i asked my wife...

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:...today, to indicate in percentage the resemblance of the language her mother speaks; a language she understands and half-speaks (magahi or magadhi) to hindi and bengali.

her observations (about the closeness in vocabulary):

to bengali: 50% or more; maybe 60% or 70%
to hindi: 40%

Propagandhi711 wrote:it's interesting. I woulda guessed 47, 52. makes all the difference in the world

indophile wrote:In Magahi, do they "eat" or "drink" water? For example, in Bengali and Oriya, they "eat" water (thry "drink" only alcoholic drinks).

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:it's interesting. I woulda guessed 47, 52. makes all the difference in the world

actually, (you won't find it interesting), is that a rewriting of the "indo-european languages" family (as written by the western scholars) is underway. that "western scholarly" notion was adopted by our founding fathers but since then it has been proven that rajasthani and bihari laguages are NOT dialects of hindi. i am NOT denying that whatever happened was for "greater good." but we should know our history.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:it's interesting. I woulda guessed 47, 52. makes all the difference in the world

actually, (you won't find it interesting), is that a rewriting of the "indo-european languages" family (as written by the western scholars) is underway. that "western scholarly" notion was adopted by our founding fathers but since then it has been proven that rajasthani and bihari laguages are NOT dialects of hindi. i am NOT denying that whatever happened was for "greater good." but we should know our history.

Good morning, Huzefa. It is good (that it has been proven that rajasthani and bihari languages are NOT dialects of hindi). It is also true that we must know our history.

Hellsangel wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:it's interesting. I woulda guessed 47, 52. makes all the difference in the world

actually, (you won't find it interesting), is that a rewriting of the "indo-european languages" family (as written by the western scholars) is underway. that "western scholarly" notion was adopted by our founding fathers but since then it has been proven that rajasthani and bihari laguages are NOT dialects of hindi. i am NOT denying that whatever happened was for "greater good." but we should know our history.

Good morning, Huzefa. It is good (that it has been proven that rajasthani and bihari languages are NOT dialects of hindi). It is also true that we must know our history.

Good Morning DUT

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:it's interesting. I woulda guessed 47, 52. makes all the difference in the world

actually, (you won't find it interesting), is that a rewriting of the "indo-european languages" family (as written by the western scholars) is underway. that "western scholarly" notion was adopted by our founding fathers but since then it has been proven that rajasthani and bihari laguages are NOT dialects of hindi. i am NOT denying that whatever happened was for "greater good." but we should know our history.

Good morning, Huzefa. It is good (that it has been proven that rajasthani and bihari languages are NOT dialects of hindi). It is also true that we must know our history.

Good Morning DUT

Good Morning Mr Angel. Have the lambs finally stopped screaming?

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:rajasthani and bihari laguages are NOT dialects of hindi. i am NOT denying that whatever happened was for "greater good." but we should know our history.

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:

indophile wrote:In Magahi, do they "eat" or "drink" water? For example, in Bengali and Oriya, they "eat" water (thry "drink" only alcoholic drinks).

no.

bengali -- jOl khabe?
magahi -- paani peebey?

panini press wrote:Maithili for instance has more in common with Bengali than with Hindi.

indophile wrote:

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:

indophile wrote:In Magahi, do they "eat" or "drink" water? For example, in Bengali and Oriya, they "eat" water (thry "drink" only alcoholic drinks).

no.

bengali -- jOl khabe?
magahi -- paani peebey?

Not paani peeonge?

panini press wrote:

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:rajasthani and bihari laguages are NOT dialects of hindi. i am NOT denying that whatever happened was for "greater good." but we should know our history.

I remember a discussion on CH a long time ago. I was arguing that you can't count the languages of Bihar as Hindi dialects while not counting the languages of Bengal as Hindi dialects. Maithili for instance has more in common with Bengali than with Hindi.

Huzefa Kapasi wrote: a rewriting of the "indo-european languages" family (as written by the western scholars) is underway.

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:

Huzefa Kapasi wrote: a rewriting of the "indo-european languages" family (as written by the western scholars) is underway.

i am not suggesting that the western scholars had any "malicious" intent but that their research was inadequate. rajasthani (family of languages) was considered a dialect of hindi by them and later recognized as a distinct language by them before independence.