Why civil resistance trumps violent uprisings

Maria S wrote:


With Israel it will not work, as long as they have the unconditional support of US.

Hellsangel wrote:

Are you encouraging more violence in the Middle East?

Maria S wrote:This movie "The Other Son"- to be released in Oct, is beginning to have some buzz in social media..seems like it's well made..can be appealing to both sides.

panini press wrote:I think the non violent method can work with Israel but I can't picture the Palestinians coming around to that political viewpoint. You need a strong leader with a lot of moral authority to make that method appealing to enough people. And too much blood has already been spilled on both sides. If the nonviolent method worked against the apartheid regime I'm South Africa, it can work in Palestine too. I do feel the Palestinians made a huge strategic mistake in the 60s and 70s picking the path of terrorism. Like the Eelam Tamils did a couple of decades later, too.

Maria S wrote:

panini press wrote:I think the non violent method can work with Israel but I can't picture the Palestinians coming around to that political viewpoint. You need a strong leader with a lot of moral authority to make that method appealing to enough people. And too much blood has already been spilled on both sides. If the nonviolent method worked against the apartheid regime I'm South Africa, it can work in Palestine too. I do feel the Palestinians made a huge strategic mistake in the 60s and 70s picking the path of terrorism. Like the Eelam Tamils did a couple of decades later, too.

You are bigger Optimist and a dreamer than I am:)

Seriously, hope you are right and I am wrong in this one..

Hellsangel wrote:Simple Give the terrorists an inch and soon you will end up ceding them a mile.

Impedimenta wrote:Yes indeedio. In particular, if Palestinians had embarked on the "Gandhi strategy" of civil disobedience I think things possibly could be very different...

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/19/why-civil-resistance-trumps-violent-uprisings/

I have just always thought that if they had fought back, for example, sitting in the streets in front of Israeli tanks in protest and stopped the guerrilla warfare altogether, they may have been more successful. It is certainly a complicated issue. Some of the issues include the vast disagreements within the Palestinian citizens about the correct course of action and the lack of a charismatic leader who is capable of pushing for non-violent protests.

To my knowledge, a mass wide-scale, completely non-violent civil disobedience protest has not been attempted before the erection of the wall. the situation there is just tragic for so many people. simply tragic!

panini press wrote:I agree, when it comes to what is possible now, nonviolent resistance isn't just on the agenda in this conflict, and I don't see it becoming part of it. My speculation is more of a "what if" of history. I wonder how things might have turned out for the Palestinians if they had chosen the course of nonviolent resistance back in the day. My own feeling is that Israel and its lobby in the US would have found it a lot harder to ignore the plight of the Palestinians under the easy argument of "Israel's security is jeopardized the moment we give them anything." In that sense, I see the nonviolent approach as more of a lost opportunity than a realistic future opportunity for the Palestinians.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Impedimenta wrote:Yes indeedio. In particular, if Palestinians had embarked on the "Gandhi strategy" of civil disobedience I think things possibly could be very different...

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/19/why-civil-resistance-trumps-violent-uprisings/

I have just always thought that if they had fought back, for example, sitting in the streets in front of Israeli tanks in protest and stopped the guerrilla warfare altogether, they may have been more successful. It is certainly a complicated issue. Some of the issues include the vast disagreements within the Palestinian citizens about the correct course of action and the lack of a charismatic leader who is capable of pushing for non-violent protests.

To my knowledge, a mass wide-scale, completely non-violent civil disobedience protest has not been attempted before the erection of the wall. the situation there is just tragic for so many people. simply tragic!

Gandhi strategy will work only against oppressors who follow a semblence of judicial system and at least a diluted sense of law - even if biased. Gandhi himself said this. This would not have worked against the Nazis, Ruskies, chinkus, Iraq and now in Syria or Iran.

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Yes woulda worked in Sri Lanka for sure...but your belligerentan brotherans chose the bellicosan way and went the way of the palestinianans