Kinnera wrote:I heard that they are being adopted by even Rayalaseema ppl in the US. Others are doing them, so why not they if their money permits them to. My friend was talking abt an Vonila function of someone who hail from Nellore. They were doing it b'coz they didn't want their daughter to feel left out. Her friends had it, so she was going to have it too.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kinnera wrote:I heard that they are being adopted by even Rayalaseema ppl in the US. Others are doing them, so why not they if their money permits them to. My friend was talking abt an Vonila function of someone who hail from Nellore. They were doing it b'coz they didn't want their daughter to feel left out. Her friends had it, so she was going to have it too.

Ear piercing is another one but don't know they make it as big an event (in AP) as Uppili mentioned in TN.

confuzzled dude wrote:Kinnera brought up an interesting point that in Rayalaseema they don't celebrate many rituals that are common among Hindus. But again she hails from chittore? so probably they may practice some of these in other parts of Rayalaseema.

Vonilu (half saree)/Panchalu(dhoti)   - Mostly Coastal Andhra
Seemantham (Babyshower)               - Andhra/Telangana  
Uyyala  (cradle ceremony)             - From my experience this is popular in Telangana region (universal)
Namakarana(m)                         - Not sure, don't think it is that popular these days. 
Annaprasan(a)                         - I'm guessing across the board.
Odugu/Upanayanam                      - Only Brahmins, Vaishyas and (kshatriyas) a few others ( done as part of marriage cermony for all other castes)

What about other customs and other parts of the country?

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:Kinnera brought up an interesting point that in Rayalaseema they don't celebrate many rituals that are common among Hindus. But again she hails from chittore? so probably they may practice some of these in other parts of Rayalaseema.

Vonilu (half saree)/Panchalu(dhoti)   - Mostly Coastal Andhra
Seemantham (Babyshower)               - Andhra/Telangana  
Uyyala  (cradle ceremony)             - From my experience this is popular in Telangana region (universal)
Namakarana(m)                         - Not sure, don't think it is that popular these days. 
Annaprasan(a)                         - I'm guessing across the board.
Odugu/Upanayanam                      - Only Brahmins, Vaishyas and (kshatriyas) a few others ( done as part of marriage cermony for all other castes)

What about other customs and other parts of the country?

My observations in parenthesis.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:you forgot the ceremony where a fat lady places a foot stool and crushes a girl infant to death in the states of haryana, poonjaab, and delhi while she says, "you go and send your brother".  they don't have puberty celebration for girls in those states.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:you forgot the ceremony where a fat lady places a foot stool and crushes a girl infant to death in the states of haryana, poonjaab, and delhi while she says, "you go and send your brother".  they don't have puberty celebration for girls in those states.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:you forgot the ceremony where a fat lady places a foot stool and crushes a girl infant to death in the states of haryana, poonjaab, and delhi while she says, "you go and send your brother".  they don't have puberty celebration for girls in those states.

Kinnera wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kinnera wrote:I heard that they are being adopted by even Rayalaseema ppl in the US. Others are doing them, so why not they if their money permits them to. My friend was talking abt an Vonila function of someone who hail from Nellore. They were doing it b'coz they didn't want their daughter to feel left out. Her friends had it, so she was going to have it too.

Ear piercing is another one but don't know they make it as big an event (in AP) as Uppili mentioned in TN.

Never heard of it. Not in AP, afaik.

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:you forgot the ceremony where a fat lady places a foot stool and crushes a girl infant to death in the states of haryana, poonjaab, and delhi while she says, "you go and send your brother".  they don't have puberty celebration for girls in those states.

in what context was this done? what does "you go and send your brother" mean?

The study unearths several ‘technologies' that are used to eliminate females, especially girl children. Historically, the killing of female infants was practised in all these sites. Now vestiges of these practices are still found. In Morena, people spoke of many infant girls killed in a Thakur's house, such as by filling the infant's mouth with tobacco, and throwing her body into a drain. In Dholpur, infant girls were fed seeds from a poisonous plant, or dropped from a height. A particularly grisly narrative from Morena is of one Motti Bhua, a midwife who was commandeered to kill girls soon after their birth. She used to keep one leg of the stool ( peedhi) on the neck of the infant and sit on it while saying, ‘Go, bitto (baby), you go and send your brother'.

