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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:10 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
When a hindu marries a muslim, the hindu practices iSlam.

When a Tamil marries a Hindian, the Tamil speaks Hindi.

Why ?

nah, chuck both and speak english and more importantly, ban kollywood and bollywood.

I am talking from family experience in which a couple of coujins married Naarthies and quickly learnt Hindi. The spouses never learnt Tamil.

So basically, the Tamilans converted to Hindianism.

BS. my aunt a maharashtrian speaks fluent tamil.

Make that 3.. I rememberd one more.

My sample bigger than yours...So I am right...Razz

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Post by bw Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:19 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
When a hindu marries a muslim, the hindu practices iSlam.

When a Tamil marries a Hindian, the Tamil speaks Hindi.

Why ?

nah, chuck both and speak english and more importantly, ban kollywood and bollywood.

I am talking from family experience in which a couple of coujins married Naarthies and quickly learnt Hindi. The spouses never learnt Tamil.

So basically, the Tamilans converted to Hindianism.

BS. my aunt a maharashtrian speaks fluent tamil.

Make that 3.. I rememberd one more.  

My sample bigger than yours...So I am right...Razz
what you say is largely true - except for a few exceptions, the tamilian picks up hindi. most south indian nri kids i know do bollywood dance.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:21 pm

bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
bw wrote:

nah, chuck both and speak english and more importantly, ban kollywood and bollywood.

I am talking from family experience in which a couple of coujins married Naarthies and quickly learnt Hindi. The spouses never learnt Tamil.

So basically, the Tamilans converted to Hindianism.

BS. my aunt a maharashtrian speaks fluent tamil.

Make that 3.. I rememberd one more.  

My sample bigger than yours...So I am right...Razz
what you say is largely true - except for a few exceptions, the tamilian picks up hindi. most south indian nri kids i know do bollywood dance.

i am not surprised tamilians have excellent linguistic skills.
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Post by bw Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:27 pm

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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
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Eventually this is what will happen--people speaking only in English and both tamil and hindi becoming largely extinct.

speak for your own language. tamilians have more pride in their language and will not let this happen.

You can speak at most for your generation. You cannot speak for future generations. I have come across many Tamilians whose tamil is poor (according to them) or who can speak tamil adequately  but not read or write in it.

there are tamilians outside india. maybe a few losers in india may take that attitude, but tamil has already escaped the boundaries of india.


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Post by bw Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:28 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

I am talking from family experience in which a couple of coujins married Naarthies and quickly learnt Hindi. The spouses never learnt Tamil.

So basically, the Tamilans converted to Hindianism.

BS. my aunt a maharashtrian speaks fluent tamil.

Make that 3.. I rememberd one more.  

My sample bigger than yours...So I am right...Razz
what you say is largely true - except for a few exceptions, the tamilian picks up hindi. most south indian nri kids i know do bollywood dance.

i am not surprised tamilians have excellent linguistic skills.
...not ingratiating skills?  Twisted Evil

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:40 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

I am talking from family experience in which a couple of coujins married Naarthies and quickly learnt Hindi. The spouses never learnt Tamil.

So basically, the Tamilans converted to Hindianism.

BS. my aunt a maharashtrian speaks fluent tamil.

Make that 3.. I rememberd one more.  

My sample bigger than yours...So I am right...Razz
what you say is largely true - except for a few exceptions, the tamilian picks up hindi. most south indian nri kids i know do bollywood dance.

i am not surprised tamilians have excellent linguistic skills.

I agree... Only those who are secure and confident of ones heritage and language will not be afraid of learning another langauge. Also, the Southies are much smarter and are capable of learning Hindi.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:41 pm

bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

BS. my aunt a maharashtrian speaks fluent tamil.

Make that 3.. I rememberd one more.  

My sample bigger than yours...So I am right...Razz
what you say is largely true - except for a few exceptions, the tamilian picks up hindi. most south indian nri kids i know do bollywood dance.

i am not surprised tamilians have excellent linguistic skills.
...not ingratiating skills?  Twisted Evil

tamilians were some of the first people to migrate. they did what it takes to survive. they are proud, but also a pragmatic people.
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:50 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Make that 3.. I rememberd one more.  

My sample bigger than yours...So I am right...Razz
what you say is largely true - except for a few exceptions, the tamilian picks up hindi. most south indian nri kids i know do bollywood dance.

i am not surprised tamilians have excellent linguistic skills.
...not ingratiating skills?  Twisted Evil

tamilians were some of the first people to migrate. they did what it takes to survive. they are proud, but also a pragmatic people.

Yep..a case point our SL tamilian brothers.

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Post by bw Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:54 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
what you say is largely true - except for a few exceptions, the tamilian picks up hindi. most south indian nri kids i know do bollywood dance.

i am not surprised tamilians have excellent linguistic skills.
...not ingratiating skills?  Twisted Evil

tamilians were some of the first people to migrate. they did what it takes to survive. they are proud, but also a pragmatic people.

Yep..a case point our SL tamilian brothers.

don't forget to include the losers like me as well. there are many like me.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:55 pm

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I agree with it partially, not completely. I think there are multiple factors at work. When I was in Vellore I was sitting on this bus and I did not know where to get off ( when my stop would arrive). I tried asking the bus conductor: could you please let me know when my stop arrives. This is a common request I have made to bus drivers or bus conductors in India, Canada, and the US whenever I have had to use the bus for transportation. This was the only time in my life that the bus conductor declined to help me with the words "hum ko English nahi maloom, humko English nahi maloom. Only Tamil."

This single incident could have easily resulted in my developing a dislike for all Tamilians and a few more incidents of this type could have caused me to hate all Tamilians. What saved me from becoming a chauvinist was probably the fact that I knew some Tamilians very closely. I knew I could not hate all Tamilians because I loved one particular Tamilian and besides I knew other nice and pleasant and affectionate Tamilians.

My thinking is that some incidents of the kind I experienced resulted in the anti-NI mindset of several of the posters here. But there could also be other factors at work. For instance brainwashing from birth from one or both parents.

or reading the history of hindi imposition in their state. tamilians welcome all kinds of people as their own. many so called "tamil" politicians have actually been from other states, but they are people who immersed themselves in the language. so too movie stars like rajnikanth.  it is understandable since theirs is not a johnny-come-lately language and has an ancient and rich heritage that they want to preserve and that they think is worth preserving.  the idea of hindi imposition is a direct threat to that. you take that way and let people do what they want of their free will and tamils will calm down.  there is no hatred of people, but a hatred of hegemonic tendencies and ideas. that will be firmly dealt with.

Max please share your views on the following. Notice that no North Indian is involved here:

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These are all changing times in Tamil Nadu's politics.

A state, which saw massive and rabid anti-Hindi agitations, is now giving birth to a political party that openly says Hindi should be taught in government schools up to the fifth standard.

R.C. Paul Kanagaraj (49), president, Madras High Court Advocates' Association, and founder president of Tamil Maanila Katchi, a new political outfit, also said his party will fight for bringing an end to the "discrimination" of Brahmins in Tamil Nadu's political and social life.

