THURSDAY CRYPTICS 6/6/2013

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:15 am

1. Punished the kid saved from electric shock [8]

2. Minister in holy surroundings for once [8]

3. Weight-watchers' need sound setting [6]

4. Wooden furniture to support old calculator [3,5]

5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]

7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]

8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [8]

9. He, a nut, and she somewhat, withdraw from the case [9]

10. Seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]

by indophile Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:55 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
3. Weight-watchers' need sound setting [6]

LOCALE --- (low cal)-hom

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:58 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
3. Weight-watchers' need sound setting [6]
LOCALE --- (low cal)-hom

Correct.

by indophile Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:45 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
4. Wooden furniture to support old calculator [3,5]

ARM CHAIR?

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:46 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
4. Wooden furniture to support old calculator [3,5]
ARM CHAIR?

No.

by Obnoxious Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:55 pm

8. SANDWICH?

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:02 pm

Appalamma wrote:8. SANDWICH?

No.

by b_A Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:30 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
4. Wooden furniture to support old calculator [3,5]
ARM CHAIR?

No.

LOG TABLE

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:32 pm

b_A wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
4. Wooden furniture to support old calculator [3,5]
ARM CHAIR?

No.

LOG TABLE

Correct.

by indophile Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:36 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [8]

MEDIATED?

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:42 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [8]
MEDIATED?

Close. Missing a letter to make complete sense. You need to explain the answer.

by b_A Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:43 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [8]
MEDIATED?

Isn't say a homonym indicator ?

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:47 pm

b_A wrote:
indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [8]
MEDIATED?
Isn't say a homonym indicator ?

It's not a homophone. More like clue within clue.

by Hellsangel Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:48 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [8]
MEDIATED?

Close. Missing a letter to make complete sense. You need to explain the answer.

MEDITATED? You gave the wrong letter count then.

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:54 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [8]
MEDIATED?

Close. Missing a letter to make complete sense. You need to explain the answer.

MEDITATED? You gave the wrong letter count then.

Oops, should be 9. Indo deserves credit for his answer then. Medi(T)ated is correct.

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:05 pm

Correction on 10:

10. Seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]

Should be: Roughly seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]

by Hellsangel Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:02 pm

2. IN(ST)AN-CE?

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:05 pm

Hellsangel wrote:2. IN(ST)AN-CE?

No.

by Hellsangel Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:42 pm

9. HE + A + NUT + SHE --> UNSHEATHE?

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Hellsangel wrote:9. HE + A + NUT + SHE --> UNSHEATHE?

Correct.

by indophile Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:52 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]

VOCATION?

by goodcitizn Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:47 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]

VOCATION?

No.

by bw Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:47 am

1. Punished the kid saved from electric shock [8]

GROUNDED (dbl defn)

by bw Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:47 am

2. Minister in holy surroundings for once [8]

P(REV)IOUS (REV inside PIOUS)

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:02 am

bw wrote:1. Punished the kid saved from electric shock [8]

GROUNDED (dbl defn)

Correct.

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:02 am

bw wrote:
2. Minister in holy surroundings for once [8]

P(REV)IOUS (REV inside PIOUS)

Correct.

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:05 am

Remaining clues:

5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]

7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]

10. Roughly seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:33 am

Hint: Check synonym of key word highlighted.

5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]

7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]

10. Roughly seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]

by bw Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:44 am

7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]

ANCESTRY ( anag of ASCENT + RY(railway?))

10. Roughly seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]

EPILEPSY (PILE inside anagram of ESPY?)

i thought of this but wasn't expecting an anagram of a synonym and ruled it out.

by bw Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:51 am

5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

TRAGEDY?

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:54 am

bw wrote:
7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]

ANCESTRY ( anag of ASCENT + RY(railway?))

10. Roughly seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]

EPILEPSY (PILE inside anagram of ESPY?)

i thought of this but wasn't expecting an anagram of a synonym and ruled it out.

Both are correct. Ry is occasionally used although RR is more common. When I was setting up "epilepsy" I mistook it to be e(pile)spy and only later saw my mistake! So added "roughly" to eke out a solution to my dilemma! Wink

by indophile Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:06 pm

goodcitizn wrote:Hint: Check synonym of key word highlighted.

5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

SETBACKS?

by indophile Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:09 pm

goodcitizn wrote:Hint: Check synonym of key word highlighted.
6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]

STATEMENTS?

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:24 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:Hint: Check synonym of key word highlighted.

5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]
SETBACKS?

No. Reverse has other meanings.

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:26 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:Hint: Check synonym of key word highlighted.
6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]
STATEMENTS?

No. What is it when you make remarks, notes etc?

by b_A Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:33 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:Hint: Check synonym of key word highlighted.
6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]
STATEMENTS?

No. What is it when you make remarks, notes etc?

ANNOTATION - NOT A NATION

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:24 pm

b_A wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:Hint: Check synonym of key word highlighted.
6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]
STATEMENTS?

No. What is it when you make remarks, notes etc?

ANNOTATION - NOT A NATION

Correct. [AN(Not)ATION]

by goodcitizn Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:26 pm

bw wrote:
5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

TRAGEDY?

No.

by Hellsangel Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:21 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
bw wrote:
5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

TRAGEDY?

