Kudos to Modi. He got it right.

by Rishi Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:53 pm

New Delhi: "Barah sau saal ki gulami ki maansikta humein pareshan kar rahi hai. Bahut baar humse thoda ooncha vyakti mile, to sar ooncha karke baat karne ki humari taaqat nahin hoti hai (The slave mentality of 1,200 years is troubling us. Often, when we meet a person of high stature, we fail to muster strength to speak up).

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/1200-years-of-servitude-modi-offers-food-for-thought-1567805.html?utm_source=ref_article

by Rishi Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:55 pm

>>>Before Seculars go crazy, please remember Muslims themselves say proudly that Hindus were their slaves for centuries.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:00 pm

it's not just a question of secular people not accepting this narrative. tamilians won't, and indeed have no need to give a nod to this narrative even if interpreted in the way he wants indians to interpret it. we were never an enslaved people (outside of colonialism that is). you of all people should know that.

by Rishi Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:02 pm

As expected, the repositioning of the period of 'slavery' in Indian history is bound to incite academic attack. Mushirul Hasan, historian and former vice chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia, says, "It is complete falsification of history. Several historians have refuted this fact but if the government wants to revisit it, they are free to do so, just as we are free to contest. The British didn't make India their home, whereas Muslims who came here, settled in India and contributed to the country’s culture. That gave birth to the Ganga-Jamuni tehzeeb (syncretic culture)." Lal, currently a senior fellow at Vivekananda International Foundation appeals to not lend communal colour to the phrase. He reiterates, "History should be based on straight facts and not to appease as has been the case in the past. The phrase "1,200 years of slavery" is neither saffronisation nor colourisation of history but only a reference to the deep conditioning of slave mentality that Indians have undergone over the centuries".

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/1200-years-of-servitude-modi-offers-food-for-thought-1567805.html?utm_source=ref_article

>>>What can you expect from Mushirul Hasan,a Muslim historian? He is the one falsifying the history.

by harharmahadev Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:13 pm

He is a superb leader. It is not a question about Hindus vs Muslims. It is an accepted fact that Muslim leaders were dictators and they didn't treat Hindus as equals. So he is right in stating that he feels burdened by 1200 years of slavery.

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:14 pm

harharmahadev wrote:He is a superb leader. It is not a question about Hindus vs Muslims. It is an accepted fact that Muslim leaders were dictators and they didn't treat Hindus as equals. So he is right in stating that he feels burdened by 1200 years of slavery.

well not all indians do. tamilians don't. so he can't speak for all indians.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:19 pm

Yeah..they made it their home - who? the few 1000 marauding murderers - screaming the 21st century slogan of "Allah-O-Akbar"?

Where did the 180 million muslims come from ?

who were they before? how did they become muslims? enamored with the "manly" allah-O-Akbar screams? or "enslaved" by the Swords they carried or their 6" dagger they carried on their waist?

So they leveled all the temples to "settle?

Perhaps the secular Hasan can answer.

Rather contest when teh history books are properly corrected.

It took 1000 years to enslave the Naarthies by the "piece lovers, while it took only 200 years to enslave the dark-skinned Tamilans by the white skinned Brits.

All in all Modi ji is right.

by smArtha Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:29 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:He is a superb leader. It is not a question about Hindus vs Muslims. It is an accepted fact that Muslim leaders were dictators and they didn't treat Hindus as equals. So he is right in stating that he feels burdened by 1200 years of slavery.

well not all indians do. tamilians don't. so he can't speak for all indians.

But you can speak for all Tamilians

by Hellsangel Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:31 pm

smArtha wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:He is a superb leader. It is not a question about Hindus vs Muslims. It is an accepted fact that Muslim leaders were dictators and they didn't treat Hindus as equals. So he is right in stating that he feels burdened by 1200 years of slavery.

well not all indians do. tamilians don't. so he can't speak for all indians.

But you can speak for all Tamilians

+1

by MaxEntropy_Man Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:33 pm

smArtha wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:He is a superb leader. It is not a question about Hindus vs Muslims. It is an accepted fact that Muslim leaders were dictators and they didn't treat Hindus as equals. So he is right in stating that he feels burdened by 1200 years of slavery.

well not all indians do. tamilians don't. so he can't speak for all indians.

