UP CM Adityanath's religious sect was patronized by both Akbar and Aurangzeb

by Guest Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:54 pm

Far from Hindutva, Yogi Adityanath's sect comes from a tradition that was neither Hindu nor Muslim

In direct contrast to Hindutva, Nath yogis have historically obtained power by emphasising their porous religious boundaries.

While the Nath yogis were known during the Delhi Sultanate for their other-worldly abilities, it wasn’t until Mughal rule (1526-1857) that they began to retain political influence with state rulers. Both Mughal rulers and Hindu kings patronised the community through land grants and other entitlements in exchange for supernatural support, blessings, and alchemical elixirs. Although there is no shortage of literary and historical materials showing the interactions between Nath yogis and the ruling elite, the yogis of Jakhbar have a particularly well -documented connection with Mughal rulers.

Beginning in the 16th century with Akbar, the Jakhbar yogis were given land and revenue grants by the Mughal Empire in exchange for blessings of longevity for the dynasty. Records preserved at the monastery show that the Jakhbar yogis were celebrated by the Mughal emperors for their alchemical abilities. Still more interesting is that even Aurangzeb held them in high esteem as alchemists. Not only did he continue to patronise this community throughout his rule, but he had a seemingly friendly relationship with the head of the Jakhbar temple. A reverent letter sent by Aurangzeb to the monastery requesting treated mercury, an essential alchemical ingredient used to obtain immortality, exists to this day...

Since disregarding the words of Gorakhnath that preached a transcendence of duality and an identity that was neither Hindu nor Muslim in the 1920s, the leaders of the Gorakhnath temple at Gorakhpur have reconstructed themselves as exclusively Hindu. Exploiting 20th century communal tensions, these leaders of the temple have constructed a new identity which propagates the Hindutva ideology. They have regained political relevance in the modern world while attempting to circulate a narrative of continuity that rejects their complex history of pluralistic influences.

“hindu dhyavai dehura, musalamana masita.
yogi dhavai paramapada, jaha dehura na masita
hindu akhai ramaṃ kun, musalamanaṃ khudai
yogi akhai alaka kun tahan ram achai na khudai.”
Hindus pray in the temple. Muslims worship in a mosque
Yogis worship in the ultimate reality, where there is neither temple nor masjid.
Hindus praise Ram. Muslims praise Khuda.
Yogis praise the indescribable, who is beyond Ram and Khuda.

https://scroll.in/article/833710/far-from-hindutva-yogi-adityanath-comes-from-a-tradition-that-was-neither-hindu-nor-muslim

by Guest Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:31 pm

Now that he has become the CM will Adityanath express his gratitude to the Mughals for giving his religious sect land and money?

by Guest Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:06 am

Traditionally Adityanath's religious sect considered itself beyond hinduism or any other religion. So, can we say that Adityanath has rejected the principles which his religious sect stood for?

Further, since the Nath community of Adityanath have their own religious text, Gorakhbani (composed by their leader and teacher Gorakh), which they consider to be more sacred than even the Vedas, would it be fair to say that these people are not Hindus?

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According to the Gorakhbani, the Nath community’s most influential text since the 16th century, the group prominently defined itself as neither Hindu nor Muslim, but distinctly as Jogis. While the theological tenets of the text built upon both Hindu and Islamic ideas, they also paradoxically accept and reject the teachings of both communities.

Acknowledging the importance of Hindu deities and Muslim prophets, as well as the wisdom of pandits and pirs, the Gorakhbani speaks of the transcendence of duality. It illustrates how the early modern community embraced the inclusion of both groups while considering them insufficient for obtaining ultimate truth. Not mincing words, the Gorakhbani states that absolute knowledge is not found in the Vedas, Sastras, or Qur’an. Only the sabad – the sacred word of Gorakh – can truly guide devotees through the mysteries of the universe.

“utapati hindu jaranan jogi akali pari musalmananin
te rah cinhon ho kaji mula brahma visnu mahadev mani
manya sabad cukaya dand, nihacai raja bharathari parchai gopichand
nihacai naravai bhae niradand, parachai jogi paramanand ”
[You are Hindus by birth, Muslims by wisdom, and Yogis by absorption.
Oh, Kazi and Mulla, acknowledge that path which Brahma, Visnu, and Mahadev have already accepted.
Whoever has accepted the sabad, the word of Gorakh, duality has ended.
Through the determination of the sabad Bharathari was made king,
through its knowledge Gopichand experienced truth.
With its persistence kings transcended duality.
With its knowledge yogis obtained ultimate happiness.]

by Seva Lamberdar Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:19 am

have you joined Adityanath's ministry?

by Guest Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:37 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:have you joined Adityanath's ministry?

not yet. which ministry should i opt for if he gives me a choice?

by Guest Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:53 am

The Nath community’s involvement in the workings of government is hardly a new development, as Nath yogis have been a formidable influence in South Asian politics for centuries. What has significantly changed is the manner in which the Gorakhpur’s Nath community understands and articulates its identity. In direct contrast to Adityanath’s Hindutva rhetoric, Nath yogis have historically obtained power by emphasising their porous religious boundaries.

Around the 13th century, a group of yogis began to form a community around the teachings and narratives of Guru Gorakhnath. Renowned for their ascetic accomplishments and their yogic powers, the Naths (also known as kanphatas, literally those with torn ears – a result of their tradition of wearing large earrings) were tremendously popular in early modern India.