"As a father, I am feeling the pinch of not only my ignorance of Hindi but also the loss of my son not knowing the national language. Not knowing Hindi is creating huge impediments in my son's developments. This is the reason for me to think and start a political party with like minded people in this direction. We will fight for the state government to make Hindi a compulsory subject at least up to Class V," Kanagaraj told Indiatoday.in.

He said by shunning Hindi and adopting two-language formula of Tamil and English has taken away opportunities for Tamil Nadu students.

"If I go to any other part of the country, people understand Hindi. Whatever may be their mother tongue, Telugu, Malayalam, Gujarati, Marathi or Bengali - they can converse with each other because they knew Hindi. But we Tamilians are solely dependent on English and since many of those coming from the rest of India are not able to speak English, it has become increasingly difficult to share our feelings and thoughts. We feel the pinch," said Kanagaraj.

Another objective of the new outfit is end "discrimination" against Brahmins.

"There is a deep-seated animosity prevailing against Brahmins in Tamil Nadu. They are sidelined and wounded in the state's social life. Openly, political parties accuse them and curse them in public rallies. These parties are using the age-old divide and rule policy by raking up Aryan-Dravidian theories though these became outdated long ago. We want to create an atmosphere where our Brahmin brothers too feel they are not being looked upon with prejudiced eyes."

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/chennai-lawyer-launches-pro-hindi-pro-brahmin-party/1/344381.html

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:58 pm

bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

i am not surprised tamilians have excellent linguistic skills.
...not ingratiating skills?  Twisted Evil

tamilians were some of the first people to migrate. they did what it takes to survive. they are proud, but also a pragmatic people.

Yep..a case point our SL tamilian brothers.

don't forget to include the losers like me as well. there are many like me.

i think the dravidian movement alientated a lot of tambrahms who took out their ire on the language, as that was a powerful tool of the dravidian movement. it is unfortunate that some passed on this sentiment to their children and grandchildren. many tambrahms unfortunately threw the baby out with the bathwater. an unfortunate outcome indeed.
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Post by bw Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:11 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
bw wrote:
...not ingratiating skills?  Twisted Evil

tamilians were some of the first people to migrate. they did what it takes to survive. they are proud, but also a pragmatic people.

Yep..a case point our SL tamilian brothers.

don't forget to include the losers like me as well. there are many like me.

i think the dravidian movement alientated a lot of tambrahms who took out their ire on the language, as that was a powerful tool of the dravidian movement. it is unfortunate that some passed on this sentiment to their children and grandchildren. many tambrahms unfortunately threw the baby out with the bathwater. an unfortunate outcome indeed.

that's not true in my case. my mother was always very fond of tamil literature and was always reading a lot of it. of course, she also read hindi and english stuff. she always encouraged us to study tamil literature but it had no effect on me. my dad didn't speak a word of hindi. we were never brainwashed into developing any ire towards the language.

i am just a no excuses loser and that's that. only english appealed to me and i was glad to get rid of both hindi and tamil.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:39 pm

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i think the dravidian movement alientated a lot of tambrahms who took out their ire on the language, as that was a powerful tool of the dravidian movement. it is unfortunate that some passed on this sentiment to their children and grandchildren. many tambrahms unfortunately threw the baby out with the bathwater. an unfortunate outcome indeed.

The DK movement was anti-hindi, and they also "spread" their belief that Tambrahms are naarthHindian Aryans and hence sympathetic to hindi. They assumed Brahmin sanskrit use in mantras as their "rashmunesque" proof. Add to it the likes of Rajaji who pushed Hindi. Naturally, the Tambrahms and DKheads developed a strong dislike for each other forever. The Tambrahms overwhelmigly voted for ADMK since MGR came on the scene - who was born to a Brahmin woman.

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Post by swapna Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:52 pm

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Good of u to tell your fellow Gultis to cut it out but you also should not have taken cheap shots at Luke by indicating that he is being petty and mean minded when he brags about the success of his kids and takes some of the credit for this. You were not there when Luke was raising his kids so you do not know what role Luke played in shaping the future of his children.
That's my opinion in general and I was telling that to the posters criticizing flimflam; how is it taking pot shots at Flimflam? I don't need to know as to how much effort he put into shaping his kids, it is a given for 99.99% of parents of Indian origin living in America, so he did nothing special. If his kids graduated from#1 schools in the world, congrats to them and good for him.  

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Btw, am I wrong in thinking that it is only Gults in this forum ( not all, but many of them) who like to attack a poster by targeting him through his children? Just shows the unhealthy mentality of many of these people.
Well, If my memory serves me right, FF initiated & indulged in this type of tawdry behavior i.e. dragging Propa's family to attack him but it doesn't give them any license to badmouth FF's kids. Why don't you ask him to stop doing that.
your memory does not serve you right.

I have made fun of propagandhi for his juvenility, crudeness, idiocy, and ignorance, for example, when:

1) he complained at chat that vANi does not shave her legs, perhaps hoping that the women here would jump into bed with him out of sympathy. I don't know why he thought that this was an effective strategy, but I'm sure that Bittu.Singh, who was his mentor and hero, fed him a lot of lies about his own success with the supposedly promiscuous women here.

2) he bragged that vaaNi is a kannadiga, and not a telugu, meaning that he had risen above telugu women.

3) he would get excited about random photos of celebrities, models, and "hotttt" women he found on the internet, who didn't even know of his existence, presumably experiencing a massive erection, and spilling his seed on the arid, texas prairie.

4) he would excitedly post about his fetish for a combination of sex, blood, violence, and feces, exemplified by his fascination with Cleveland Steamers and Fleshlights (look them up).

5) he proudly told us that he has a foot-long "penius" (plural: "penii"), revealing his ignorant belief that if six inches is good, a foot must be doubly good, for every woman is supposedly an endless hole.

There's more, but you get the idea.

My posts about Propa711 have almost always been in response to his, and in the spirit of fun and laughter. I wish he wouldn't be so angry and upset. We all love our Propzu.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:05 am

swapna wrote:I am deeply hurt by the attribution of the appellation "northindian" to someone other than me. May I say it unequivocally? I coined that word.  And I did so in order to trivialize the common, innocuous term, "north indian."

My intent has been to give the northindians a.taste of their own medicine, but in double measure. I wanted to heap contempt on them for their cultural habits, without any explanation or appeal to their good sense or intelligence. Why? Because the time for such appeals has long been exhausted. After six decades, is utterly futile to seek -- as that gander whnngCtzn does -- their understanding of why freedoms are important to everyone.

By and large, I am skeptical of northindians, and of southern indians who kow-tow to them or overlook their serious flaws.

I appreciate all the posts that Rashmun has made here, especially about the Indian general election, and his determined efforts to keep them civil under intense pressure and provocation, while honestly expressing his opinions.

There's more to be said, especially about tribal loyalties, but I have  appointments to keep.

Please finish what you wanted to say on tribal loyalty. Thanks.

