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Post by silvermani on Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:57 pm

The puppet and his muppets - a match made in heaven.
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Post by FluteHolder on Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:05 am

I was listening to NPR this morning where Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm. So whether it is Blue or Red, Green ($) always wins/rules... BO was just a puppet of financial interests that control the country.

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Post by silvermani on Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:12 am

Exactly! A simple point that CH intellectuals fail to understand or deliberately ignore.
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Post by garam_kuta on Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:09 am

FluteHolder wrote:I was listening to NPR this morning where Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm. So whether it is Blue or Red, Green ($) always wins/rules... BO was just a puppet of financial interests that control the country.

Nothing new! all government heads across the planet always listen to, and favor business people; one can only trust/hope it's for the welfare of the country, and not for their own individual wealth or for the party's benefit - at least for most part.

தேன் எடுத்தவன் புறங்கையை சுவைக்காமல் விடுவானா?

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Post by Idéfix on Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:30 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm.
Ah, good old Newt Gingrich. Here's something he said about undermining independent investigators:


Before starting to do just that, this is what Gingrich said: "Robert Mueller is superb choice to be special counsel. His reputation is impeccable for honesty and integrity. Media should now calm down."

Newt Gingrich is the perfect example of everything that is wrong with our politics. In the 1990s, he repeatedly accused a president of obstruction of justice. He voted to impeach Clinton on, among others, the charge of obstruction of justice. But now he says: "Technically, the President of the United States cannot obstruct justice."

It is a legal matter whether a president can commit obstruction of justice (he can), it doesn't vary with the party affiliation of the president. Except for hypocritical windbags like Gingrich, it does. People should judge both parties by the same standards. Many Trump supporters don't want to. They have very high standards for judging Democrats, but won't even criticize them for boasting about grabbing women by the pussy. They ought to be ashamed of their own lack of moral principles.
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Post by garam_kuta on Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:16 pm

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FluteHolder wrote:Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm.
Ah, good old Newt Gingrich. ....Newt Gingrich is the perfect example of everything that is wrong with our politics. .......
.............. It is a legal matter whether a president can commit obstruction of justice (he can), it doesn't vary with the party affiliation of the president. Except for hypocritical windbags like Gingrich, it does. People should judge both parties by the same standards. Many Trump supporters don't want to. They have very high standards for judging Democrats, but won't even criticize them for boasting about grabbing women by the pussy. They ought to be ashamed of their own lack of moral principles.
Hey they are changing.... “When they go low, we go high ..." j/k Wink

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Post by garam_kuta on Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:38 pm

FluteHolder wrote:I was listening to NPR this morning where Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm. So whether it is Blue or Red, Green ($) always wins/rules... BO was just a puppet of financial interests that control the country.


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Post by FluteHolder on Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:07 pm

I am not supporting/defending DJT. But pointing the obvious that all are corrupt. Clinton is/was not a saint either while he was in WH ('Kiddo' ing interns').

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Post by confuzzled dude on Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:48 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:I was listening to NPR this morning where Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm. So whether it is Blue or Red, Green ($) always wins/rules... BO was just a puppet of financial interests that control the country.

Nothing new! all government heads across the planet always listen to, and favor business people; one can only trust/hope it's for the welfare of the country, and not for their own individual wealth or for the party's benefit - at least for most part.

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but but when Obama does it it is lying & corruption when a republican country does it, it is encouraging to free market principles and being a true patriot, whatever the heck that means.

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Post by silvermani on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:46 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:I was listening to NPR this morning where Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm. So whether it is Blue or Red, Green ($) always wins/rules... BO was just a puppet of financial interests that control the country.

Nothing new! all government heads across the planet always listen to, and favor business people; one can only trust/hope it's for the welfare of the country, and not for their own individual wealth or for the party's benefit - at least for most part.

தேன் எடுத்தவன் புறங்கையை சுவைக்காமல் விடுவானா?
but but when Obama does it it is lying & corruption when a republican country does it, it is encouraging to free market principles and being a true patriot, whatever the heck that means.
Obummer is not a feku , he is a maha feku.
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Post by garam_kuta on Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:36 am

silvermani wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:I was listening to NPR this morning where Newt Gingrich was saying that Mueller's team consists of Attorneys who have donations to HC's Campaign/party. Though Mueller is registered Republican he worked for a Democratic leaning firm. So whether it is Blue or Red, Green ($) always wins/rules... BO was just a puppet of financial interests that control the country.

Nothing new! all government heads across the planet always listen to, and favor business people; one can only trust/hope it's for the welfare of the country, and not for their own individual wealth or for the party's benefit - at least for most part.

தேன் எடுத்தவன் புறங்கையை சுவைக்காமல் விடுவானா?
but but when Obama does it it is lying & corruption when a republican country does it, it is encouraging to free market principles and being a true patriot, whatever the heck that means.
Obummer is not a feku , he is a maha feku.

with trump, it may be simpler; just follow the money - only time will tell

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Post by Idéfix on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:44 am

FluteHolder wrote:I am not supporting/defending DJT. But pointing the obvious that all are corrupt. Clinton is/was not a saint either while he was in WH ('Kiddo' ing interns').
I'll take your word for it, that you are not supporting or defending Trump. I didn't remember you ever criticizing anything Trump did, but when the things he is doing wrong are brought up, you tend to criticize Obama or Clinton. That's why I thought you might be trying to defend Trump.

"All are corrupt" is not a useful way to identify which of two options is going to be more beneficial. That's like saying the trespasser and the murderer are both obviously criminals, so there is no point in judging them differently.

Obama was not tough enough on Wall Street. He did not investigate the war crimes under the Dubya administration and he didn't go after the biggest criminals that caused the Great Recession. He vastly expanded undeclared, unauthorized, remote-controlled war-at-a-distance where the military plays video games at their US base, and people get killed as a result. He did nothing to stop the surveillance state. He applied the WW1-era Espionage Act, which was written to protect us from spies helping America's foreign enemies, against whistle-blowers. I was disappointed with him on all these fronts.

But nothing he did comes anywhere as damaging to America as the shitshow we have going on in the White House now. There are more billionaires in the cabinet today than there were under Obama, Bush or Clinton. Goldman Sachs has more control on the Trump administration than it ever did in history. If you care about corruption and how Wall Street criminals are treated, you should definitely care about this. Do you?
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Post by FluteHolder on Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:11 am

I DO KNOW more about corruption and as an ordinary citizen I/you can do nothing about it unless you are willing to file a lawsuit.  Whether it is local/state/federal level all officials are very nicely protected by the system.

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Post by Idéfix on Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:24 pm

FluteHolder wrote:I DO KNOW more about corruption and as an ordinary citizen I/you can do nothing about it unless you are willing to file a lawsuit.  Whether it is local/state/federal level all officials are very nicely protected by the system.
Yeah, that's what I meant... "trespassers and murderers are both nicely protected by the system" sounds accurate, but misses the point of judging different offenses differently.
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