But you can speak for all Tamilians

you are correct. my phrasing was a bit off and thanks for correcting me. let me leave it at: "tamilians have no need to have felt enslaved at any point in their history, except probably colonialism".

in fact this thread shows that some tamilians do have a borrowed sense of enslavement -- saamiyaar being a case in point.

by confuzzled dude Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:46 pm

Rishi wrote:New Delhi: "Barah sau saal ki gulami ki maansikta humein pareshan kar rahi hai. Bahut baar humse thoda ooncha vyakti mile, to sar ooncha karke baat karne ki humari taaqat nahin hoti hai (The slave mentality of 1,200 years is troubling us. Often, when we meet a person of high stature, we fail to muster strength to speak up). Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/1200-years-of-servitude-modi-offers-food-for-thought-1567805.html?utm_source=ref_article

Hahaha! Modi said it? I'm loving it. Keep them coming.. All we need to do is give him enough rope, he will promptly hang himself.

by harharmahadev Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:53 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:He is a superb leader. It is not a question about Hindus vs Muslims. It is an accepted fact that Muslim leaders were dictators and they didn't treat Hindus as equals. So he is right in stating that he feels burdened by 1200 years of slavery.

well not all indians do. tamilians don't. so he can't speak for all indians.

He was speaking for himself. Is that okay?

by Hellsangel Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:11 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Rishi wrote:New Delhi: "Barah sau saal ki gulami ki maansikta humein pareshan kar rahi hai. Bahut baar humse thoda ooncha vyakti mile, to sar ooncha karke baat karne ki humari taaqat nahin hoti hai (The slave mentality of 1,200 years is troubling us. Often, when we meet a person of high stature, we fail to muster strength to speak up). Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/1200-years-of-servitude-modi-offers-food-for-thought-1567805.html?utm_source=ref_article
Hahaha! Modi said it? I'm loving it. Keep them coming.. All we need to do is give him enough rope, he will promptly hang himself.

Bargaining stage achieved, Comrade?

by swapna Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:25 pm

Narenbhai refers to "us" and how "we" espouse a slave mentality. He should speak only for himself. And you, only for yourself.

by Hellsangel Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:55 pm

swapna wrote:Narenbhai refers to "us" and how "we" espouse a slave mentality. He should speak only for himself. And you, only for yourself.

Yes, ~~Achachan~~ Ammachi. Too many corporate wage slaves around. Not too many liberated folks such as yourself around.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:01 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
you are correct. my phrasing was a bit off and thanks for correcting me. let me leave it at: "tamilians have no need to have felt enslaved at any point in their history, except probably colonialism".

in fact this thread shows that some tamilians do have a borrowed sense of enslavement -- saamiyaar being a case in point.

Hahaha... you guys are the ones having a "transferred" sense of enslavement - to such an extent you are even afraid of criticising openly the jehadis.

by Propagandhi711 Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:06 pm

wow I didnt know thambis were so special.

by nevada Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:52 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
smArtha wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:He is a superb leader. It is not a question about Hindus vs Muslims. It is an accepted fact that Muslim leaders were dictators and they didn't treat Hindus as equals. So he is right in stating that he feels burdened by 1200 years of slavery.

well not all indians do. tamilians don't. so he can't speak for all indians.

But you can speak for all Tamilians

you are correct. my phrasing was a bit off and thanks for correcting me. let me leave it at: "tamilians have no need to have felt enslaved at any point in their history, except probably colonialism".

in fact this thread shows that some tamilians do have a borrowed sense of enslavement -- saamiyaar being a case in point.

Maybe he has a genuine grievance against the Arcot Nabob.

by swapna Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:31 pm

Narenbhai should speak only for himself, certainly not for me. I wonder who these people of "high stature" are, whom he met, with whom he failed to speak up.

by Kayalvizhi Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:36 pm

>> 200 years to enslave the dark-skinned Tamilans by the white skinned Brits.