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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:37 am

swapna wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Good of u to tell your fellow Gultis to cut it out but you also should not have taken cheap shots at Luke by indicating that he is being petty and mean minded when he brags about the success of his kids and takes some of the credit for this. You were not there when Luke was raising his kids so you do not know what role Luke played in shaping the future of his children.
That's my opinion in general and I was telling that to the posters criticizing flimflam; how is it taking pot shots at Flimflam? I don't need to know as to how much effort he put into shaping his kids, it is a given for 99.99% of parents of Indian origin living in America, so he did nothing special. If his kids graduated from#1 schools in the world, congrats to them and good for him.  

Rashmun wrote:
Btw, am I wrong in thinking that it is only Gults in this forum ( not all, but many of them) who like to attack a poster by targeting him through his children? Just shows the unhealthy mentality of many of these people.
Well, If my memory serves me right, FF initiated & indulged in this type of tawdry behavior i.e. dragging Propa's family to attack him but it doesn't give them any license to badmouth FF's kids. Why don't you ask him to stop doing that.
your memory does not serve you right.

I have made fun of propagandhi for his juvenility, crudeness, idiocy, and ignorance, for example, when:

1) he complained at chat that vANi does not shave her legs, perhaps hoping that the women here would jump into bed with him out of sympathy. I don't know why he thought that this was an effective strategy, but I'm sure that Bittu.Singh, who was his mentor and hero, fed him a lot of lies about his own success with the supposedly promiscuous women here.
My memory is just fine. That's the excuse you had used all along to attack him, it gets stale after a decade and is not even remotely funny, hope you realize that. Your disciple Rashmun used the same technique (bringing up some stuff from chat) to run Tracy away.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:40 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
swapna wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Good of u to tell your fellow Gultis to cut it out but you also should not have taken cheap shots at Luke by indicating that he is being petty and mean minded when he brags about the success of his kids and takes some of the credit for this. You were not there when Luke was raising his kids so you do not know what role Luke played in shaping the future of his children.
That's my opinion in general and I was telling that to the posters criticizing flimflam; how is it taking pot shots at Flimflam? I don't need to know as to how much effort he put into shaping his kids, it is a given for 99.99% of parents of Indian origin living in America, so he did nothing special. If his kids graduated from#1 schools in the world, congrats to them and good for him.  

Rashmun wrote:
Btw, am I wrong in thinking that it is only Gults in this forum ( not all, but many of them) who like to attack a poster by targeting him through his children? Just shows the unhealthy mentality of many of these people.
Well, If my memory serves me right, FF initiated & indulged in this type of tawdry behavior i.e. dragging Propa's family to attack him but it doesn't give them any license to badmouth FF's kids. Why don't you ask him to stop doing that.
your memory does not serve you right.

I have made fun of propagandhi for his juvenility, crudeness, idiocy, and ignorance, for example, when:

1) he complained at chat that vANi does not shave her legs, perhaps hoping that the women here would jump into bed with him out of sympathy. I don't know why he thought that this was an effective strategy, but I'm sure that Bittu.Singh, who was his mentor and hero, fed him a lot of lies about his own success with the supposedly promiscuous women here.
My memory is just fine. That's the excuse you had used all along to attack him, it gets stale after a decade and is not even remotely funny, hope you realize that. Your disciple Rashmun used the same technique (bringing up some stuff from chat) to run Tracy away.

What rubbish. I never used any stuff from chat against Tracy.

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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:42 am

Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
swapna wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Good of u to tell your fellow Gultis to cut it out but you also should not have taken cheap shots at Luke by indicating that he is being petty and mean minded when he brags about the success of his kids and takes some of the credit for this. You were not there when Luke was raising his kids so you do not know what role Luke played in shaping the future of his children.
That's my opinion in general and I was telling that to the posters criticizing flimflam; how is it taking pot shots at Flimflam? I don't need to know as to how much effort he put into shaping his kids, it is a given for 99.99% of parents of Indian origin living in America, so he did nothing special. If his kids graduated from#1 schools in the world, congrats to them and good for him.  

Rashmun wrote:
Btw, am I wrong in thinking that it is only Gults in this forum ( not all, but many of them) who like to attack a poster by targeting him through his children? Just shows the unhealthy mentality of many of these people.
Well, If my memory serves me right, FF initiated & indulged in this type of tawdry behavior i.e. dragging Propa's family to attack him but it doesn't give them any license to badmouth FF's kids. Why don't you ask him to stop doing that.
your memory does not serve you right.

I have made fun of propagandhi for his juvenility, crudeness, idiocy, and ignorance, for example, when:

1) he complained at chat that vANi does not shave her legs, perhaps hoping that the women here would jump into bed with him out of sympathy. I don't know why he thought that this was an effective strategy, but I'm sure that Bittu.Singh, who was his mentor and hero, fed him a lot of lies about his own success with the supposedly promiscuous women here.
My memory is just fine. That's the excuse you had used all along to attack him, it gets stale after a decade and is not even remotely funny, hope you realize that. Your disciple Rashmun used the same technique (bringing up some stuff from chat) to run Tracy away.

What rubbish. I never used any stuff from chat against Tracy.
Really! didn't you bring up chat conversation about her sharing Kinnera's family picture or something to that effect?

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:45 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
swapna wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
That's my opinion in general and I was telling that to the posters criticizing flimflam; how is it taking pot shots at Flimflam? I don't need to know as to how much effort he put into shaping his kids, it is a given for 99.99% of parents of Indian origin living in America, so he did nothing special. If his kids graduated from#1 schools in the world, congrats to them and good for him.  


Well, If my memory serves me right, FF initiated & indulged in this type of tawdry behavior i.e. dragging Propa's family to attack him but it doesn't give them any license to badmouth FF's kids. Why don't you ask him to stop doing that.
your memory does not serve you right.

I have made fun of propagandhi for his juvenility, crudeness, idiocy, and ignorance, for example, when:

1) he complained at chat that vANi does not shave her legs, perhaps hoping that the women here would jump into bed with him out of sympathy. I don't know why he thought that this was an effective strategy, but I'm sure that Bittu.Singh, who was his mentor and hero, fed him a lot of lies about his own success with the supposedly promiscuous women here.
My memory is just fine. That's the excuse you had used all along to attack him, it gets stale after a decade and is not even remotely funny, hope you realize that. Your disciple Rashmun used the same technique (bringing up some stuff from chat) to run Tracy away.

What rubbish. I never used any stuff from chat against Tracy.
Really! didn't you bring up chat conversation about her sharing Kinnera's family picture or something to that effect?

That piece of information was not gleaned from chat.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:34 am

*deleted a reasonable response i had crafted to rashmun's post about lawyer kanagaraj because i don't think his agenda deserves a reasonable response.*
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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:*deleted a reasonable response i had crafted to rashmun's post about lawyer kanagaraj because i don't think his agenda deserves a reasonable response.*

Max's response was: he agrees with kanagaraj's views on fighting to remove biases and prejudices against brahmins in TN whole heartedly. However, he would only endorse the teaching of hindi in tamil nadu school uptil grade 5 compulsorily--what kanagaraj wants--on the basis of reciprocity. so schools in hindi speaking states should teach tamil till grade 5 compulsorily to their students.