Overlapping and competing with Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain communities, these yogis professed a belief in one unseen god – a belief which allowed them to theologically straddle the theological boundaries between various religious traditions. The Gorakhbani, or sayings attributed to Gorakhnath, highlights the early modern community’s conception of selfhood.

According to the Gorakhbani, the Nath community’s most influential text since the 16th century, the group prominently defined itself as neither Hindu nor Muslim, but distinctly as Jogis. While the theological tenets of the text built upon both Hindu and Islamic ideas, they also paradoxically accept and reject the teachings of both communities.

Acknowledging the importance of Hindu deities and Muslim prophets, as well as the wisdom of pandits and pirs, the Gorakhbani speaks of the transcendence of duality. It illustrates how the early modern community embraced the inclusion of both groups while considering them insufficient for obtaining ultimate truth. Not mincing words, the Gorakhbani states that absolute knowledge is not found in the Vedas, Sastras, or Qur’an. Only the sabad – the sacred word of Gorakh – can truly guide devotees through the mysteries of the universe.

https://scroll.in/article/833710/far-from-hindutva-yogi-adityanath-comes-from-a-tradition-that-was-neither-hindu-nor-muslim

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The more i study Adityanath's religious sect, the firmer the belief that his religious sect is not a Hindu sect. It is coming across as a different religion along the lines of Buddhism.

by Seva Lamberdar Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:28 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:have you joined Adityanath's ministry?

not yet. which ministry should i opt for if he gives me a choice?

in less than a month, since his inauguration as C.M. in March, you seem to be turning into a fan (from a big critic initially), what happened?

by Guest Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:31 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:have you joined Adityanath's ministry?

not yet. which ministry should i opt for if he gives me a choice?
in less than a month, since his inauguration as C.M. in March, you seem to be turning into a fan (from a big critic initially), what happened?

I am a fan not of Adityanath but of Gorakh and Gorakhbani. Gorakhism (for lack of a better word) is coming across as a new syncretic religion to me. It seems to be somewhat like Buddhism, or Sikhism. They have their own religious text which preaches religious tolerance and synthesizes different religious viewpoints into a harmonious whole.

But as the article says Adityanath and his two immediate predecessor priests of the Gorakh temple have stopped following Gorakhism and have become proponents of militant hinduism because of political reasons. They have abandoned the philosophy of Gorakh which teaches tolerance.

by SomeProfile Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:35 pm

Rashmunni can try all she wants to introduce Yogi into her H-M aka hasth-maithun synthesis. But she can't escape the bamboo up her ass next time she visits UP! Laughing

Just me know her ID details, and I can ensure it happens. Legally! Razz

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:53 pm

SomeProfile wrote:Rashmunni can try all she wants to introduce Yogi into her H-M aka hasth-maithun synthesis. But she can't escape the bamboo up her ass next time she visits UP!

Just me know her ID details, and I can ensure it happens. Legally!

One thing Akbar and Aurangajeb didn't try was P-M (Pig-Moghul) synthesis. If they did, pork would have been their staple diet.

by Guest Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:55 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:Rashmunni can try all she wants to introduce Yogi into her H-M aka hasth-maithun synthesis. But she can't escape the bamboo up her ass next time she visits UP!

Just me know her ID details, and I can ensure it happens. Legally!
One thing Akbar and Aurangajeb didn't try was P-M (Pig-Moghul) synthesis. If they did, pork would have been their staple diet.

Wrong. The Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazal quotes Akbar saying that there is no harm in eating pork.

by SomeProfile Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:57 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:Rashmunni can try all she wants to introduce Yogi into her H-M aka hasth-maithun synthesis. But she can't escape the bamboo up her ass next time she visits UP!

Just me know her ID details, and I can ensure it happens. Legally!
One thing Akbar and Aurangajeb didn't try was P-M (Pig-Moghul) synthesis. If they did, pork would have been their staple diet.

Wrong. The Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazal quotes Akbar saying that there is no harm in eating pork.

Please post more information about this so that I can make notes, take screenshots, etc. That way, next time you visit UP, you will get it from both sides! pale

by Guest Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:05 pm

SomeProfile wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:Rashmunni can try all she wants to introduce Yogi into her H-M aka hasth-maithun synthesis. But she can't escape the bamboo up her ass next time she visits UP!

Just me know her ID details, and I can ensure it happens. Legally!
One thing Akbar and Aurangajeb didn't try was P-M (Pig-Moghul) synthesis. If they did, pork would have been their staple diet.

Wrong. The Ain-i-Akbari of Abul Fazal quotes Akbar saying that there is no harm in eating pork.

Please post more information about this so that I can make notes, take screenshots, etc. That way, next time you visit UP, you will get it from both sides!

no problem. do this:

1. click here: http://persian.packhum.org/persian/main?url=pf%3Fauth%3D7%26work%3D002

2. now click on Volume III

3. Now scroll down to where it says "BOOK THE FIFTH. COMPRISING THE HAPPY SAYINGS OF HIS MAJESTY, AND THE CONCLUSION, With a brief notice of the Author" and click on the link

4. Now do a control-F on 'swine'. The exact words of Akbar, as quoted by Abul Fazal, are:

If the reason of the prohibition of swine (as food), be due to its vileness, lions and the like should be held lawful.

by SomeProfile Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:04 pm

Let me know next time you visit UP. I will ensure that you will get it from both sides. Legally!

by Guest Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:23 pm

SomeProfile wrote:Let me know next time you visit UP. I will ensure that you will get it from both sides. Legally!

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