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Post by indophile Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:21 pm

Already there are problems with proximity of temples, mosques, and churches at some places in India. They should first resolve those problems before creating a new one.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/plea-against-islamic-varsity-in-tirupati/article5483915.ece?homepage=true

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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:10 pm

indophile wrote:Already there are problems with proximity of temples, mosques, and churches at some places in India. They should first resolve those problems before creating a new one.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/plea-against-islamic-varsity-in-tirupati/article5483915.ece?homepage=true

On the one hand we want govt. abolish deplorable caste system OTOH .....

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:01 pm

indophile wrote:Already there are problems with proximity of temples, mosques, and churches at some places in India. They should first resolve those problems before creating a new one.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/plea-against-islamic-varsity-in-tirupati/article5483915.ece?homepage=true

This came about a year ago and at that time, it was belittled as nothing but a tutorial school of some sort for this and that and supposedly even some muslim "Leaders" were opposed to it.

Well...as always the usual sneakish way to push the agenda of the fifth columnists.

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Post by indophile Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:59 pm

When you go into Rameswaram you see a mosque and church first. Now when you go up to Tirupati you may come across this Islamic "school/university" first.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:38 pm

indophile wrote:When you go into Rameswaram you see a mosque and church first. Now when you go up to Tirupati you may come across this Islamic "school/university" first.

That, according to maulana Rashmunullah and his friend Gaywala, is hindu-muslim synthesized secularism.

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Post by Guest Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:40 pm

indophile wrote:When you go into Rameswaram you see a mosque and church first. Now when you go up to Tirupati you may come across this Islamic "school/university" first.

now in my opinion this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Remember how hinduism absorbed budhism? by declaring Budha to be a hindu god.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:15 am

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indophile wrote:When you go into Rameswaram you see a mosque and church first. Now when you go up to Tirupati you may come across this Islamic "school/university" first.

now in my opinion this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Remember how hinduism absorbed budhism? by declaring Budha to be a hindu god.

Just because you domesticated a buffalo or a dog does not mean you can domesticate a snake. Only naive PiSSers will believe that.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:22 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
indophile wrote:When you go into Rameswaram you see a mosque and church first. Now when you go up to Tirupati you may come across this Islamic "school/university" first.

now in my opinion this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Remember how hinduism absorbed budhism? by declaring Budha to be a hindu god.

Just because you domesticated a buffalo or a dog does not mean you can domesticate a snake.  Only naive PiSSers will believe that.

Vavar (pronounced Vaa-var= "vav-vindavar")meaning vavu = "moon" vindavar= "who splits", also known as Vavaraswami was a Muslim saint (some believe "Muhammed Nabi"himself) who became a devotee of Lord Ayyappan. There is a shrine dedicated to Vavaraswami at Sabarimala, as well as Varaswamis mosque at Erumely next to an Ayyappa temple. The devotion of Vavaraswami to Ayyappan and the key role that the Islamic Masjid has in the Ayyappa Pilgrimage, highlights the communal harmony in Kerala. The devotion of Vavaraswami also highlights the relevance of Ayyappa devotion for members of all faiths, and the equality shown to all, whether they are Muslims, Hindus or Christians.

There are many legends about Vavar and his association with Ayyappa. Some believe that Vavar was a Muslim saint who migrated from Arabia to India with the intention of spreading Islam. Others suggest that he was a warrior who reached the shore of Kerala as a pirate in a ship to loot and plunder. During his encounter with Lord Ayyappa. Ayyappa also followed Vavar. Since then Vavar became a close associate of Lord Ayyappa and helped him in the wars in the mountainous region. As time passed, Vavar too became an ardent devotee of Ayyappa just like Kaduthaswami and came to be known as Vavar. The old sword on the wall of the Vavar shrine symbolises the eminence of Vavar as a great warrior. It is believed that the Lord Ayyappa himself instructed the King of Pandala Desam to build a mosque for Vavar at Erumely in Kottayam District and a shrine at Sabarimala.

Erumely is the gateway to Sabarimala, the hillock shrine of Lord Ayyappa. This place is very famous for 'Pettathullal', a kind of mass spiritual dance perform by Ayyappa devotees. Pettathullal is performed in the Makaravilaku season, i.e., from mid December to mid January every year to commemorate the annihilation of a 'Mahishi' by Lord Ayyappa...