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in this connection, here is something for both Max and Luke Warmus:

If I remember correctly from news in the media at that time, Bansi Lal (then CM of Haryana) proposed that Telugu would be taught as 2nd language in Haryana schools leading to future Haryanavis knowing at least two Indian languages, one from North India (Hindi) and the other from South India (Telugu). It was not something planned at the expense of any other language, Punjabi and English for example. The state government was still interested in teaching English etc. in schools, in addition to Telugu as state’s 2nd language.

Haryana Govt. also had the plans, if I remember correctly, to have a special ‘sister states’ relationship between Haryana and Andhra, on the model of sister-cities. Unfortunately, it seems to have been only one-sided ‘love affair’, mainly on the part of Haryana, with little enthusiasm and response from Andhra. Andhra politicians probably did not see much benefit from such cozy relationship with a remote northern state, and might have thought that if Andhras were going to put any effort in north India, it might be better to do with Delhi, for a bigger piece of pie, rather than Haryana or Chandigarh, having little to offer. Needless to say, this one-sided undertaking on the part of Haryanavis, with respect to Andhra and Telugu, was not going to succeed, and that’s what happened.

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Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:*deleted a reasonable response i had crafted to rashmun's post about lawyer kanagaraj because i don't think his agenda deserves a reasonable response.*

Max's response was: he agrees with kanagaraj's views on fighting to remove biases and prejudices against brahmins in TN whole heartedly. However, he would only endorse the teaching of hindi in tamil nadu school uptil grade 5 compulsorily--what kanagaraj wants--on the basis of reciprocity. so schools in hindi speaking states should teach tamil till grade 5 compulsorily to their students.

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in this connection, here is something for both Max and Luke Warmus:

If I remember correctly from news in the media at that time, Bansi Lal (then CM of Haryana) proposed that Telugu would be taught as 2nd language in Haryana schools leading to future Haryanavis knowing at least two Indian languages, one from North India (Hindi) and the other from South India (Telugu). It was not something planned at the expense of any other language, Punjabi and English for example. The state government was still interested in teaching English etc. in schools, in addition to Telugu as state’s 2nd language.

Haryana Govt. also had the plans, if I remember correctly, to have a special ‘sister states’ relationship between Haryana and Andhra, on the model of sister-cities. Unfortunately, it seems to have been only one-sided ‘love affair’, mainly on the part of Haryana, with little enthusiasm and response from Andhra. Andhra politicians probably did not see much benefit from such cozy relationship with a remote northern state, and might have thought that if Andhras were going to put any effort in north India, it might be better to do with Delhi, for a bigger piece of pie, rather than Haryana or Chandigarh, having little to offer. Needless to say, this one-sided undertaking on the part of Haryanavis, with respect to Andhra and Telugu, was not going to succeed, and that’s what happened.

in accordance with the three language formula, right now sanskrit is being taught to students in hindi speaking schools as the third language. it might be a good idea to offer tamil as an optional subject to these students along with sanskrit. why tamil and not kannada, telugu, or malaylam? because tamil is the oldest indian language after sanskrit and knowing tamil gives you access to a lot more historical literature. something to think about anyways.

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B.S.N.V. P.G. College is situated at the heart of Lucknow city at a walkable distance of ½ km. from Charbagh Railway Station. It is a co-educational associated college of Lucknow University, which conducts U.G. Programmes in Arts, Science and Commerce and P.G. Programmes in Zoology, Hindi and Sociology. The College has been accredited 'B' grade by NAAC in January, 2013.

It has spacious class rooms, well equipped laboratories and state of art seminar room and excellent space for indoor games. It has approximately 3500 students, over 75 faculties, administrative and supportive staff and multi-disciplinary courses of study for boys and girls. Guided by an enlightened, supportive and dedicated Managing Committee the college has become a hallmark of education and exemplary discipline.

We are also running “BhartiyaBhasa Kendra” sanctioned by the Govt. of Uttar Pradesh with a view to promote communal and emotional harmony along with national integration among different states of the country and neighbouring countries. In this centre 13 regional language i.e. Tamil, Telgu, Kannad, Mayalam, Begali, Oriya, Marathi, Gujarati, Asamee, Sindhi, Punjabi, Kashmeeri and Nepali are taught. The session starts from July and the entire reading material is provided by the Govt. of U.P. The minimum qualification to take admission in this programme in 10+2.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:19 am

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B.S.N.V. P.G. College is situated at the heart of Lucknow city at a walkable distance of ½ km. from Charbagh Railway Station.  It is a co-educational associated college of Lucknow University, which conducts U.G. Programmes in Arts, Science and Commerce and P.G. Programmes in Zoology, Hindi and Sociology. The College has been accredited 'B' grade by NAAC in January, 2013.

It has spacious class rooms, well equipped laboratories and state of art seminar room and excellent space for indoor games.  It has approximately 3500 students, over 75 faculties, administrative and supportive staff and multi-disciplinary courses of study for boys and girls.  Guided by an enlightened, supportive and dedicated Managing Committee the college has become a hallmark of education and exemplary discipline.

We are also running “BhartiyaBhasa Kendra” sanctioned by the Govt. of Uttar Pradesh with a view to promote communal and emotional harmony along with national integration among different states of the country and neighbouring countries.  In this centre 13 regional language i.e. Tamil, Telgu, Kannad, Mayalam, Begali, Oriya, Marathi, Gujarati, Asamee, Sindhi, Punjabi, Kashmeeri and Nepali are taught.  The session starts from July and the entire reading material is provided by the Govt. of U.P.  The minimum qualification to take admission in this programme in 10+2.

http://www.bsnvpgcollege.in/principal_desk.html

Anything but Sanskrit in schools ... that should make you happy Rashmun.
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Post by Propagandhi711 Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:29 am

Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,

You are a shameless guy. Even when that abominable human being flimflam spits in your face, you do not have the courage to admit your error. Any person with any sense of self respect would just find a way to hide themselves from this self humiliation.

TBT, what about Voltaire's statement: "I do not believe a word of what you say but I will defend with my life your right to say it". I am only following what Voltaire has recommended. Additionally, I appreciate Luke's efforts to fight against region based and language based cliques. Everyone should be able to express his views without concern of being collectively flamed by a clique of posters joined together at the hip because of "tribal loyalty".
What cliques & tribal loyalty? Are you saying that Vakavaka & Idefix, for all their ideological differences (on almost every topic), they gang up when it comes to anything pertinent to NI? Do you realize that you're demeaning the intelligence & integrity of telugu posters on this board with foolish comments like they're following their leader or being cliquish.

