thursday cryptics - 23 may 2013

by bw Thu May 23, 2013 10:29 am

1. Coat falls with a thud in front of people - model turns sour (7)

2. Tricky enemy captures Zulu chief to act as an agent of change (6)

3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

4. Wish endlessly for a ring? describes how mad you are! (7)

5. Settle with an english mindset in some ways ( 8 )

6. Slow introduction of herbs, say, in nuclear reaction ( 8 )

7. Daughter drops a letter, muddles the plan (7)

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

9. It's the coffeehouse girl's cup (7)

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 12:49 pm

Indo/GC?

by b_A Thu May 23, 2013 12:55 pm

2. En(z)yme

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 12:57 pm

b_A wrote:2. En(z)yme

Yes.

by indophile Thu May 23, 2013 2:13 pm

bw wrote:
9. It's the coffeehouse girl's cup (7)

CHALICE --- ch+alice

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 2:16 pm

indophile wrote:
bw wrote:
9. It's the coffeehouse girl's cup (7)

CHALICE --- ch+alice

Yes.

by indophile Thu May 23, 2013 2:22 pm

bw wrote:
10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

AGENT --- a+gent

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 2:23 pm

indophile wrote:
bw wrote:
10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)
AGENT --- a+gent

No.

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 4:40 pm

Looks like GC is MIA.

by indophile Thu May 23, 2013 4:42 pm

bw wrote:
4. Wish endlessly for a ring? describes how mad you are! (7)

Another shot in the dark.
MARRING --- MARk+RING

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 4:43 pm

indophile wrote:
bw wrote:
4. Wish endlessly for a ring? describes how mad you are! (7)

Another shot in the dark.
MARRING --- MARk+RING

No. But on the right track.

by indophile Thu May 23, 2013 4:54 pm

HOPPING -- HOPe+PING?

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 4:57 pm

indophile wrote:HOPPING -- HOPe+PING?

Yes.

by indophile Thu May 23, 2013 6:45 pm

bw wrote:
6. Slow introduction of herbs, say, in nuclear reaction ( 8 )

INFUSION?

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 6:48 pm

indophile wrote:
bw wrote:
6. Slow introduction of herbs, say, in nuclear reaction ( 8 )

INFUSION?

Yes.

by indophile Thu May 23, 2013 7:00 pm

bw wrote:
7. Daughter drops a letter, muddles the plan (7)

Just guessing now.
DRAUGHT ---- (daughter - e) - anag. But does it mean "plan?" I don't know. "Draft" could be stretched to mean "plan" but draught - I don't know (may be by claiming British proclivities to jumble up their spellings).

by Hellsangel Thu May 23, 2013 7:03 pm

indophile wrote:
bw wrote:
7. Daughter drops a letter, muddles the plan (7)

Just guessing now.
DRAUGHT ---- (daughter - e) - anag. But does it mean "plan?" I don't know. "Draft" could be stretched to mean "plan" but draught - I don't know (may be by claiming British proclivities to jumble up their spellings).

Yes. Draught is the original spelling of draft.

draught

, draughty

\ˈdräft\\ˈdräf-tē\

Definition of DRAUGHT

chiefly British variant of draft, drafty

And Draft is plan.

6 : the act, result, or plan of drawing out or stretching

Not sure if you see the theme in this set.

by b_A Thu May 23, 2013 7:06 pm

indophile wrote:
bw wrote:
7. Daughter drops a letter, muddles the plan (7)

Just guessing now.
DRAUGHT ---- (daughter - e) - anag. But does it mean "plan?" I don't know. "Draft" could be stretched to mean "plan" but draught - I don't know (may be by claiming British proclivities to jumble up their spellings).

I thought of that too. But couldn't fit the clue.
Then I thought may be sounds like draft ( for plan) but there is no homonym indicator.

by indophile Thu May 23, 2013 7:07 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Not sure if you see the theme in this set.

Something to do with beer?
I've to run now.

by bw Thu May 23, 2013 8:00 pm

these five remain:

1. Coat falls with a thud in front of people - model turns sour (7)

3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

5. Settle with an english mindset in some ways ( 8 )

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

by bw Thu May 23, 2013 8:01 pm

indophile wrote:
bw wrote:
7. Daughter drops a letter, muddles the plan (7)

Just guessing now.
DRAUGHT ---- (daughter - e) - anag. But does it mean "plan?" I don't know. "Draft" could be stretched to mean "plan" but draught - I don't know (may be by claiming British proclivities to jumble up their spellings).

cryptic crosswords are a british invention and hence british spelling always!

