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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:27 pm

Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections.

Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country's adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries.

The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there's no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money.

Obama is in for a rough ride with Congress under Republican control

America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden.

So, Americans vote for the party that got you into the mess that Obama just dug you out of? This defies reason.

When you are done with Obama, could you send him our way?

Richard Brunt

Victoria, British Columbia

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/

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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:33 pm

http://www.kelownanow.com/news/bc_news/news/Provincial/14/11/12/B_C_Man_Tells_U_S_Voters_How_Good_They_Have_it_With_Obama

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Post by southindian Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:16 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections.

Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country's adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries.

The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there's no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money.

Obama is in for a rough ride with Congress under Republican control

America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden.

So, Americans vote for the party that got you into the mess that Obama just dug you out of? This defies reason.

When you are done with Obama, could you send him our way?

Richard Brunt

Victoria, British Columbia

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/
Yup Smile 

The 'Party of No' beats Dems and Obama.

Stupidity is not just strong point of Northindians and Southindians. Americans are equally stupid.

You never know what goes in the minds of an American who's getting paid every week, spends more and has better 401K.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:42 am

southindian wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections.

Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country's adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries.

The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there's no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money.

Obama is in for a rough ride with Congress under Republican control

America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden.

So, Americans vote for the party that got you into the mess that Obama just dug you out of? This defies reason.

When you are done with Obama, could you send him our way?

Richard Brunt

Victoria, British Columbia

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/
Yup Smile 

The 'Party of No' beats Dems and Obama.

Stupidity is not just strong point of Northindians and Southindians. Americans are equally stupid.

You never know what goes in the minds of an American who's getting paid every week, spends more and has better 401K.

explain to me again why obama deserves credit for post economic calamity recovery? did he succeed with his economic stimulus measures? you dont think that's simplistic thinking on part of dems that ppl should just dumbly credit the president with things out of his control and vote for his party just coz he was lucky enough to preside when there was a v-shaped recovery from the depths of a huge economic crisis? 

same way bush didnt have much to do with post 2002 recovery which was a combination of recovery from the depths of tech bubble bursting & subsequent housing bubble inflation.

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Post by southindian Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:50 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
southindian wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections.

Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country's adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries.

The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there's no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money.

Obama is in for a rough ride with Congress under Republican control

America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden.

So, Americans vote for the party that got you into the mess that Obama just dug you out of? This defies reason.

When you are done with Obama, could you send him our way?

Richard Brunt

Victoria, British Columbia

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/
Yup Smile 

The 'Party of No' beats Dems and Obama.

Stupidity is not just strong point of Northindians and Southindians. Americans are equally stupid.

You never know what goes in the minds of an American who's getting paid every week, spends more and has better 401K.

explain to me again why obama deserves credit for post economic calamity recovery? did he succeed with his economic stimulus measures? you dont think that's simplistic thinking on part of dems that ppl should just dumbly credit the president with things out of his control and vote for his party just coz he was lucky enough to preside when there was a v-shaped recovery from the depths of a huge economic crisis? 

same way bush didnt have much to do with post 2002 recovery which was a combination of recovery from the depths of tech bubble bursting & subsequent housing bubble inflation.
Yup! He did

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/opinion/sunday/what-the-stimulus-accomplished.html?_r=0

Can you imagine the articles/posts/discussions today, if Obama led administration had failed to stop the slide post 2007 and if US in 2014 were not coming out with 200,000 new jobs for last 9 months?

Who do you think would have gotten the blame if Obama failed?

Even the Republicans are not talking about jobs, economy and recession. Smile That's good sign enough.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:25 am

southindian wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
southindian wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections.

Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country's adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries.

The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there's no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money.

Obama is in for a rough ride with Congress under Republican control

America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden.

So, Americans vote for the party that got you into the mess that Obama just dug you out of? This defies reason.

When you are done with Obama, could you send him our way?

Richard Brunt

Victoria, British Columbia

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/
Yup Smile 

The 'Party of No' beats Dems and Obama.

Stupidity is not just strong point of Northindians and Southindians. Americans are equally stupid.