Vakavaka and Panini are an exception. Vakavaka and Panini used to fight and mock each other on Sulekha because in their case their attitude towards religion trumped regionalism. They had very strong views on religion with Panini being an atheist and Vakavaka being a staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu. But I have never seen them slamming or mocking each other's attitude towards religion on this forum in the way they would on Sulekha.  In fact both Vakavaka and Panini have both been slamming North Indians on this forum. Tribal Loyalty ultimately triumphed even here.

douchemun, what strikes me about you after 10 yrs is that you always have an ulterior agenda on pretty much every topic you choose to argue about. it wouldn't be unusual except that you are also a poseur that posts voluminously trying to come across as an intellectual, so you can be fairly characterized as an intellectually dishonest geek without much in the way of merit. infact that's your net legacy: a intellectually dishonest lightweight/midget and that's my honest assessment of you. I think it's a majority opinion by a long shot.

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Propagandhi711 wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,

You are a shameless guy. Even when that abominable human being flimflam spits in your face, you do not have the courage to admit your error. Any person with any sense of self respect would just find a way to hide themselves from this self humiliation.

TBT, what about Voltaire's statement: "I do not believe a word of what you say but I will defend with my life your right to say it". I am only following what Voltaire has recommended. Additionally, I appreciate Luke's efforts to fight against region based and language based cliques. Everyone should be able to express his views without concern of being collectively flamed by a clique of posters joined together at the hip because of "tribal loyalty".
What cliques & tribal loyalty? Are you saying that Vakavaka & Idefix, for all their ideological differences (on almost every topic), they gang up when it comes to anything pertinent to NI? Do you realize that you're demeaning the intelligence & integrity of telugu posters on this board with foolish comments like they're following their leader or being cliquish.

Vakavaka and Panini are an exception. Vakavaka and Panini used to fight and mock each other on Sulekha because in their case their attitude towards religion trumped regionalism. They had very strong views on religion with Panini being an atheist and Vakavaka being a staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu. But I have never seen them slamming or mocking each other's attitude towards religion on this forum in the way they would on Sulekha.  In fact both Vakavaka and Panini have both been slamming North Indians on this forum. Tribal Loyalty ultimately triumphed even here.

douchemun, what strikes me about you after 10 yrs is that you always have an ulterior agenda on pretty much every topic you choose to argue about. it wouldn't be unusual except that you are also a poseur that posts voluminously trying to come across as an intellectual, so you can be fairly characterized as an intellectually dishonest geek without much in the way of merit. infact that's your net legacy: a intellectually dishonest lightweight/midget and that's my honest assessment of you. I think it's a majority opinion by a long shot.

i prefer your earlier view of me: "geez what a geek". That's what you said when i introduced you to Tuppy Glossop.

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Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
B.S.N.V. P.G. College is situated at the heart of Lucknow city at a walkable distance of ½ km. from Charbagh Railway Station.  It is a co-educational associated college of Lucknow University, which conducts U.G. Programmes in Arts, Science and Commerce and P.G. Programmes in Zoology, Hindi and Sociology. The College has been accredited 'B' grade by NAAC in January, 2013.

It has spacious class rooms, well equipped laboratories and state of art seminar room and excellent space for indoor games.  It has approximately 3500 students, over 75 faculties, administrative and supportive staff and multi-disciplinary courses of study for boys and girls.  Guided by an enlightened, supportive and dedicated Managing Committee the college has become a hallmark of education and exemplary discipline.

We are also running “BhartiyaBhasa Kendra” sanctioned by the Govt. of Uttar Pradesh with a view to promote communal and emotional harmony along with national integration among different states of the country and neighbouring countries.  In this centre 13 regional language i.e. Tamil, Telgu, Kannad, Mayalam, Begali, Oriya, Marathi, Gujarati, Asamee, Sindhi, Punjabi, Kashmeeri and Nepali are taught.  The session starts from July and the entire reading material is provided by the Govt. of U.P.  The minimum qualification to take admission in this programme in 10+2.

http://www.bsnvpgcollege.in/principal_desk.html

Anything but Sanskrit in schools ... that should make you happy Rashmun.

sanskrit is taught in all schools of UP as a compulsory subject for minimum three years. At least that was the case in my time. This is something extra--after you have completed your schooling. But i agree that even here sanskrit can also be offered. It would be like a refresher course in sanskrit for those interested.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:51 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:
douchemun, what strikes me about you after 10 yrs is that you always have an ulterior agenda on pretty much every topic you choose to argue about. it wouldn't be unusual except that you are also a poseur that posts voluminously trying to come across as an intellectual, so you can be fairly characterized as an intellectually dishonest geek without much in the way of merit. infact that's your net legacy: a intellectually dishonest lightweight/midget and that's my honest assessment of you. I think it's a majority opinion by a long shot.

Al-Akbari gets a kick in seeing his thread going to page 3, 4, and 5....except it is because each posts is like Hanuman tail with his cut/paste passages stuck in.

Seriously, he has Psych issues.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:59 am

Rashmun wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

TBT, what about Voltaire's statement: "I do not believe a word of what you say but I will defend with my life your right to say it". I am only following what Voltaire has recommended. Additionally, I appreciate Luke's efforts to fight against region based and language based cliques. Everyone should be able to express his views without concern of being collectively flamed by a clique of posters joined together at the hip because of "tribal loyalty".
What cliques & tribal loyalty? Are you saying that Vakavaka & Idefix, for all their ideological differences (on almost every topic), they gang up when it comes to anything pertinent to NI? Do you realize that you're demeaning the intelligence & integrity of telugu posters on this board with foolish comments like they're following their leader or being cliquish.

Vakavaka and Panini are an exception. Vakavaka and Panini used to fight and mock each other on Sulekha because in their case their attitude towards religion trumped regionalism. They had very strong views on religion with Panini being an atheist and Vakavaka being a staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu. But I have never seen them slamming or mocking each other's attitude towards religion on this forum in the way they would on Sulekha.  In fact both Vakavaka and Panini have both been slamming North Indians on this forum. Tribal Loyalty ultimately triumphed even here.

douchemun, what strikes me about you after 10 yrs is that you always have an ulterior agenda on pretty much every topic you choose to argue about. it wouldn't be unusual except that you are also a poseur that posts voluminously trying to come across as an intellectual, so you can be fairly characterized as an intellectually dishonest geek without much in the way of merit. infact that's your net legacy: a intellectually dishonest lightweight/midget and that's my honest assessment of you. I think it's a majority opinion by a long shot.

i prefer your earlier view of me: "geez what a geek". That's what you said when i introduced you to Tuppy Glossop.

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Propa, my honest view of you: there is a part of you which i like, and a part of you which i dislike. if you would learn how to manage your anger and stop being abusive you would be a much better and more likable person. one more thing. there is a saying in hindi: 'dil ke acche, aur kaan ke kacche'. It roughly means a person who is good at heart, but who is liable to be manipulated by others (by what he hears from others). I think this saying, to some extent, applies to you. there was no reason for you at all to pick a fight with me after the fight that broke out between Panini and me. Tribal Loyalty and the fact that you can be manipulated by those you trust ensured that you went ahead and started fighting with me as well instead of staying neutral.  
incidentally, i don't really care about your sexual peccadillos--if any. that's your personal life and you are free to do whatever makes you happy.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:05 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
douchemun, what strikes me about you after 10 yrs is that you always have an ulterior agenda on pretty much every topic you choose to argue about. it wouldn't be unusual except that you are also a poseur that posts voluminously trying to come across as an intellectual, so you can be fairly characterized as an intellectually dishonest geek without much in the way of merit. infact that's your net legacy: a intellectually dishonest lightweight/midget and that's my honest assessment of you. I think it's a majority opinion by a long shot.

