Jagan Reddy's visit to Tirupati Temple

kinnera wrote:There have been demands by some christians that churches shld be allowed to be build on the tirumala hills. Right now, all the seven hills belong to TTD. When YSR was alive, there were rumors that YSR wanted to bring the seven hills under govt's control, have only the top two hills for TTD and declare the rest to the public, thereby allowing the building of churches on the tirumala hills. Don't know what he'd have done had he been alive.
YSR family is clearly not hindu. They don't believe in hindu gods. So why this drama in visiting hindu temples? Pretty disrespectful.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

kinnera wrote:There have been demands by some christians that churches shld be allowed to be build on the tirumala hills. Right now, all the seven hills belong to TTD. When YSR was alive, there were rumors that YSR wanted to bring the seven hills under govt's control, have only the top two hills for TTD and declare the rest to the public, thereby allowing the building of churches on the tirumala hills. Don't know what he'd have done had he been alive.
YSR family is clearly not hindu. They don't believe in hindu gods. So why this drama in visiting hindu temples? Pretty disrespectful.

As long as idiots are alive, there will always be a Master to exploit them.

Maria S wrote:I have not been to Thirupathi..but, have been to many temples all over South India..and have never been asked to sign any document proclaiming my faith. I/We did not worship, but behaved appropriately, showed respect- the priest almost offered prasadham (can't think of any incident- where it was not offered)..and always recieved it, so did other Non-Christians.

Political aspects/motivations in this news story aside (which are obvious)..these rules/policies in temples, which exist are interesting.

doofus_maximus wrote:Indo, Lungi is very different from Veshti. Lungi AFAIK will not be allowed to be worn inside any temple.

Maria S wrote:Kinnera,

I certainly understand the historical context, sensitivity and security related issues. And I really can't comment on what Hindus or others should do about their places of worship- found them interesting, that's all.

But, I can comment about Christians and Churches..and how they should open up Churches..to everyone without any exceptions, expectation or demands. Unless someone behaves badly (that certainly includes Christians!) is disrespectful or desecrates holy symbols- they should absolutely be allowed.

I just read what you posted:

"Such temples are clearly not for ones who believe that their religion is the one and only true religion, the god of their scriptures is the one and only true god, their scriptures are the one and only true words of god, and their way is the one and only way to reach god."



Oh, wow! Obviously, you mean Christians.. and temples are not for us- and we should stay away-should not be allowed.

You are entitled to your views..my view, as I said above, anyone from any religion or someone with no religion- no matter what their beliefs may be (even mass murderers), should be allowed inside a Church..if they wanted to..simply come inside and quietly attend a service or pray.

*I would certainly condemn any Church- which does not allow that.

Maria S wrote:Ok Kinnera.

Don't know much about Jagan- except, some basic info about his well-known father. He does not represent all Christians, and I don't represent all Christians!

You and I may have very different views about faith, religion and access to places of worship- for ALL. Think we'll will leave it at that!

Tracy Whitney wrote:who is Jagan Reddy?

Tracy Whitney wrote:who is Jagan Reddy?

doofus_maximus wrote:When YSR visited Tirupati did he sign these things or it is getting blown out of proportion because it is Jagan who is doing it?

Maria S wrote:Kinnera,

I certainly understand the historical context, sensitivity and security related issues. And I really can't comment on what Hindus or others should do about their places of worship- found them interesting, that's all.

But, I can comment about Christians and Churches..and how they should open up Churches..to everyone without any exceptions, expectation or demands. Unless someone behaves badly (that certainly includes Christians!) is disrespectful or desecrates holy symbols- they should absolutely be allowed.

I just read what you posted:

"Such temples are clearly not for ones who believe that their religion is the one and only true religion, the god of their scriptures is the one and only true god, their scriptures are the one and only true words of god, and their way is the one and only way to reach god."



Oh, wow! Obviously, you mean Christians.. and temples are not for us- and we should stay away-should not be allowed.

You are entitled to your views..my view, as I said above, anyone from any religion or someone with no religion- no matter what their beliefs may be (even mass murderers), should be allowed inside a Church..if they wanted to..simply come inside and quietly attend a service or pray.

I am for all temples to open up for everyone - no exception (except the iSalamis to be double checked for bombs hidden in their shoes and pants).

But, a things stand, Puri, Guruvayoor, etc still follow strict rule that no non-hindu should enter those temples. Of course any Indian muslim and christian does not look any different and it is based on honor system. If one were to openly acknowledge his non-hindu faith, he will not be allowed.

* he also = She
** Whites obviously are recognizable and assumed to be non hindu
*** even if the whites wear Janiwar like hte Hare Krishnas they are denied entry - bcz in strict hinduism no outsider can be converted into a hindu (similar to the orthodox and hasidic judaism.

**** Guruvayoor and Puri stopped even the mighty Indira that too, during the emergency period.
***** Budhists, Sikhs, Jains are allowed in these temples as they are considered part of Hinduism.
****** hopefully Jesus also will be converted to hinduism and called the tenth vishnu avatar in another 200 years.


*I would certainly condemn any Church- which does not allow that.