and there was concern these polls could be misused by vested interests. the EC banned the polls. BJP is free to approach the courts in this matter.
Right and those sedition charged journalists you mentioned cannot approach courts for some reasons.
Sedition means treason. Is Narendra Modi some kind of Ruler or King of Gujarat that criticizing him amounts to treason ?

Was JN/IG/RG and their family some kind of monarchs of India that they impose Emergency and perpetuate dynastic rule on the party and country?!! And they confer Bharat Ratnas on themselves, create exclusive Samadhis for their lineage in National Capital. And worse still have their foot soldiers threaten icons like Lata Mangeshkar that they;d withdraw conferred state awards in protest against supporting their opposition?!!

by Guest Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:58 am

smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Rashmun wrote:The Election Commission--an independent body--wanted to ban opinion polls. Cong and many other parties agreed to the ban since these polls were making wild predictions and there was concern these polls could be misused by vested interests. the EC banned the polls. BJP is free to approach the courts in this matter.
Right and those sedition charged journalists you mentioned cannot approach courts for some reasons.
Sedition means treason. Is Narendra Modi some kind of Ruler or King of Gujarat that criticizing him amounts to treason ?
Was JN/IG/RG and their family some kind of monarchs of India that they impose Emergency and perpetuate dynastic rule on the party and country?!! And they confer Bharat Ratnas on themselves, create exclusive Samadhis for their lineage in National Capital. And worse still have their foot soldiers threaten icons like Lata Mangeshkar that they;d withdraw conferred state awards in protest against supporting their opposition?!!

It was a low level Cong functionary who made the statement about Lataji. Senior Cong leaders like Digvijay have said that she is entitled to her opinion. I am sure the low level Cong functionary who criticized Lata will be suitably reprimanded for speaking out of turn. I will point out that the senior BJP leader, spokesperson, and member of parliament Chandan Mitra had made a similar demand that Amartya Sen should return his Bharat Ratna--after Sen criticized Modi. Of course, Mitra withdrew his remarks after the uproar that followed.

Regarding having samadhis in national capital, it is because they were assassinated while serving as Prime Ministers that there exist samadhis for Indra Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. There is no samadhi for Pandit Nehru.

Regarding the element of Dynasty in the Congress party, consider the fact that Sonia is an elected Lok Sabha Member of Parliament who the Congress has accepted as their leader. Now compare this with the fact that in BJP, it is the RSS that calls the shots. RSS decides who will be BJP president, who will be BJP PM candidate, and so forth. Given all this do you think it would be appropriate if the RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat and other senior RSS leaders should contest elections ? I would have no problem if the RSS consisted of elected representatives wielding power over BJP. But unelected people holding sway in a political party is dangerous for Indian democracy.

by smArtha Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:11 am

Rashmun wrote:
smArtha wrote:Was JN/IG/RG and their family some kind of monarchs of India that they impose Emergency and perpetuate dynastic rule on the party and country?!! And they confer Bharat Ratnas on themselves, create exclusive Samadhis for their lineage in National Capital. And worse still have their foot soldiers threaten icons like Lata Mangeshkar that they;d withdraw conferred state awards in protest against supporting their opposition?!!
Regarding having samadhis in national capital, it is because they were assassinated while serving as Prime Ministers that there exist samadhis for Indra Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. There is no samadhi for Pandit Nehru.

Regarding the element of Dynasty in the Congress party, consider the fact that Sonia is an elected Lok Sabha Member of Parliament who the Congress has accepted as their leader. Now compare this with the fact that in BJP, it is the RSS that calls the shots. RSS decides who will be BJP president, who will be BJP PM candidate, and so forth. Given all this do you think it would be appropriate if the RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat and other senior RSS leaders should contest elections ? I would have no problem if the RSS consisted of elected representatives wielding power over BJP. But unelected people holding sway in a political party is dangerous for Indian democracy.

Pt. Nehru's samadhi is called Shanti Van and is very much in Delhi. But no similar privilege to PVNR, Morarji Desai and others. And Bharat Ratna to Indira before Patel, Amdbedkar, Abul Kalam Azad is because Indira's contribution by 1971 is far superior to the sacrifices and contribution by the above freedom fighters.

In your elaborate response, I can see that you had very opportunistically evaded the Emergency issue which was indisputably an absolute murder of democracy and reign of a Dictator/Monarch in modern India.

And for dynasty being democratically elected - they were nominated and forced on the party and people first and then democratic sanction secured. And in a first-past-the-post style multi-party electoral system - being elected means you had the support of at the most 25-35% of votes cast out of a 60-70% of total electorate exercising the franchise. This translates to about 20% of the total electorate sanctioning the candidate. And to be a leader of the house you just need about 50% of such elected representatives. So even with about 10% cross country sanction one can become the leader of the house. So much for you claims of dynasty having people sanction. Now a similar 10-20% wanting Modi is being highlighted as not having adequate people support.

by Guest Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:14 pm

smArtha wrote:Pt. Nehru's samadhi is called Shanti Van and is very much in Delhi. But no similar privilege to PVNR, Morarji Desai and others. And Bharat Ratna to Indira before Patel, Amdbedkar, Abul Kalam Azad is because Indira's contribution by 1971 is far superior to the sacrifices and contribution by the above freedom fighters.

In your elaborate response, I can see that you had very opportunistically evaded the Emergency issue which was indisputably an absolute murder of democracy and reign of a Dictator/Monarch in modern India.

And for dynasty being democratically elected - they were nominated and forced on the party and people first and then democratic sanction secured. And in a first-past-the-post style multi-party electoral system - being elected means you had the support of at the most 25-35% of votes cast out of a 60-70% of total electorate exercising the franchise. This translates to about 20% of the total electorate sanctioning the candidate. And to be a leader of the house you just need about 50% of such elected representatives. So even with about 10% cross country sanction one can become the leader of the house. So much for you claims of dynasty having people sanction. Now a similar 10-20% wanting Modi is being highlighted as not having adequate people support.

Can you confirm if Pandit Nehru was cremated and his remains interred at this Shanti Bhavan; or whether it is just a momento for him ? I have read his will where he says he wants his body to be cremated and the ashes dispersed in the Himalayas and in the Ganges. In other words, he never wanted any samadhi for himself. If a grateful nation built a momento for Panditji in the national capital it should not be considered a big deal. Panditji was the strongest proponent of secularism and he had a big role to play in ensuring that India remained a secular country.

Sonia won her seat not by a simple majority but by a thumping majority.

LUCKNOW: Every single vote counts in the world's largest democracy. Even as half the state did not vote, there were many who secured noteworthy winning margins. As many as 13 MPs defeated their nearest contenders by at least one lakh votes.

Of these, UPA chief Sonia Gandhi tops the list with a winning margin of 3.72 lakh votes. The UPA chief defeated her nearest contestant by 2.49 lakh votes in the last Lok Sabha elections. She is followed by her son Rahul Gandhi who crushed his nearest rival by 3.33 lakh votes. His margin in the last LS was 2.90 lakh votes.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-05-18/lucknow/28202068_1_lakh-votes-margin-congress-candidate

Emergency was a dark chapter in India's history and Indra Gandhi had apologized for it. The people of India accepted her apology and voted her back to power. Indra's contribution was that in 1971 she played a role in Bangladesh breaking away from Pakistan. BJP leaders like Atal Bihari Vajpayee hailed Indra Gandhi as Goddess Durga. Bal Thackeray also bowed his head before Indra and paid tribute to her.

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