Al-Akbari gets a kick in seeing his thread going to page 3, 4, and 5....except it is because each posts is like Hanuman tail with his cut/paste passages stuck in.

Seriously, he has Psych issues.

i wonder why you suddenly stopped calling me Rashmunallah and have now started using another name for me. Care to explain?

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Post by b_A Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:06 am

Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
swapna wrote:
your memory does not serve you right.

I have made fun of propagandhi for his juvenility, crudeness, idiocy, and ignorance, for example, when:

1) he complained at chat that vANi does not shave her legs, perhaps hoping that the women here would jump into bed with him out of sympathy. I don't know why he thought that this was an effective strategy, but I'm sure that Bittu.Singh, who was his mentor and hero, fed him a lot of lies about his own success with the supposedly promiscuous women here.
My memory is just fine. That's the excuse you had used all along to attack him, it gets stale after a decade and is not even remotely funny, hope you realize that. Your disciple Rashmun used the same technique (bringing up some stuff from chat) to run Tracy away.

What rubbish. I never used any stuff from chat against Tracy.
Really! didn't you bring up chat conversation about her sharing Kinnera's family picture or something to that effect?

That piece of information was not gleaned from chat.

hahaha. So if it is not gleaned from chat , it is all right to use that piece.
Ladies and Gentlemen ,
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Post by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:13 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
When a hindu marries a muslim, the hindu practices iSlam.

When a Tamil marries a Hindian, the Tamil speaks Hindi.

Why ?

Becoz Hindian >> Kannadiga >> Teluguite >> Tamil??
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:43 pm

b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
My memory is just fine. That's the excuse you had used all along to attack him, it gets stale after a decade and is not even remotely funny, hope you realize that. Your disciple Rashmun used the same technique (bringing up some stuff from chat) to run Tracy away.

What rubbish. I never used any stuff from chat against Tracy.
Really! didn't you bring up chat conversation about her sharing Kinnera's family picture or something to that effect?

That piece of information was not gleaned from chat.

hahaha. So if it is not gleaned from chat , it is all right to use that piece.
Ladies and Gentlemen ,
Nothing illustrates the hindiot's character better than this post.

if anyone wants to know the truth about kinns' pics, feel free to send me a note.

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Post by b_A Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:16 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
What cliques & tribal loyalty? Are you saying that Vakavaka & Idefix, for all their ideological differences (on almost every topic), they gang up when it comes to anything pertinent to NI? Do you realize that you're demeaning the intelligence & integrity of telugu posters on this board with foolish comments like they're following their leader or being cliquish.

Vakavaka and Panini are an exception. Vakavaka and Panini used to fight and mock each other on Sulekha because in their case their attitude towards religion trumped regionalism. They had very strong views on religion with Panini being an atheist and Vakavaka being a staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu. But I have never seen them slamming or mocking each other's attitude towards religion on this forum in the way they would on Sulekha.  In fact both Vakavaka and Panini have both been slamming North Indians on this forum. Tribal Loyalty ultimately triumphed even here.

douchemun, what strikes me about you after 10 yrs is that you always have an ulterior agenda on pretty much every topic you choose to argue about. it wouldn't be unusual except that you are also a poseur that posts voluminously trying to come across as an intellectual, so you can be fairly characterized as an intellectually dishonest geek without much in the way of merit. infact that's your net legacy: a intellectually dishonest lightweight/midget and that's my honest assessment of you. I think it's a majority opinion by a long shot.

i prefer your earlier view of me: "geez what a geek". That's what you said when i introduced you to Tuppy Glossop.

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Propa, my honest view of you: there is a part of you which i like, and a part of you which i dislike. if you would learn how to manage your anger and stop being abusive you would be a much better and more likable person. one more thing. there is a saying in hindi: 'dil ke acche, aur kaan ke kacche'. It roughly means a person who is good at heart, but who is liable to be manipulated by others (by what he hears from others). I think this saying, to some extent, applies to you. there was no reason for you at all to pick a fight with me after the fight that broke out between Panini and me. Tribal Loyalty and the fact that you can be manipulated by those you trust ensured that you went ahead and started fighting with me as well instead of staying neutral.  
incidentally, i don't really care about your sexual peccadillos--if any. that's your personal life and you are free to do whatever makes you happy.

your main problem is that you believe everybody is attacking you because someone else is instigating them. It is a defensive mechanism to shield you from the truth that they are attacking you because of your stupid views and thinking.

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Post by b_A Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:19 pm

Rashmun wrote:
B.S.N.V. P.G. College is situated at the heart of Lucknow city at a walkable distance of ½ km. from Charbagh Railway Station. It is a co-educational associated college of Lucknow University, which conducts U.G. Programmes in Arts, Science and Commerce and P.G. Programmes in Zoology, Hindi and Sociology. The College has been accredited 'B' grade by NAAC in January, 2013.

It has spacious class rooms, well equipped laboratories and state of art seminar room and excellent space for indoor games. It has approximately 3500 students, over 75 faculties, administrative and supportive staff and multi-disciplinary courses of study for boys and girls. Guided by an enlightened, supportive and dedicated Managing Committee the college has become a hallmark of education and exemplary discipline.

We are also running “BhartiyaBhasa Kendra” sanctioned by the Govt. of Uttar Pradesh with a view to promote communal and emotional harmony along with national integration among different states of the country and neighbouring countries. In this centre 13 regional language i.e. Tamil, Telgu, Kannad, Mayalam, Begali, Oriya, Marathi, Gujarati, Asamee, Sindhi, Punjabi, Kashmeeri and Nepali are taught. The session starts from July and the entire reading material is provided by the Govt. of U.P. The minimum qualification to take admission in this programme in 10+2.

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hahaha @Bhasa. Just how a hindian will say.

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Post by b_A Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:21 pm

Rashmun wrote:
swapna wrote:I am deeply hurt by the attribution of the appellation "northindian" to someone other than me. May I say it unequivocally? I coined that word.  And I did so in order to trivialize the common, innocuous term, "north indian."

My intent has been to give the northindians a.taste of their own medicine, but in double measure. I wanted to heap contempt on them for their cultural habits, without any explanation or appeal to their good sense or intelligence. Why? Because the time for such appeals has long been exhausted. After six decades, is utterly futile to seek -- as that gander whnngCtzn does -- their understanding of why freedoms are important to everyone.

By and large, I am skeptical of northindians, and of southern indians who kow-tow to them or overlook their serious flaws.

I appreciate all the posts that Rashmun has made here, especially about the Indian general election, and his determined efforts to keep them civil under intense pressure and provocation, while honestly expressing his opinions.