En route the pilgrimage to Sabarimala during the makaravilakku season almost all of the Ayyappa devotees will come to Erumely and perform the ritual. Pettathullal starts from the small temple situated at the heart of Erumely town known as 'Kochambalam'. From there the dance procession advance to the Muslim mosque called 'Vavar palli' opposite to Kochambalam and the devotees worship 'Vavarswamy'.

Finally the procession ends up at Dharmasastha temple known as 'Valliyambalam'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vavar

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:32 am

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
indophile wrote:When you go into Rameswaram you see a mosque and church first. Now when you go up to Tirupati you may come across this Islamic "school/university" first.

now in my opinion this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Remember how hinduism absorbed budhism? by declaring Budha to be a hindu god.

Just because you domesticated a buffalo or a dog does not mean you can domesticate a snake.  Only naive PiSSers will believe that.

Vavar (pronounced Vaa-var= "vav-vindavar")meaning vavu = "moon" vindavar= "who splits", also known as Vavaraswami was a Muslim saint (some believe "Muhammed Nabi"himself) who became a devotee of Lord Ayyappan. There is a shrine dedicated to Vavaraswami at Sabarimala, as well as Varaswamis mosque at Erumely next to an Ayyappa temple. The devotion of Vavaraswami to Ayyappan and the key role that the Islamic Masjid has in the Ayyappa Pilgrimage, highlights the communal harmony in Kerala. The devotion of Vavaraswami also highlights the relevance of Ayyappa devotion for members of all faiths, and the equality shown to all, whether they are Muslims, Hindus or Christians.

There are many legends about Vavar and his association with Ayyappa. Some believe that Vavar was a Muslim saint who migrated from Arabia to India with the intention of spreading Islam. Others suggest that he was a warrior who reached the shore of Kerala as a pirate in a ship to loot and plunder. During his encounter with Lord Ayyappa. Ayyappa also followed Vavar. Since then Vavar became a close associate of Lord Ayyappa and helped him in the wars in the mountainous region. As time passed, Vavar too became an ardent devotee of Ayyappa just like Kaduthaswami and came to be known as Vavar. The old sword on the wall of the Vavar shrine symbolises the eminence of Vavar as a great warrior. It is believed that the Lord Ayyappa himself instructed the King of Pandala Desam to build a mosque for Vavar at Erumely in Kottayam District and a shrine at Sabarimala.

Erumely is the gateway to Sabarimala, the hillock shrine of Lord Ayyappa. This place is very famous for 'Pettathullal', a kind of mass spiritual dance perform by Ayyappa devotees. Pettathullal is performed in the Makaravilaku season, i.e., from mid December to mid January every year to commemorate the annihilation of a 'Mahishi' by Lord Ayyappa...

En route the pilgrimage to Sabarimala during the makaravilakku season almost all of the Ayyappa devotees will come to Erumely and perform the ritual. Pettathullal starts from the small temple situated at the heart of Erumely town known as 'Kochambalam'. From there the dance procession advance to the Muslim mosque called 'Vavar palli' opposite to Kochambalam and the devotees worship 'Vavarswamy'.

Finally the procession ends up at Dharmasastha temple known as 'Valliyambalam'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vavar

Just dont cut/vomit without reading it or knowing anything about it.... Do you even know/witnessed/participated in any Aiyappan Yatra? Stop spewing anything that is on the net.

hindus visit Nagoore Darga, Velankanni mary Church, and msulims and Christians visit Sabarimala and even Gurvayoor. Those things have not prevented muslims from being radicalised, make them think of their hindu ancestors or allow muslim women to marry hindu men.

So shove your synthesis crap up where it rightfully belongs.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:39 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
indophile wrote:When you go into Rameswaram you see a mosque and church first. Now when you go up to Tirupati you may come across this Islamic "school/university" first.

now in my opinion this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Remember how hinduism absorbed budhism? by declaring Budha to be a hindu god.

Just because you domesticated a buffalo or a dog does not mean you can domesticate a snake.  Only naive PiSSers will believe that.