It took Hindians just months of talk with cunningless and false assurances to hoodwink some Tamil politicians to sell out the Tamil country into slavery to Hindians. (in the mid 1940s)

by Merlot Daruwala Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:44 pm

Rishi wrote:New Delhi: "Barah sau saal ki gulami ki maansikta humein pareshan kar rahi hai. Bahut baar humse thoda ooncha vyakti mile, to sar ooncha karke baat karne ki humari taaqat nahin hoti hai (The slave mentality of 1,200 years is troubling us. Often, when we meet a person of high stature, we fail to muster strength to speak up).

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/1200-years-of-servitude-modi-offers-food-for-thought-1567805.html?utm_source=ref_article

Very true. Upps aunty here is a poster girl of this phenomenon. Forget about speaking up when meeting Muslims, she doesn't even step out after 8pm lest she meet any of them. The sound of their names fill her with dread. This would be true of other limpwristed as well. Sharp of Modi to observe this.

by harharmahadev Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:23 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:>> 200 years to enslave the dark-skinned Tamilans by the white skinned Brits.

It took Hindians just months of talk with cunningless and false assurances to hoodwink some Tamil politicians to sell out the Tamil country into slavery to Hindians. (in the mid 1940s)

I read it as cunnilingus. It didn't make any sense.

by confuzzled dude Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:04 am

Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rishi wrote:New Delhi: "Barah sau saal ki gulami ki maansikta humein pareshan kar rahi hai. Bahut baar humse thoda ooncha vyakti mile, to sar ooncha karke baat karne ki humari taaqat nahin hoti hai (The slave mentality of 1,200 years is troubling us. Often, when we meet a person of high stature, we fail to muster strength to speak up). Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/1200-years-of-servitude-modi-offers-food-for-thought-1567805.html?utm_source=ref_article
Hahaha! Modi said it? I'm loving it. Keep them coming.. All we need to do is give him enough rope, he will promptly hang himself.

Bargaining stage achieved, Comrade?

I always knew he is a single point agenda (which is not development) guy. If I were congress, I would pay a couple of BJP MPs to rile this religious bigot up, when giving hate speeches such as this which will land him into deep trouble like Romney's 47% comment did.

by Hellsangel Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:50 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rishi wrote:New Delhi: "Barah sau saal ki gulami ki maansikta humein pareshan kar rahi hai. Bahut baar humse thoda ooncha vyakti mile, to sar ooncha karke baat karne ki humari taaqat nahin hoti hai (The slave mentality of 1,200 years is troubling us. Often, when we meet a person of high stature, we fail to muster strength to speak up). Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/1200-years-of-servitude-modi-offers-food-for-thought-1567805.html?utm_source=ref_article
Hahaha! Modi said it? I'm loving it. Keep them coming.. All we need to do is give him enough rope, he will promptly hang himself.

Bargaining stage achieved, Comrade?
I always knew he is a single point agenda (which is not development) guy. If I were congress, I would pay a couple of BJP MPs to rile this religious bigot up, when giving hate speeches such as this which will land him into deep trouble like Romney's 47% comment did.

Yes, Comrade. You too know it all.

by swapna Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:23 pm

Rishi wrote:""The slave mentality of 1,200 years is troubling us. Often, when we meet a person of high stature, we fail to muster strength to speak up."

This is truly a preposterous statement; there is indeed such a thing as a "slave mentality" among many Indians. However, it is about 3500 years, not 1200 years old, because the oppression and enslavement of large segments of the Indian population is based on, and has been justified by the caste system of the hindus. Autocratic rule, by the moghals, for instance, is not enslavement.

Narenbhai knows all this, and most of you hindus do too. What you, especially people like Uppusaamy GowNDer and Ha!Ha!Mahadev, should know in addition, is that other Indians see through the false statement that the blame for the enslavement of Indians can be attributed to muslim rule.

by rawemotions Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:09 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:it's not just a question of secular people not accepting this narrative. tamilians won't, and indeed have no need to give a nod to this narrative even if interpreted in the way he wants indians to interpret it. we were never an enslaved people (outside of colonialism that is). you of all people should know that.

That is because Tamilians and Indians have not been taught about the sordid chapter in Indian history. The seculars managed to whitewash the Indian history. It is equivalent to not teaching about the evils of Nazism to the Germans today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madurai_Sultanate

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