No.

S-WITCH-ES?

by bw Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:33 am

goodcitizn wrote:
bw wrote:
5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

TRAGEDY?

No.

ANTONYMS (ANTONY + ms)

by goodcitizn Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:11 am

bw wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
bw wrote:
5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]

TRAGEDY?

No.

ANTONYMS (ANTONY + ms)

Phew! Yes! The set is done.

by bw Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:20 am

thank you, GC, for a very nice set - it was a tough one but very fair and precise.

i enjoyed cracking these.

by goodcitizn Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:07 am

SOLUTIONS:

1. Punished the kid saved from electric shock [8]
GROUNDED [Dbl def]

2. Minister in holy surroundings for once [8]
PREVIOUS [P(Rev)IOUS]

3. Weight-watchers' need sound setting [6]
LOCALE [Homophone - Low Cal]

4. Wooden furniture to support old calculator [3,5]
LOG TABLE [Dbl def]

5. Shakespeare's lover manuscript reverses [8]
ANTONYMS [Antony +MS]

6. Remarks on never dividing a country [10]
ANNOTATION [AN(not)ATION]

7. Unsteady ascent on track line [8]
ANCESTRY [Anag of ASCENT + Ry]

8. Used go-between with tea, say, to be considered [9]
MEDITATED [Medi(T)ated]

9. He, a nut, and she somewhat, withdraw from the case [9]
UNSHEATHE [Anag - he, a nut, she]

10. Roughly seeing lump inside fits medically-speaking [8]
EPILEPSY [E(pile)SPY - Anag]

Thanks Indo, b_A, HA, bw and Appalamma for participating.

by goodcitizn Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:12 am

bw wrote:thank you, GC, for a very nice set - it was a tough one but very fair and precise.
i enjoyed cracking these.

Thanks, Halcy. Like old times, eh? Who'll set the next one?

by bw Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:43 am

goodcitizn wrote:
bw wrote:thank you, GC, for a very nice set - it was a tough one but very fair and precise.
i enjoyed cracking these.

Thanks, Halcy. Like old times, eh? Who'll set the next one?

time to introduce the missing letters, deliberate typos, animals and birds? :-)

if no one else volunteers, i will do it. i wish there were a few more participants.

by goodcitizn Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:58 am

bw wrote:time to introduce the missing letters, deliberate typos, animals and birds?

:-)

if no one else volunteers, i will do it. i wish there were a few more participants.

Yes, let us start using some themes like in the old days. Pls do the next.

by yogi Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:33 am

I look at the cryptics and wonder how does some random sentence indicate another word. I tried solving after looking at the solutions but find them impossibly tough.

Can anyone shed some light on how to solve the cryptics?

by goodcitizn Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:55 am

yogi wrote:I look at the cryptics and wonder how does some random sentence indicate another word. I tried solving after looking at the solutions but find them impossibly tough.

Can anyone shed some light on how to solve the cryptics?

I'll wait for Indo to answer your question. He had posted a detailed explanation to help novices in the past. Once you get the hang of it, Yogi, you will begin to levitate from your lotus position purely from the enjoyment of solving them. Wink

by indophile Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:16 pm

goodcitizn wrote:
yogi wrote:I look at the cryptics and wonder how does some random sentence indicate another word. I tried solving after looking at the solutions but find them impossibly tough.

Can anyone shed some light on how to solve the cryptics?

I'll wait for Indo to answer your question. He had posted a detailed explanation to help novices in the past. Once you get the hang of it, Yogi, you will begin to levitate from your lotus position purely from the enjoyment of solving them.

I did one but Mohita did a really nice tutorial in the old Sulekha. May be yours and bw's sets could lure her in again. I saw Churi post something here a few months back. Who knows! May be we will have more people trying to solve these things soon. As for Yogi, I tried digging up those old tutorials from Sulekha, but no luck. May be the following link is a simple enough place to start.
http://puzzlecrypt.com/page/clue-guide

by goodcitizn Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:09 pm

indophile wrote:
goodcitizn wrote:
yogi wrote:I look at the cryptics and wonder how does some random sentence indicate another word. I tried solving after looking at the solutions but find them impossibly tough.

Can anyone shed some light on how to solve the cryptics?

I'll wait for Indo to answer your question. He had posted a detailed explanation to help novices in the past. Once you get the hang of it, Yogi, you will begin to levitate from your lotus position purely from the enjoyment of solving them.

I did one but Mohita did a really nice tutorial in the old Sulekha. May be yours and bw's sets could lure her in again. I saw Churi post something here a few months back. Who knows! May be we will have more people trying to solve these things soon. As for Yogi, I tried digging up those old tutorials from Sulekha, but no luck. May be the following link is a simple enough place to start.
[url=http://puzzlecrypt.com/page/clue-guide

http://puzzlecrypt.com/page/clue-guide[/quote[/url]]

Thanks, Indo, for giving yogi a link. He may get intimidated just by reading the explanation but my advice to him is, in addition to knowing what "homophones", "anagrams", "components", "truncations" etc are, to firsts look up the solutions to cryptics from the past SuCH sets and deciphering how each one is coined and solved. It's fun to crack them once you get the hang of it.

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