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/draught

by b_A Thu May 23, 2013 11:12 pm

bw wrote:these five remain:

1. Coat falls with a thud in front of people - model turns sour (7)

3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

5. Settle with an english mindset in some ways ( 8 )

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

1. ferment ?

by bw Thu May 23, 2013 11:29 pm

b_A wrote:
bw wrote:these five remain:

1. Coat falls with a thud in front of people - model turns sour (7)

3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

5. Settle with an english mindset in some ways ( 8 )

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

1. ferment ?

yes. what's the logic?

by b_A Thu May 23, 2013 11:37 pm

bw wrote:
b_A wrote:
bw wrote:these five remain:

1. Coat falls with a thud in front of people - model turns sour (7)

3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

5. Settle with an english mindset in some ways ( 8 )

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

1. ferment ?

yes. what's the logic?

fer ( sounds like fur) - men (people) -t(hud) ?

by bw Thu May 23, 2013 11:43 pm

b_A wrote:
bw wrote:
b_A wrote:
bw wrote:these five remain:

1. Coat falls with a thud in front of people - model turns sour (7)

1. ferment ?

yes. what's the logic?

fer ( sounds like fur) - men (people) -t(hud) ?

yes. almost!

i used 'model' to refer to the car, ford model T, a commonly used indicator in cryptics for "T".

by bw Fri May 24, 2013 8:00 am

hints for the remaining clues. of course, the theme should help as well.

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3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

A+B with some deletion.

5. Settle with an english mindset in some ways ( 8 )

anagram

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

<anagram of a word>-in-word

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

A+B (i have used a rather uncommon meaning of the word as the definition)

by b_A Fri May 24, 2013 9:31 am

bw wrote:hints for the remaining clues. of course, the theme should help as well.

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3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

A+B with some deletion.

5. Settle with an english mindset in some ways ( 8 )

anagram

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

-in-word

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

A+B (i have used a rather uncommon meaning of the word as the definition)

5. sediment (e+mindset anag)

by b_A Fri May 24, 2013 9:34 am

10. Lager ?

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 9:56 am

b_A wrote:

5. sediment (e+mindset anag)

Yes.

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 9:56 am

b_A wrote:10. Lager ?

No.

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 10:34 am

The following 3 remain (with earlier hints):

3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

A+B with some deletion.

8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)

<anagram of a word>-in-word

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

A+B (i have used a rather uncommon meaning of the word as the definition)

by indophile Fri May 24, 2013 11:30 am

Hellsangel wrote:
8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)
<anagram of a word>-in-word

BARLEY --- EARL-anag in BY --- But this is only 6 letters, not 7.

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 11:55 am

indophile wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
8. New earl caught in proximity to the grain (7)
<anagram of a word>-in-word
BARLEY --- EARL-anag in BY --- But this is only 6 letters, not 7.

Yes. Wrong letter count. Sorry about that.

by indophile Fri May 24, 2013 1:19 pm

Hellsangel wrote:The following 3 remain (with earlier hints):
3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)
A+B with some deletion.

REJECT ---- R elatives + EJECT

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 1:19 pm

indophile wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:The following 3 remain (with earlier hints):
3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)
A+B with some deletion.

REJECT ---- R elatives + EJECT

No.

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 1:47 pm

Last two. Definitions highlighted below:

3. Forbid some of kin to plummet through (6)

A+B with some deletion.

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

A+B (i have used a rather uncommon meaning of the word as the definition)

by b_A Fri May 24, 2013 1:57 pm

3. barrel ( bar (forbid) + rel(ative))

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 1:58 pm

b_A wrote:3. barrel ( bar (forbid) + rel(ative))

Yes.

by indophile Fri May 24, 2013 4:06 pm

Hellsangel wrote:

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

A+B (i have used a rather uncommon meaning of the word as the definition)

SOBER --- SOB (as in son of a bitch) + ER (doubtful interjection) ---- Just guessing going by the theme:-)

by Hellsangel Fri May 24, 2013 4:26 pm

indophile wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:

10. The reseller beyond a point is dependable (5)

A+B (i have used a rather uncommon meaning of the word as the definition)

SOBER --- SOB (as in son of a bitch) + ER (doubtful interjection) ---- Just guessing going by the theme:-)

No. Point can be a direction. Think of a scalper for reseller.

by bw Sat May 25, 2013 5:27 am

here's another clue for #10

10. Portly saint not in (5)

by indophile Sat May 25, 2013 9:01 am

STOUT --- St.+out

by bw Sat May 25, 2013 9:43 am

indophile wrote:STOUT --- St.+out

yes. set solved! *phew*

by indophile Sat May 25, 2013 11:21 am

Thanks for the nice set bw. No. 10 was a doozy.
It will be nice if b_A or HA posts the next set.

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