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Post by Rishi Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:41 pm

This week, I had the privilege of releasing Madhu Kishwar's book, Modi, Muslims and Media. Kishwar has done great service by revealing to the public several facts that had been concealed from them deliberately, in a conspiracy between Modi's political opponents who fear him, but control the mechanisms of government, and sections of the media dedicated to divisive communal forces, blessed by certain external powers that seek to ensure that India remains the sick man of Asia forever. We have witnessed this conspiracy during British rule, and we are witnessing it today.

The facts relate to the Godhra incident and its unfortunate aftermath, and the man, Narendra Modi, his political background before he became Chief Minister, his performance as Chief Minister, and his actual interventions after the unfortunate Godhra train burning and the riots that followed.

These facts have been concealed from Indians by the media machinery of the Congress and its so called "secular", but actually communal allies, and snuffed out by influential sections of the public media who for reasons that became partners of the UPA in the demonisation of Modi. I have repeatedly stated in my articles during the last few years that one of the greatest successes of the UPA government has been its Goebbelsian demonisation of Modi. It lasted for a while, but it is clear that retribution is around the corner, and some of his greatest hired detractors, like Teesta Setalvad, are getting their just deserts. A large section of the public, especially the Muslim community have also realised that they have been taken for a ride by the Congress, which kept shoving false information down their throats, while they themselves were plundering the country, all the while perpetuating a schism between the Muslims and the majority community, to suit their political ends.

Let the people know what really happened at Godhra. The carnage on the Sabarmati Express, which was carrying karsevaks from Ayodhya to Ahmedabad, took place on 27 February 2002 at 8.30 a.m., as it moved about 500 yards from Godhra station and was stopped at a signal, through repeated chain pulling by the conspirators. A crowd of around 2,000 Muslims started stoning the train mercilessly and setting fire to the coaches, having prepared the previous night with petroleum and acid bombs. Compartment doors were locked from outside, and the karsevaks were trapped in the fire and smoke. 59 persons, including women and children, in four coaches, were gruesomely burnt alive.

The false defence put up by the criminals, aided and abetted by the Congress, when it came to power, was that it was an accidental fire, caused by a stove or an electrical short circuit. An intelligent fire, certainly, singling out only the karsevaks and their families. Do Indians know who defended the accused in the Godhra train burning incident? It was the Gujarat Pradesh Congress Committee, and the Congress proxy NGO Jan Sangharsh Manch. The criminal conspiracy between Godhra train attackers and the Congress, and their complete lack of sympathy for the Godhra victims, needs no further explanation. Does their being Hindu have something to do with it?

Kishwar informs us of the troubled history of Godhra, and its long history of communal riots from 1925 till 1992, post Independence, all under the Congress government. The worst riots in post partition India happened in 1969 in Ahmedabad where 5,000 Muslims were killed with the Congress in power under Chief Minister Hitendrabhai Desai. Does anyone ask about what action was taken against the perpetrators, what charge sheets were filed? In 1985, under Congress Chief Minister Madhavji Solanki, again there was a major communal riot preceded by smaller ones, with curfew lasting over 200 days. 1987 and 1990 again saw communal riots in Gujarat, under Congress Chief Ministers Amar Singh Chowdhery and Chimanbhai Patel. Let the people judge for themselves who the real Maut ka Saudagar is.

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis/india-must-know-the-real-modi



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Post by Rishi Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:47 pm

Many people may not be aware that my dear daughter Rani adopted from an orphanage a small Muslim boy of 6 months, and brought him up. My grandson uses my name, Ali Jethmalani, and even though he wanted to become Hindu, we counselled him to come of age and then choose. I need not say anymore.

>>>Says something about Mr. Ram Jethmalani himself!

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:21 pm

With respect to Jethmalani's presentation of the views of Madhu Kishwar, i have to say i do not have any respect for Kishwar for many reasons. Here are some of them:

1. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-madhu-kishwar-in-dock-as-media-war-erupts-over-jawaharlal-nehru-university-scholars-suicide-1939392
2. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-11-28/news/44546881_1_defamation-case-defamation-suit-officer-pradeep

more details with respect to the economic times article here:
http://www.truthofgujarat.com/pradeep-sharma-files-criminal-defamation-case-madhu-kishwar-hearing-5th-december/

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Kishwar used to be a leftist journalist for many years who used to be virulently anti-Modi. The allegation is that a monetary exchange took place to get her to become a rabidly pro-Modi journalist.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:55 pm

Rashmun wrote:With respect to Jethmalani's presentation of the views of Madhu Kishwar, i have to say i do not have any respect for Kishwar for many reasons. Here are some of them:

1. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-madhu-kishwar-in-dock-as-media-war-erupts-over-jawaharlal-nehru-university-scholars-suicide-1939392
2. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-11-28/news/44546881_1_defamation-case-defamation-suit-officer-pradeep

more details with respect to the economic times article here:
http://www.truthofgujarat.com/pradeep-sharma-files-criminal-defamation-case-madhu-kishwar-hearing-5th-december/

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Kishwar used to be a leftist journalist for many years who used to be virulently anti-Modi. The allegation is that a monetary exchange took place to get her to become a rabidly pro-Modi journalist.
It is more likely that money transfer from CONmen dried up and she suddenly opened her eyes and realized that there is more to life than ars-licking CONartists for money.

