Finally a President who is not afraid to say the term "Islamic Terrorism"

goodcitizn wrote:Just heard Obama's speech where he directly took on Trump's rhetoric and spoke about the term. Really enjoyed his speech. He was calm, cogent, constitutional, logical and wise. Looking at Hillary and Trump, wish he could continue for another term.

Hellsangel wrote:Calmness and incompetence is the order of the day. Considering the way the FBI is handling domestic Islamic terrorism.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:Just heard Obama's speech where he directly took on Trump's rhetoric and spoke about the term. Really enjoyed his speech. He was calm, cogent, constitutional, logical and wise. Looking at Hillary and Trump, wish he could continue for another term.

you elitist, libby ivory tower academic! calmness and wisdom is for libby fools. no wonder you wish obambi could continue.  frothing at the mouth is the order of the day. because you know, people are hurtin'.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the most important thing the FBI is currently not doing is once a guy gets off their list (and they are legally bound to get people off their lists if they can't find anything to charge them with after an investigation) is to pass their name on to local law enforcement to keep an eye on these guys. they should start doing that. i was also not aware that mateen is currently not on their list. not even passing the weapons sale exclusion legislation for FBI listers would have prevented this guy from buying guns. no easy answers.

goodcitizn wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the most important thing the FBI is currently not doing is once a guy gets off their list (and they are legally bound to get people off their lists if they can't find anything to charge them with after an investigation) is to pass their name on to local law enforcement to keep an eye on these guys. they should start doing that. i was also not aware that mateen is currently not on their list. not even passing the weapons sale exclusion legislation for FBI listers would have prevented this guy from buying guns. no easy answers.

Even Hillary remarked about how he was able to buy his weapons having been on FBI's watchlist. They screwed up.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the most important thing the FBI is currently not doing is once a guy gets off their list (and they are legally bound to get people off their lists if they can't find anything to charge them with after an investigation) is to pass their name on to local law enforcement to keep an eye on these guys. they should start doing that. i was also not aware that mateen is currently not on their list. not even passing the weapons sale exclusion legislation for FBI listers would have prevented this guy from buying guns. no easy answers.

Even Hillary remarked about how he was able to buy his weapons having been on FBI's watchlist. They screwed up.

there is no legal way to prevent him from purchasing weapons. the FBI didn't screw up, unless you want them to operate extra-constitutionally.

goodcitizn wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:the most important thing the FBI is currently not doing is once a guy gets off their list (and they are legally bound to get people off their lists if they can't find anything to charge them with after an investigation) is to pass their name on to local law enforcement to keep an eye on these guys. they should start doing that. i was also not aware that mateen is currently not on their list. not even passing the weapons sale exclusion legislation for FBI listers would have prevented this guy from buying guns. no easy answers.

Even Hillary remarked about how he was able to buy his weapons having been on FBI's watchlist. They screwed up.

there is no legal way to prevent him from purchasing weapons. the FBI didn't screw up, unless you want them to operate extra-constitutionally.

FBI took him off the watchlist. Their investigation was incomplete and incompetent. I know that he could have bought his guns despite being on such a list which is a shame.

Mateen was once on the FBI watch list, and after he was removed, he was able to legally purchase guns. Ricciuti said that the FBI has certain guidelines that they must abide by. He also noted that they clear lots of leads. "Files don't stay open perpetually," he said. "It is a privacy violation." Coakley added that "they can't keep open files on everybody." She also spoke to the coordination of information in the case, "the sharing of information, the working together, of the FBI and local authorities and the mayor and the attorney general of Florida," appear to be very coordinated. In the years since 9/11, law enforcement has increased their communication between departments and agencies.

However, when it comes to lone wolf cases, investigations become much harder. When the suspect acts alone, there is no communication to be tracked between assailants. Ricciuti noted that these lone wolf cases are difficult to track as, "there's no meeting of co-conspirators." Coakley raised the issue of mental illness, and motivations in cases like these. "It's a crime of hate, but they're also acting out of hate for themselves," she said. She made the point that statistically, there's no indication that mentally ill people are any more dangerous than other people.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:Just heard Obama's speech where he directly took on Trump's rhetoric and spoke about the term. Really enjoyed his speech. He was calm, cogent, constitutional, logical and wise. Looking at Hillary and Trump, wish he could continue for another term.

you elitist, libby ivory tower academic! calmness and wisdom is for libby fools. no wonder you wish obambi could continue.  frothing at the mouth is the order of the day. because you know, people are hurtin'.

silvermani wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:Just heard Obama's speech where he directly took on Trump's rhetoric and spoke about the term. Really enjoyed his speech. He was calm, cogent, constitutional, logical and wise. Looking at Hillary and Trump, wish he could continue for another term.

you elitist, libby ivory tower academic! calmness and wisdom is for libby fools. no wonder you wish obambi could continue.  frothing at the mouth is the order of the day. because you know, people are hurtin'.

Isn't that what you do with Trump? Or is your anger and outrage at him just an act?

silvermani wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:Just heard Obama's speech where he directly took on Trump's rhetoric and spoke about the term. Really enjoyed his speech. He was calm, cogent, constitutional, logical and wise. Looking at Hillary and Trump, wish he could continue for another term.

you elitist, libby ivory tower academic! calmness and wisdom is for libby fools. no wonder you wish obambi could continue.  frothing at the mouth is the order of the day. because you know, people are hurtin'.

Isn't that what you do with Trump? Or is your anger and outrage at him just an act?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

silvermani wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:Just heard Obama's speech where he directly took on Trump's rhetoric and spoke about the term. Really enjoyed his speech. He was calm, cogent, constitutional, logical and wise. Looking at Hillary and Trump, wish he could continue for another term.

you elitist, libby ivory tower academic! calmness and wisdom is for libby fools. no wonder you wish obambi could continue.  frothing at the mouth is the order of the day. because you know, people are hurtin'.

Isn't that what you do with Trump? Or is your anger and outrage at him just an act?

yes i froth in anger at a presidential candidate. however, i am not a presidential candidate. a presidential candidate who could very well become the president who froths at the mouth is a far more dangerous proposition than an internet poster far from the reins of government, who shares his opinion amongst twenty or so people. are you really this dense or do you play one on the internet?