Vavar (pronounced Vaa-var= "vav-vindavar")meaning vavu = "moon" vindavar= "who splits", also known as Vavaraswami was a Muslim saint (some believe "Muhammed Nabi"himself) who became a devotee of Lord Ayyappan. There is a shrine dedicated to Vavaraswami at Sabarimala, as well as Varaswamis mosque at Erumely next to an Ayyappa temple. The devotion of Vavaraswami to Ayyappan and the key role that the Islamic Masjid has in the Ayyappa Pilgrimage, highlights the communal harmony in Kerala. The devotion of Vavaraswami also highlights the relevance of Ayyappa devotion for members of all faiths, and the equality shown to all, whether they are Muslims, Hindus or Christians.

There are many legends about Vavar and his association with Ayyappa. Some believe that Vavar was a Muslim saint who migrated from Arabia to India with the intention of spreading Islam. Others suggest that he was a warrior who reached the shore of Kerala as a pirate in a ship to loot and plunder. During his encounter with Lord Ayyappa. Ayyappa also followed Vavar. Since then Vavar became a close associate of Lord Ayyappa and helped him in the wars in the mountainous region. As time passed, Vavar too became an ardent devotee of Ayyappa just like Kaduthaswami and came to be known as Vavar. The old sword on the wall of the Vavar shrine symbolises the eminence of Vavar as a great warrior. It is believed that the Lord Ayyappa himself instructed the King of Pandala Desam to build a mosque for Vavar at Erumely in Kottayam District and a shrine at Sabarimala.

Erumely is the gateway to Sabarimala, the hillock shrine of Lord Ayyappa. This place is very famous for 'Pettathullal', a kind of mass spiritual dance perform by Ayyappa devotees. Pettathullal is performed in the Makaravilaku season, i.e., from mid December to mid January every year to commemorate the annihilation of a 'Mahishi' by Lord Ayyappa...

En route the pilgrimage to Sabarimala during the makaravilakku season almost all of the Ayyappa devotees will come to Erumely and perform the ritual. Pettathullal starts from the small temple situated at the heart of Erumely town known as 'Kochambalam'. From there the dance procession advance to the Muslim mosque called 'Vavar palli' opposite to Kochambalam and the devotees worship 'Vavarswamy'.

Finally the procession ends up at Dharmasastha temple known as 'Valliyambalam'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vavar

Just dont cut/vomit without reading it or knowing anything about it.... Do you even know/witnessed/participated in any Aiyappan Yatra?  Stop spewing anything that is on the net.

hindus visit Nagoore Darga, Velankanni mary Church, and msulims and Christians visit Sabarimala and even Gurvayoor.  Those things have not prevented muslims from being radicalised, make them think of their hindu ancestors or allow muslim women to marry hindu men.

So shove your synthesis crap up where it rightfully belongs.

there are liberal muslims and fundamentalist muslims. the need of the hour is for hindus to unite with liberal muslims and isolate fundamentalist muslims and fundamentalist hindus and also fundamentalists of any other religion.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:42 am

i have not personally participated in an Ayappa yatra although i have seen Ayappa devotees on railway stations in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka (distinguishable because they wear black colored clothes). I also have a hindu friend who is an Ayappa devotee and who fasts for one month every year for Ayappa. now that i think about it the fasting for one month  every year for Ayappa seems reminiscent of the muslim fasting of one month every year for Ramadan/Ramzaan.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:44 am

Rashmun wrote:i have not personally participated in an Ayappa yatra although i have seen Ayappa devotees on railway stations in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka (distinguishable because they wear black colored clothes). I also have a hindu friend who is an Ayappa devotee and who fasts for one month every year for Ayappa. now that i think about it the fasting for one month  every year for Ayappa seems reminiscent of the muslim fasting of one month every year for Ramadan/Ramzaan.

the Ayappa-Muslims connection can potentially be a subject for a PhD thesis.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:28 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:i have not personally participated in an Ayappa yatra although i have seen Ayappa devotees on railway stations in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka (distinguishable because they wear black colored clothes). I also have a hindu friend who is an Ayappa devotee and who fasts for one month every year for Ayappa. now that i think about it the fasting for one month  every year for Ayappa seems reminiscent of the muslim fasting of one month every year for Ramadan/Ramzaan.

the Ayappa-Muslims connection can potentially be a subject for a PhD thesis.

Good...why dont you take it up? You already know who your advisor is....sound him out. After your PhD you could marry a Dy Consul-General of Pakistani Consulate.

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