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:you forgot the ceremony where a fat lady places a foot stool and crushes a girl infant to death in the states of haryana, poonjaab, and delhi while she says, "you go and send your brother".  they don't have puberty celebration for girls in those states.

you didn't have the invaders raping the girls in your part of the world.

confuzzled dude wrote:Kinnera brought up an interesting point that in Rayalaseema they don't celebrate many rituals that are common among Hindus. But again she hails from chittore? so probably they may practice some of these in other parts of Rayalaseema.

Vonilu (half saree)/Panchalu(dhoti)   - Mostly Coastal Andhra
Seemantham (Babyshower)               - Andhra/Telangana  
Uyyala  (cradle ceremony)             - From my experience this is popular in Telangana region
Namakarana(m)                         - Not sure, don't think it is that popular these days.
Annaprasan(a)                         - I'm guessing across the board.
Odugu/Upanayanam                      - Only Brahmins, Vaishyas and a few others

What about other customs and other parts of the country?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:you forgot the ceremony where a fat lady places a foot stool and crushes a girl infant to death in the states of haryana, poonjaab, and delhi while she says, "you go and send your brother".  they don't have puberty celebration for girls in those states.

in what context was this done? what does "you go and send your brother" mean?

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-sundaymagazine/unwanted-daughters/article601168.ece

The study unearths several ‘technologies' that are used to eliminate females, especially girl children. Historically, the killing of female infants was practised in all these sites. Now vestiges of these practices are still found. In Morena, people spoke of many infant girls killed in a Thakur's house, such as by filling the infant's mouth with tobacco, and throwing her body into a drain. In Dholpur, infant girls were fed seeds from a poisonous plant, or dropped from a height. A particularly grisly narrative from Morena is of one Motti Bhua, a midwife who was commandeered to kill girls soon after their birth. She used to keep one leg of the stool ( peedhi) on the neck of the infant and sit on it while saying, ‘Go, bitto (baby), you go and send your brother'.

Hellsangel wrote:
Put to sleep.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:
Put to sleep.

All the rules that favored male child over female - property inheritance, lighting the funeral pyre, taking care of old parents, financial burden, etc... - are all obsolete, outlawed and/or ignored these days.  The rurAL people still are nto aware of these changes.

There is still one stigma though. Anyone breaking such established tradition will suffer in life and also his/her family. This superstition also needs to be eradicated.  

truthbetold wrote:Bk
does a si superstition or atrocity against Female reduce the folly of haryana  female child murder?

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Bk
does a si superstition or atrocity against Female reduce the folly of haryana  female child murder?

who said so? and why are you not calling it TN female child murder?

truthbetold wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Bk
does a si superstition or atrocity against Female reduce the folly of haryana  female child murder?

who said so? and why are you not calling it TN female child murder?

may be i am not well informed but my impression is that haryana is at the top of list for such murders. correct me if i am wrong.

Hellsangel wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

swapna wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:you forgot the ceremony where a fat lady places a foot stool and crushes a girl infant to death in the states of haryana, poonjaab, and delhi while she says, "you go and send your brother".  they don't have puberty celebration for girls in those states.

in what context was this done? what does "you go and send your brother" mean?

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-sundaymagazine/unwanted-daughters/article601168.ece

The study unearths several ‘technologies' that are used to eliminate females, especially girl children. Historically, the killing of female infants was practised in all these sites. Now vestiges of these practices are still found. In Morena, people spoke of many infant girls killed in a Thakur's house, such as by filling the infant's mouth with tobacco, and throwing her body into a drain. In Dholpur, infant girls were fed seeds from a poisonous plant, or dropped from a height. A particularly grisly narrative from Morena is of one Motti Bhua, a midwife who was commandeered to kill girls soon after their birth. She used to keep one leg of the stool ( peedhi) on the neck of the infant and sit on it while saying, ‘Go, bitto (baby), you go and send your brother'.

Put to sleep.