prefer a "Hindu Driver"

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:03 pm

...with the general perception that muslims contrinuted to increased rape and criminal activities - rightly or wrongly - what is wrong in prefering a Hindu driver? What if the customer wants to go to a temple on a festival day with his family members?

by southindian Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:17 pm

There's absolutely "NOTHING WRONG" with that choice.

My mother prefers a Hindu driver in India when hiring a long distance taxi. I'm fine with that as well.

Why make this ANY kind of issue.

by southindian Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:22 pm

Its a personal choice of the customer, much like southindians prefer to be friends with southindians. There's nothing wrong in that.

by Merlot Daruwala Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:56 am

southindian wrote:Its a personal choice of the customer, much like southindians prefer to be friends with southindians. There's nothing wrong in that.

Sure Avivek. Just remember this piece of wisdom when tomorrow when your manager tells you that you can only serve black or Asian clients because white clients prefer to be served only by white employees.

by southindian Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:28 am

MD Unkil, you are a jackass for not knowing that this happens today in most companies. Come out of the hole to see how clients' choices and preferences for teams to work are consifered, so clients remain happy and companies retain the account.

Your sexual preference for men over women is your personal choice, so why would that company in Mumbai have any problems in fulfiling your wishes?

by Merlot Daruwala Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:45 am

southindian wrote:MD Unkil, you are a jackass for not knowing that this happens today in most companies.

Sorry Avivek, I'm not very familiar with the workplace conditions at the greasy spoon you work at. But if this is the norm, you have a very strong case for a workplace discrimination suit.

You might want to join forces with fellow-cretin, Upps Aunty, who also works in a dead-end job, and try and make this a class action suit.

by Merlot Daruwala Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:46 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

...with the general perception that muslims contrinuted to increased rape and criminal activities - rightly or wrongly - what is wrong in prefering a Hindu driver? What if the customer wants to go to a temple on a festival day with his family members?

Very true Upps Aunty. Moreover, as the paying customer, I should be able to demand an Iyer driver when going to the temple so I don't get polluted by the shadow of a Gounder or some other lower caste.

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:37 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
southindian wrote:MD Unkil, you are a jackass for not knowing that this happens today in most companies.

Sorry Avivek, I'm not very familiar with the workplace conditions at the greasy spoon you work at. But if this is the norm, you have a very strong case for a workplace discrimination suit.

You might want to join forces with fellow-cretin, Upps Aunty, who also works in a dead-end job, and try and make this a class action suit.

hahaha!

by southindian Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:46 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
southindian wrote:MD Unkil, you are a jackass for not knowing that this happens today in most companies.

Sorry Avivek, I'm not very familiar with the workplace conditions at the greasy spoon you work at. But if this is the norm, you have a very strong case for a workplace discrimination suit.

You might want to join forces with fellow-cretin, Upps Aunty, who also works in a dead-end job, and try and make this a class action suit.

MD Unkil, It has dawned on all of us here that you have no idea about customer preferences, client choices and client retention.

It is Okay. If you don't know... then you don't know.

ALL companies do their best to make clients happy. If a client prefers to work with a certain someone who is best to work with them s/he will be there in all meetings to make the case. If some in clients team like Swiss chocolates or blue lighting with green ambience, companies will stretch that extra mile to make them happy. These are called, "making the client comfortable" and "steps-to-earn-business" in addition to products company offers. If a client wants a Hindu driver then so be it. You look negatively so see a discrimination, while its just a choice for many, much like your sexual preference for certain type of men. There's nothing wrong in that.

Some of these are sensed on client interaction. If a client feels unhappy in presence of a certain Mumbaikar then that person remains in shadows while client is in office. This happens in all companies and particularly more in India. I'm sure you are aware of such practices.

Live and Learn Dude. Live and Learn.

by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:57 am

savooodh -- if your employer treats you this way you may have a title VII lawsuit on your hands:

http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/fs-race.cfm

Title VII is violated where minority employees are segregated by physically isolating them from other employees or from customer contact. Title VII also prohibits assigning primarily minorities to predominantly minority establishments or geographic areas. It is also illegal to exclude minorities from certain positions or to group or categorize employees or jobs so that certain jobs are generally held by minorities. Title VII also does not permit racially motivated decisions driven by business concerns for example, concerns about the effect on employee relations, or the negative reaction of clients or customers. Nor may race or color ever be a bona fide occupational qualification under Title VII.

i am sorry about your troubles, but hopefully now that you're better informed your situation will get better. good luck.

by southindian Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:18 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:savooodh -- if your employer treats you this way you may have a title VII lawsuit on your hands:

http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/fs-race.cfm

Title VII is violated where minority employees are segregated by physically isolating them from other employees or from customer contact. Title VII also prohibits assigning primarily minorities to predominantly minority establishments or geographic areas. It is also illegal to exclude minorities from certain positions or to group or categorize employees or jobs so that certain jobs are generally held by minorities. Title VII also does not permit racially motivated decisions driven by business concerns for example, concerns about the effect on employee relations, or the negative reaction of clients or customers. Nor may race or color ever be a bona fide occupational qualification under Title VII.

i am sorry about your troubles, but hopefully now that you're better informed your situation will get better. good luck.

LOL These rules and titles... ufffff

Max, I'm sure you wish you'd live in a perfect world. No one is killed by anyone, No one asks religion, race. No visas to visit any country. No boundaries. No discrimination on race, religion, gender, class, caste, color. No government interference.

...and then you wake-up Max.

Your workplace knowledge too is more bookish than practical. Most work environments will yawn on this discussion and will go back to work. No one is breaking any rules here in meeting customer choices.

ALL companies in ALL parts of the world take steps to keep clients, customers happy without breaking rules OR drawing any lawsuits. You can discuss this all day here and pretend living in utopia waving titles 1 to 100.

by FluteHolder Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:22 am

southindian wrote:
ALL companies in ALL parts of the world take steps to keep clients, customers happy without breaking rules OR drawing any lawsuits. You can discuss this all day here and pretend living in utopia waving titles 1 to 100.

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All companies do either directly or more subtle. I did some short contract work for a large $ mgmt company and each time a wealthy client comes in, they carefully select who is going to handle the initial meeting. They had african american mgrs/secretaries specifically for such clients and whites for white clients and everyone act as if nothing wrong in it Smile

by southindian Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:28 am

Off course they do...

We live in a REAL world having societies culturally and socially different.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:55 am

Hmm......

I can clearly see the Chaddi-Nangi divide on this thread.

I knew that, after Modi's win, Nangis have been uncomfortably hiding their Haath.

Now that Pappu is returning to India, Nangis can scream, "Garibi Hatao", while openly displaying the Haath!

by seven Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:42 pm

it's like prefer a south indian breakfast on wknds or prefer the ultimate omelette without the meat or pick an american stylist over a chinese salon

personal choices.

these days we cant have any opinion/preference or say anything without being politically/religiously wrong :eyeroll

by Guest Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:19 am

this is how pretty much every tradition changes with time.

it's a personal choice based on a lifetime of traditional/religious conditioning, which has other bad effects that people want to change. people who want this to change will need to be extra aggressive in criticizing it, debates will ensue, maybe for 2 to 4 generations when it will really become a personal choice, less rigid than it's now. the extra aggressive ones will always be criticized, but changes are not possible without them. check out the history of everything, feminism, gay rights, colored people rights and so on. same pattern.

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