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Post by garam_kuta Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:06 pm

Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:41 pm

garam_kuta wrote: Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?

The original idea is not treat Juvenile crimes such as stealing and social misconduct on an adult scale. Society never imagined "juveniles" to indulge in killing and raping at this alarming freq.

Adult acts should be treated and punished on an adult level - irrespective of age.

Congress and Sonia are responsible for this shameful act for releasing the rapist - purely for family and political greed.


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Post by swapna Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:36 pm

garam_kuta wrote: Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?
how does the number of rapes committed by juveniles per juvenile per year compare with a similar statistic for adults, both in a recent year, with "juvenile" defined according to current law?

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Post by ashdoc Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:18 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote: Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?

The original idea is not treat Juvenile crimes such as stealing and social misconduct on an adult scale.  Society never imagined "juveniles" to indulge in killing and raping at this alarming freq.

Adult acts should be treated and punished on an adult level - irrespective of age.

Congress and Sonia are responsible for this shameful act for releasing the rapist - purely for family and political greed.

it should be encrypted in law that persons having the prophet's ( in this case it was mohammad afroz ) name should not be sent to jail .

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:53 am

Doc, where is your review of that sublime piece of Hindu-Muslim synthesis - Bajirao Mastani?
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:50 am

garam_kuta wrote: Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?
The type / degree of crime committed is important in the definition of a juvenile. A "man" taking part in a gang rape of a woman can't be considered in the same category of juvenile as might be a consideration for some young boy breaking the window glass of his neighbor's house by tossing a stone in that direction or stealing the fruit from another's tree.
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Post by swapna Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:38 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote: Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?
The type / degree of crime committed is important in the definition of a juvenile. A "man" taking part in a gang rape of a woman can't be considered in the same category of juvenile as might be a consideration for some young boy breaking the window glass of his neighbor's house by tossing a stone in that direction or stealing the fruit from another's tree.
please show me a definition of "juvenile," according to which a person is a juvenile only if he has not raped anyone.

this is a case in which a young, probably uneducated, immature person was led astray by older friends. one has no option but to treat him according to the law. the law takes into account the probability that it will be abused.

everyone should be demanding measures from the delhi government to prevent rape, make it easy to call for police help, and to respond swiftly to such calls.

one does not set the law aside because one does not like the outcome in one case. it would be illegal for the courts to set a law aside.

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Post by Hellsangel Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:47 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:Doc, where is your review of that sublime piece of Hindu-Muslim synthesis - Bajirao Mastani?
Horrible movie.
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:09 am

ashdoc wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote: Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?

The original idea is not treat Juvenile crimes such as stealing and social misconduct on an adult scale.  Society never imagined "juveniles" to indulge in killing and raping at this alarming freq.

Adult acts should be treated and punished on an adult level - irrespective of age.

Congress and Sonia are responsible for this shameful act for releasing the rapist - purely for family and political greed.

it should be encrypted in law that persons having the prophet's ( in this case it was mohammad afroz ) name should not be sent to jail .

I came across the Juvenile's name and when I wanted to post here I could not track it down.

PBUH was boinking a 9 yr old and he has no remorse - no muslim has expressed any remorse for any wrong doing - to my knowledge.

I am sure this Musalman will err again and bingo...get this bastard.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:25 am


Here are some details:

These are the names of 6 gang rape accused who should all be hanged for their brutal crimes:
Ram Singh - the bus driver
Mukesh Singh - Ram Singh's brother
Pawan Gupta - fruit seller
Vinay Sharma - gym instructor
Akshay Thakur
Mohammad Afroz - 17 years 6 months during murder.

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Mohammad Afroz was the main murderer and took intestines out with hand and tried to overrun Damini, as per the victim's friend and prime witness. He will be freed when he becomes 18 in June 2013.

Vinay Sharma is now appealing that he is also a minor.

Shame on our legal system that protects monsters on flimsy grounds. Agniveer demands death sentence for all.

After initial coverage, media and police is refusing to take name of the alleged juvenile. As per last available credible reports, his name is Mohammad Afroz. Refer link:
http://www.istream.com/…/Delhi-Gangrape-Fifth-accused-arres…

It is also a shame that people are seeing religion in such crimes. Criminals have no religion. Who cares what their name is or which community they belonged to?

Regardless of such non-issues, all should be punished with death sentence to bring justice to my sister Damini and make India a safe place for crores of other sisters.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:51 pm

swapna wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
garam_kuta wrote: Given the easy access to knowledge these days, isn't it time the contemporary definition of juveniles changed & not treated the same as the ones defined by the laws then?
The type / degree of crime committed is important in the definition of a juvenile. A "man" taking part in a gang rape of a woman can't be considered in the same category of juvenile as might be a consideration for some young boy breaking the window glass of his neighbor's house by tossing a stone in that direction or stealing the fruit from another's tree.
please show me a definition of "juvenile," according to which a person is a juvenile only if he has not raped anyone.

this is a case in which a young, probably uneducated, immature person was led astray by older friends. one has no option but to treat him according to the law. the law takes into account the probability that it will be abused.

everyone should be demanding measures from the delhi government to prevent rape, make it easy to call for police help, and to respond swiftly to such calls.

one does not set the law aside because one does not like the outcome in one case. it would be illegal for the courts to set a law aside.
The term "juvenile" in the legal system should not become an excuse for anyone to commit heinous crimes (e.g. rape and murder etc.) while hoping that the excuse of being underage (as a juvenile legally) will let the person committing crime go free (without facing life imprisonment of death sentence). The current legal system basically does not seem to uphold that, by letting the rapists etc. go free.
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Post by southindian Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:25 pm

MD too is "juvenile". 

He's senile, infantile juvenile.

PS: I have exhausted all my English for today and am leaving for the day. The only words left for today are "limpwristed", "breastbeating" and I can't use those with asking MD. He has a patent on both.
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