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Post by Hellsangel Sat May 31, 2014 12:56 pm

The United States does not negotiate with terrorists. That is why the initial rescue of the story in Homeland was changed from the prisoner swap of Hatufim.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat May 31, 2014 1:12 pm

Until the day these iSlamic terrorists are violently taught a lesson - the old fashion Soviet style - this will continue...and only get worse.

Taliban, Al-queda, Bok Haram, Lashkar, Jaish-e, Hamas, and the list goes on.

Everyone ...EVERYONE...cares for someone and that "someone" is the route to teach these iSlamic terrorists a lesson...

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sat May 31, 2014 9:42 pm

Hellsangel wrote:The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.

when did this policy come into being? before or after saint reagan?
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Post by Hellsangel Sat May 31, 2014 9:51 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.

when did this policy come into being? before or after saint reagan?
http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/state-dept-us-does-not-negotiate-terrorists wrote:
“The United States does not negotiate with terrorists,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

Which administration does Victoria Nuland work for?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sat May 31, 2014 10:45 pm

victoria nuland? how about saint reagan who broke his own rule?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/reagan-foreign/

Among the most pressing foreign affairs problems facing the U.S. during Reagan's tenure was the activity of various rogue terrorist organizations. In 1980, Reagan campaigned on a pledge to take a firm stand on terrorism. Under his watch, he promised, the U.S. would never negotiate with terrorists. During Reagan's eight years in office hundreds of Americans, including 241 Marines stationed in Beirut, were killed by terrorist acts. Particularly troubling to Reagan was the plight of several U.S. citizens who had been kidnapped and tortured by Muslim extremists in Lebanon. In an effort to win release of the hostages, Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North, along with members of the National Security Council and the CIA, sold weapons to Iran. Iran, at the time engaged in a war with Iraq and considered a terrorist nation by the U.S., was believed to have influence with the hostage-takers. The Iranians were overcharged for the weapons, and North then funneled the extra proceeds from the arms sale to the contras in Nicaragua. The operation resulted in several direct violations of stated U.S. policy and congressional mandate.

Investigations during the Iran-contra affair revealed a "shadow government," operating without public knowledge or congressional approval, being run out of the White House. For months, Reagan refused to admit that arms were traded for hostages -- that he had, indeed, negotiated with terrorists. Meanwhile, congressional hearings were convened to investigate the illegal diversion of funds to the contras. The all-too-familiar question of "what did the president know, and when did he know it," summoned up the ghosts of Watergate.
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat May 31, 2014 10:55 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:victoria nuland? how about saint reagan who broke his own rule?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/reagan-foreign/


You are wrong Reagan only made a "business" deal with the Iranians to supply the Contras. You see US did not "benefit" directly, and hence did not negotiate with terrorists...

This is another one of my hypotheses that those who are by principle opposed to a group are allowed to deal with them - bcz they will never "compromise" on their principles.

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Post by confuzzled dude Sat May 31, 2014 11:06 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:victoria nuland? how about saint reagan who broke his own rule?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/reagan-foreign/


You are wrong Reagan only made a "business" deal with the Iranians to supply the Contras. You see US did not "benefit" directly, and hence did not negotiate with terrorists...  

This is another one of my hypotheses that those who are by principle opposed to a group are allowed to deal with them - bcz they will never "compromise" on their principles.
You're right! we were part of terror outfit back then, we provided them terrorists err.. freedom fighters with modern arsenal and trained them but never compromised on our principles.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat May 31, 2014 11:20 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:victoria nuland? how about saint reagan who broke his own rule?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/reagan-foreign/


You are wrong Reagan only made a "business" deal with the Iranians to supply the Contras. You see US did not "benefit" directly, and hence did not negotiate with terrorists...  

This is another one of my hypotheses that those who are by principle opposed to a group are allowed to deal with them - bcz they will never "compromise" on their principles.
You're right! we were part of terror outfit back then, we provided them terrorists err.. freedom fighters with modern arsenal and trained them but never compromised on our principles.

It is all in the game of "naming" the outfit "appropriately"

Militia is not Militants is not terrorists is not freedom fighters is not criminals is not guerillas is not mercenary is not maoists is not communalists is not fascists is not ...

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Post by Hellsangel Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:36 am

The plot thickens.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:37 am

Hellsangel wrote:The plot thickens.

i thought the fact that he deserted was always known. why does the plot thicken NOW particularly?
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Post by Hellsangel Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:07 am

The administration negotiates with terrorists for a deserter.

I am sure they have their reasons.

PS: whatever happened to the guy being held in Iran?
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Post by Hellsangel Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:20 pm

Hmm
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