You never know what goes in the minds of an American who's getting paid every week, spends more and has better 401K.

explain to me again why obama deserves credit for post economic calamity recovery? did he succeed with his economic stimulus measures? you dont think that's simplistic thinking on part of dems that ppl should just dumbly credit the president with things out of his control and vote for his party just coz he was lucky enough to preside when there was a v-shaped recovery from the depths of a huge economic crisis? 

same way bush didnt have much to do with post 2002 recovery which was a combination of recovery from the depths of tech bubble bursting & subsequent housing bubble inflation.
Yup! He did

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/opinion/sunday/what-the-stimulus-accomplished.html?_r=0

Can you imagine the articles/posts/discussions today, if Obama led administration had failed to stop the slide post 2007 and if US in 2014 were not coming out with 200,000 new jobs for last 9 months?

Who do you think would have gotten the blame if Obama failed?

Even the Republicans are not talking about jobs, economy and recession. Smile That's good sign enough.

NY times BS aside, obama promised that the stimulus would result in shovel ready projects and then later said there were so such projects. they instead built a bunch of useless infrastructure, nothing lasting like was hoped. 

what do you mean if obama had failed? failed at what? he didnt do jack, the fed engineered a recovery with good stewardship and by controlling money supply judiciously. president taking credit for v-recovery from depths of a crisis is laughable....90% of recoveries are v-shaped and obama got lucky with the timing of his presidency. if anything, obama failed with his soaring promises both on economic front and social justice front, not to mention his lack of leadership and floundering on foriegn policy. the only thing that looks like it might not be a failure like the initial days indicated was the obamacare. if it works out as intended he deserves large credit in retrospect for pushing it through but he hasn't been a success on the economic front the way you're touting.

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Post by southindian Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:53 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
southindian wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
southindian wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections.

Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country's adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries.

The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there's no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money.

Obama is in for a rough ride with Congress under Republican control

America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden.

So, Americans vote for the party that got you into the mess that Obama just dug you out of? This defies reason.

When you are done with Obama, could you send him our way?

Richard Brunt

Victoria, British Columbia

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/
Yup Smile 

The 'Party of No' beats Dems and Obama.

Stupidity is not just strong point of Northindians and Southindians. Americans are equally stupid.

You never know what goes in the minds of an American who's getting paid every week, spends more and has better 401K.

explain to me again why obama deserves credit for post economic calamity recovery? did he succeed with his economic stimulus measures? you dont think that's simplistic thinking on part of dems that ppl should just dumbly credit the president with things out of his control and vote for his party just coz he was lucky enough to preside when there was a v-shaped recovery from the depths of a huge economic crisis? 

same way bush didnt have much to do with post 2002 recovery which was a combination of recovery from the depths of tech bubble bursting & subsequent housing bubble inflation.
Yup! He did

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/opinion/sunday/what-the-stimulus-accomplished.html?_r=0

Can you imagine the articles/posts/discussions today, if Obama led administration had failed to stop the slide post 2007 and if US in 2014 were not coming out with 200,000 new jobs for last 9 months?

Who do you think would have gotten the blame if Obama failed?

Even the Republicans are not talking about jobs, economy and recession. Smile That's good sign enough.

NY times BS aside, obama promised that the stimulus would result in shovel ready projects and then later said there were so such projects. they instead built a bunch of useless infrastructure, nothing lasting like was hoped. 

what do you mean if obama had failed? failed at what? he didnt do jack, the fed engineered a recovery with good stewardship and by controlling money supply judiciously. president taking credit for v-recovery from depths of a crisis is laughable....90% of recoveries are v-shaped and obama got lucky with the timing of his presidency. if anything, obama failed with his soaring promises both on economic front and social justice front, not to mention his lack of leadership and floundering on foriegn policy. the only thing that looks like it might not be a failure like the initial days indicated was the obamacare. if it works out as intended he deserves large credit in retrospect for pushing it through but he hasn't been a success on the economic front the way you're touting.
Lucky? Really? How lucky could Obama get to a job of presidency when US economy, jobs, confidence, stock market, 401K were crashing all around him.

Looking in rearview mirror the Fed did a lot and in most cases recommended to the administration. The 13+ Financial heads visited the White House every other month and I know this very well. Stimulus is one example which if failed would have put the blame on administration. Same for Automobile industry bailout.  

I have global teams and we make plans. Plans to achieve things on certain dates with certain achievements. Both move, shuffle and still we don't get 100% done all the times. Success is looked in effort and forward move in the right direction. Goal posts change almost all the time and success is measured in +ve shifts in financial and business gains.

Remember, Obama makes promises because he's also a politician associated to a party. I don't care much about promises than results and I don't like his immigration policy. I'm not touting anything. I'm comparing past 6 years of historical data on jobs, economy and economic state of USA.
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