There's more to be said, especially about tribal loyalties, but I have  appointments to keep.

Please finish what you wanted to say on tribal loyalty. Thanks.
yeah. We are waiting with bated breath what the evil utterly discredited loser is going to say.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:22 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
What cliques & tribal loyalty? Are you saying that Vakavaka & Idefix, for all their ideological differences (on almost every topic), they gang up when it comes to anything pertinent to NI? Do you realize that you're demeaning the intelligence & integrity of telugu posters on this board with foolish comments like they're following their leader or being cliquish.

Vakavaka and Panini are an exception. Vakavaka and Panini used to fight and mock each other on Sulekha because in their case their attitude towards religion trumped regionalism. They had very strong views on religion with Panini being an atheist and Vakavaka being a staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu. But I have never seen them slamming or mocking each other's attitude towards religion on this forum in the way they would on Sulekha.  In fact both Vakavaka and Panini have both been slamming North Indians on this forum. Tribal Loyalty ultimately triumphed even here.

douchemun, what strikes me about you after 10 yrs is that you always have an ulterior agenda on pretty much every topic you choose to argue about. it wouldn't be unusual except that you are also a poseur that posts voluminously trying to come across as an intellectual, so you can be fairly characterized as an intellectually dishonest geek without much in the way of merit. infact that's your net legacy: a intellectually dishonest lightweight/midget and that's my honest assessment of you. I think it's a majority opinion by a long shot.

i prefer your earlier view of me: "geez what a geek". That's what you said when i introduced you to Tuppy Glossop.

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Propa, my honest view of you: there is a part of you which i like, and a part of you which i dislike. if you would learn how to manage your anger and stop being abusive you would be a much better and more likable person. one more thing. there is a saying in hindi: 'dil ke acche, aur kaan ke kacche'. It roughly means a person who is good at heart, but who is liable to be manipulated by others (by what he hears from others). I think this saying, to some extent, applies to you. there was no reason for you at all to pick a fight with me after the fight that broke out between Panini and me. Tribal Loyalty and the fact that you can be manipulated by those you trust ensured that you went ahead and started fighting with me as well instead of staying neutral.  
incidentally, i don't really care about your sexual peccadillos--if any. that's your personal life and you are free to do whatever makes you happy.

tribal loyalty? I rag on admin the most for his left wing politics, along with several other self professed gults (PI, CD, even VP) when their beliefs/pov differs from mine. I run copacetic with folks that share my pov IFF they dont exhibit the personal traits that I despise (bragging about things they didnt have to work for, dishonest, unfair etc). there are gults, tamils, mallus, NIs among others in and out of that list. life's too short to worry about forming alliances on a website to win an argument or two. I'd much rather read advanced poker strat or finance related blogs than waste time on such retardofuckery.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:10 pm

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:[
Really! didn't you bring up chat conversation about her sharing Kinnera's family picture or something to that effect?

That piece of information was not gleaned from chat.

hahaha. So if it is not gleaned from chat , it is all right to use that piece.
Ladies and Gentlemen ,
Nothing illustrates the hindiot's character better than this post.

if anyone wants to know the truth about kinns' pics, feel free to send me a note.[/quote]

We believe in open demakracy...and freedom of speech.

So let us hear about Kinny's pic.... also post the pic..so that I can discuss that with picture in hand..Razz

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,

You are a shameless guy. Even when that abominable human being flimflam spits in your face, you do not have the courage to admit your error. Any person with any sense of self respect would just find a way to hide themselves from this self humiliation.

TBT, what about Voltaire's statement: "I do not believe a word of what you say but I will defend with my life your right to say it". I am only following what Voltaire has recommended. Additionally, I appreciate Luke's efforts to fight against region based and language based cliques. Everyone should be able to express his views without concern of being collectively flamed by a clique of posters joined together at the hip because of "tribal loyalty".
What cliques & tribal loyalty? Are you saying that Vakavaka & Idefix, for all their ideological differences (on almost every topic), they gang up when it comes to anything pertinent to NI? Do you realize that you're demeaning the intelligence & integrity of telugu posters on this board with foolish comments like they're following their leader or being cliquish.

Vakavaka and Panini are an exception. Vakavaka and Panini used to fight and mock each other on Sulekha because in their case their attitude towards religion trumped regionalism. They had very strong views on religion with Panini being an atheist and Vakavaka being a staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu. But I have never seen them slamming or mocking each other's attitude towards religion on this forum in the way they would on Sulekha.  In fact both Vakavaka and Panini have both been slamming North Indians on this forum. Tribal Loyalty ultimately triumphed even here.
Many thanks for making me a "staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu".

When you say Panini, are you referring to a fanatic naastika sirOmani who is quietly happy that Telangana got 1956 Hyderabad + all the additions contributed by the settlers? Is his new CM the toddy drinking Pinocchio who barks, "Andhrawalen bhaago"? 

If that Panini is same as Panini I am referring to, he can't hate North Indians because in his new state, people routinely speak a colorful Hindian language and will join the BIMARU brigade under the capable leadership of KCR, Kavitakka and KD Rama Rao.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:45 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

What rubbish. I never used any stuff from chat against Tracy.
Really! didn't you bring up chat conversation about her sharing Kinnera's family picture or something to that effect?

That piece of information was not gleaned from chat.

hahaha. So if it is not gleaned from chat , it is all right to use that piece.
Ladies and Gentlemen ,
Nothing illustrates the hindiot's character better than this post.

if anyone wants to know the truth about kinns' pics, feel free to send me a note.

hope u don't go around denying what you did in private to anyone who sends you a note. the classy thing to do would be to offer an apology to people on this forum and promise not to repeat your mistake.

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Kinnera wrote:My question is, how did you come to know about that? You can pm me. I knew about it even before you said it on the forum. Tracy did let me know about it before you did.

https://such.forumotion.com/t22683-two-questions-to-rashmun#153099

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:56 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,

You are a shameless guy. Even when that abominable human being flimflam spits in your face, you do not have the courage to admit your error. Any person with any sense of self respect would just find a way to hide themselves from this self humiliation.

TBT, what about Voltaire's statement: "I do not believe a word of what you say but I will defend with my life your right to say it". I am only following what Voltaire has recommended. Additionally, I appreciate Luke's efforts to fight against region based and language based cliques. Everyone should be able to express his views without concern of being collectively flamed by a clique of posters joined together at the hip because of "tribal loyalty".
What cliques & tribal loyalty? Are you saying that Vakavaka & Idefix, for all their ideological differences (on almost every topic), they gang up when it comes to anything pertinent to NI? Do you realize that you're demeaning the intelligence & integrity of telugu posters on this board with foolish comments like they're following their leader or being cliquish.

Vakavaka and Panini are an exception. Vakavaka and Panini used to fight and mock each other on Sulekha because in their case their attitude towards religion trumped regionalism. They had very strong views on religion with Panini being an atheist and Vakavaka being a staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu. But I have never seen them slamming or mocking each other's attitude towards religion on this forum in the way they would on Sulekha.  In fact both Vakavaka and Panini have both been slamming North Indians on this forum. Tribal Loyalty ultimately triumphed even here.
Many thanks for making me a "staunch and ultra orthodox Hindu".