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Post by rawemotions Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:48 pm

Rashmun wrote:With respect to Jethmalani's presentation of the views of Madhu Kishwar, i have to say i do not have any respect for Kishwar for many reasons. Here are some of them:

1. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-madhu-kishwar-in-dock-as-media-war-erupts-over-jawaharlal-nehru-university-scholars-suicide-1939392
2. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-11-28/news/44546881_1_defamation-case-defamation-suit-officer-pradeep

more details with respect to the economic times article here:
http://www.truthofgujarat.com/pradeep-sharma-files-criminal-defamation-case-madhu-kishwar-hearing-5th-december/

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Kishwar used to be a leftist journalist for many years who used to be virulently anti-Modi. The allegation is that a monetary exchange took place to get her to become a rabidly pro-Modi journalist.
i do not understand media. Modi till today has not discriminated in offering government programs to Hindus alone. Congress & SP have all along made programs exclusively for Muslims. Now tell me who is Secular. Clearly Modi and BJP since they adhere to the constitution of India. Case Closed.

Now regarding you, how did you think Godhra Happened ? Clearly the Muslim Majority town has planned the incident to torch coaches bolting it from outside. Many of the accused were alleged to be Congress party members.  Why did they do that ?

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:57 pm

rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:With respect to Jethmalani's presentation of the views of Madhu Kishwar, i have to say i do not have any respect for Kishwar for many reasons. Here are some of them:

1. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-madhu-kishwar-in-dock-as-media-war-erupts-over-jawaharlal-nehru-university-scholars-suicide-1939392
2. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-11-28/news/44546881_1_defamation-case-defamation-suit-officer-pradeep

more details with respect to the economic times article here:
http://www.truthofgujarat.com/pradeep-sharma-files-criminal-defamation-case-madhu-kishwar-hearing-5th-december/

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Kishwar used to be a leftist journalist for many years who used to be virulently anti-Modi. The allegation is that a monetary exchange took place to get her to become a rabidly pro-Modi journalist.
i do not understand media. Modi till today has not discriminated in offering government programs to Hindus alone. Congress & SP have all along made programs exclusively for Muslims. Now tell me who is Secular. Clearly Modi and BJP since they adhere to the constitution of India. Case Closed.

Now regarding you, how did you think Godhra Happened ? Clearly the Muslim Majority town has planned the incident to torch coaches bolting it from outside. Many of the accused were alleged to be Congress party members.  Why did they do that ?

http://www.truthofgujarat.com/sabarmati-express-arrived-godhra-scheduled-time-255-m-27th-february-2002/

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Post by rawemotions Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:08 pm

Rashmun wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:With respect to Jethmalani's presentation of the views of Madhu Kishwar, i have to say i do not have any respect for Kishwar for many reasons. Here are some of them:

1. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-madhu-kishwar-in-dock-as-media-war-erupts-over-jawaharlal-nehru-university-scholars-suicide-1939392
2. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-11-28/news/44546881_1_defamation-case-defamation-suit-officer-pradeep

more details with respect to the economic times article here:
http://www.truthofgujarat.com/pradeep-sharma-files-criminal-defamation-case-madhu-kishwar-hearing-5th-december/

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Kishwar used to be a leftist journalist for many years who used to be virulently anti-Modi. The allegation is that a monetary exchange took place to get her to become a rabidly pro-Modi journalist.
i do not understand media. Modi till today has not discriminated in offering government programs to Hindus alone. Congress & SP have all along made programs exclusively for Muslims. Now tell me who is Secular. Clearly Modi and BJP since they adhere to the constitution of India. Case Closed.

Now regarding you, how did you think Godhra Happened ? Clearly the Muslim Majority town has planned the incident to torch coaches bolting it from outside. Many of the accused were alleged to be Congress party members.  Why did they do that ?

http://www.truthofgujarat.com/sabarmati-express-arrived-godhra-scheduled-time-255-m-27th-february-2002/
I am not going to add monetary value to a  site full of lies. So you do not want to respond. I will take it that Congress Muslims allegedly have done the deed. How cruel of them to have burnt a complete bogey full of women and children. But then we all know what happens in Pakistan, today or in Bangladesh in 1971 or in Hyderabad during Razakars. Political islamists is the definition of most widespread EVIL on earth. 

[size=12.800000190734863]But what is your response to this ? Clearly when you don't have an answer you have skirted it.[/size]

i do not understand media. Modi till today has not discriminated in offering government programs to Hindus alone. Congress & SP have all along made programs exclusively for Muslims. Now tell me who is Secular. Clearly Modi and BJP since they adhere to the constitution of India. Case Closed.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:51 pm



Now I am having serious second thoughts on supporting Modi. He appears to be a moderate BJP walla and there should be someone who openly prefers hindus - the majority. After all, democracy is (supposedly) of the majority, (supposedly) for the majority, and (supposedly) by the majority.

So be it.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:46 am

BG Verghese's brilliant takedown of Madu Kishwar's book is titled 'She stoops but fails to conquer':

http://kanglaonline.com/2014/04/she-stoops-but-fails-to-conquer/

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