When you say Panini, are you referring to a fanatic naastika sirOmani who is quietly happy that Telangana got 1956 Hyderabad + all the additions contributed by the settlers? Is his new CM the toddy drinking Pinocchio who barks, "Andhrawalen bhaago"? 

If that Panini is same as Panini I am referring to, he can't hate North Indians because in his new state, people routinely speak a colorful Hindian language and will join the BIMARU brigade under the capable leadership of KCR, Kavitakka and KD Rama Rao.

he says hyderabadi is not a variant of hindi but a language on its own. Please share your view on this issue.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:04 am

Rashmun wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Really! didn't you bring up chat conversation about her sharing Kinnera's family picture or something to that effect?

That piece of information was not gleaned from chat.

hahaha. So if it is not gleaned from chat , it is all right to use that piece.
Ladies and Gentlemen ,
Nothing illustrates the hindiot's character better than this post.

if anyone wants to know the truth about kinns' pics, feel free to send me a note.

hope u don't go around denying what you did in private to anyone who sends you a note. the classy thing to do would be to offer an apology to people on this forum and promise not to repeat your mistake.

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Kinnera wrote:My question is, how did you come to know about that? You can pm me. I knew about it even before you said it on the forum. Tracy did let me know about it before you did.

https://such.forumotion.com/t22683-two-questions-to-rashmun#153099




hahaha... anyway, my lawyer who I just made up in my mind told me I owe no public apology to people of any internet forum. the person concerned here was kinns and she knows the truth. there is another suchini concerned about who I have debated a lot whether she should know the truth or not, but in the end I was like, forget it, it won't change anything. This is internet anyway. Not like people on the net have feelings, do they?


All of 2013, I was busy in my own life. I had had a falling out with someone and I assumed he/she will maintain a dignified silence, just like I was. But that was not what happened. Apparently he/she was busy spreading stuff about me that was a mix of truth, half-truth and lies. The tricky part about this is, you just have to say enough to convince someone about your authenticity and win their trust. After that you can manipulate them all you want, they will believe everything you say. Only 4-5 months ago, two different posters clued me into what was going on. And then you (Rashmun) posted some stuff too. In a moment of despair back in 2012, I had trusted someone to review my citizenship and divorce applications. Stupid move on my part. Had no idea he/she will save all my private information and share that with someone just to make me stop trying to expose him/her. I realized there was no point in fighting anymore. Took me about 3 months to recover. And I am positive about one thing. I am not here to fight with anyone, and I am not going to explain myself further, at least not in public. I will post when I have to and what I have to, but I am not going to engage in a fight.


The biggest lesson I have learned from this is, never ever think you are a damsel in distress. That's the worst service you can do to yourself. That's what I am gonna teach my girls too.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:10 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote: That's what I am gonna teach my girls too.

congratulations! didn't know there was a new arrival in the family. is she sleeping through the night yet?


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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:11 am

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Beatrix Kiddo wrote: That's what I am gonna teach my girls too.

congratulations! didn't know there was a new arrival in the family.


I treat my nieces as my girls too.

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Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote: That's what I am gonna teach my girls too.

congratulations! didn't know there was a new arrival in the family.


I treat my nieces as my girls too.

ah! alright then.
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:28 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

That piece of information was not gleaned from chat.

hahaha. So if it is not gleaned from chat , it is all right to use that piece.
Ladies and Gentlemen ,
Nothing illustrates the hindiot's character better than this post.

if anyone wants to know the truth about kinns' pics, feel free to send me a note.

hope u don't go around denying what you did in private to anyone who sends you a note. the classy thing to do would be to offer an apology to people on this forum and promise not to repeat your mistake.

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Kinnera wrote:My question is, how did you come to know about that? You can pm me. I knew about it even before you said it on the forum. Tracy did let me know about it before you did.

https://such.forumotion.com/t22683-two-questions-to-rashmun#153099




hahaha... anyway, my lawyer who I just made up in my mind told me I owe no public apology to people of any internet forum. the person concerned here was kinns and she knows the truth. there is another suchini concerned about who I have debated a lot whether she should know the truth or not, but in the end I was like, forget it, it won't change anything. This is internet anyway. Not like people on the net have feelings, do they?


All of 2013, I was busy in my own life. I had had a falling out with someone and I assumed he/she will maintain a dignified silence, just like I was. But that was not what happened. Apparently he/she was busy spreading stuff about me that was a mix of truth, half-truth and lies. The tricky part about this is, you just have to say enough to convince someone about your authenticity and win their trust. After that you can manipulate them all you want, they will believe everything you say. Only 4-5 months ago, two different posters clued me into what was going on. And then you (Rashmun) posted some stuff too. In a moment of despair back in 2012, I had trusted someone to review my citizenship and divorce applications. Stupid move on my part. Had no idea he/she will save all my private information and share that with someone just to make me stop trying to expose him/her. I realized there was no point in fighting anymore. Took me about 3 months to recover. And I am positive about one thing. I am not here to fight with anyone, and I am not going to explain myself further, at least not in public. I will post when I have to and what I have to, but I am not going to engage in a fight.


The biggest lesson I have learned from this is, never ever think you are a damsel in distress. That's the worst service you can do to yourself. That's what I am gonna teach my girls too.

i only asked you whether you had shared kinnera's family picture (which kinnera had shared with you in private) with other members of this forum. It was a question, not a statement.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:32 am

and what prompted you to ask such a specific question?

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:35 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:and what prompted you to ask such a specific question?


If I am talking about the same family pic in question, it was shared on suchat with 3-4 other chatters present and not "in private".

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:42 am

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Beatrix Kiddo wrote:and what prompted you to ask such a specific question?


If I am talking about the same family pic in question, it was shared on suchat with 3-4 other chatters present.

in replying to my question on the forum, you did not reply publicly but preferred to send me a private note in which u denied sharing Kinnera's family picture with anyone.* Kinnera herself is saying that the fact that you have shared her family picture with others was known to her because you told her about it (in other words, you admitted your mistake to her). I gave Kinnera's post and the link to it in an earlier post of mine.

*Ordinarily i do not share contents of a private note with anyone, but this is a public matter about privacy of posters.


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Rashmun wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:
Beatrix Kiddo wrote:and what prompted you to ask such a specific question?


If I am talking about the same family pic in question, it was shared on suchat with 3-4 other chatters present.

in replying to my question on the forum, you did not reply publicly but preferred to send me a private note in which u denied sharing Kinnera's family picture with anyone.* Kinnera herself is saying that the fact that you have shared her family picture with others was known to her because you told her about it. I gave Kinnera's post and the link to it in an earlier post of mine.

*Ordinarily i do not share contents of a private note with anyone, but this is a public matter about privacy of posters.


I give you permission to paste my entire note to you here.

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