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Rohith Vemula was targeted for aspiring to a progressive India--an idea that is anathema for Hindutva forces

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:33 am

Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students  are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
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Post by Hellsangel Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:37 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students  are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:45 am

Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students  are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?
Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").
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Post by Thanjai Nalankilli Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:47 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students  are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?
Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").

I am opposed to caste based reservations myself.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:54 pm

Thanjai Nalankilli wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students  are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?
Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").

I am opposed to caste based reservations myself.
I thought you had anathema, and not just the opposition?
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Post by smArtha Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:13 pm

Vernacular Media has been reporting on this since the day of the incident. Conveniently the 'Progressive Left' Media had ignored it so far. Hindu also published this only in their Hyderabad edition not on the main pages.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece

Not only his father even his grandmother had on video recording confessed that they belong to Vaddera community. This settles that Rohit is not a Dalit but belongs to BC (or OBC) category. And the ABVP candidate who was beaten by Rohit and friends and the MP Dattatreya who wanted action all belong to BC. So there is not high-caste low-caste fight here. Just of political opportunism on the lines of 'award wapsi'.

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Post by Thanjai Nalankilli Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:12 pm

smArtha wrote:Vernacular Media has been reporting on this since the day of the incident. Conveniently the 'Progressive Left' Media had ignored it so far. Hindu also published this only in their Hyderabad edition not on the main pages.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/rohiths-father-seeks-judicial-probe-into-his-death/article8155152.ece

Not only his father even his grandmother had on video recording confessed that they belong to Vaddera community. This settles that Rohit is not a Dalit but belongs to BC (or OBC) category. And the ABVP candidate who was beaten by Rohit and friends and the MP Dattatreya who wanted action all belong to BC. So there is not high-caste low-caste fight here. Just of political opportunism on the lines of 'award wapsi'.

His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html

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Post by Thanjai Nalankilli Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:48 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Thanjai Nalankilli wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Has anyone looked into the possibility that some of these students  are jumping into the subjects and programs because of easy entry based on their caste status (as dalits, SC/ST and OBC), on their own and / or at the insistence of their parents / relatives, but later find that it is not their cup of tea, thus leaving them depressed and suicidal?
An easier way to put this would be - would you rather be treated by a doctor who became a doctor by merit and hard work or one who got through medical school through the quota system?
Good question to Rashmun ("T.N.").

I am opposed to caste based reservations myself.
I thought you had anathema, and not just the opposition?

both opposition and anathema.

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Post by smArtha Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:06 am




His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html

Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.

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Post by Thanjai Nalankilli Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:46 am

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His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html

Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.

eat this: https://twitter.com/umasudhir/status/689350305134186496

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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:19 pm

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His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html

Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.

the gay artist formerly known as douchemun lives in houston, seeking women there (as in SWIH) and is originally from oopi. he does talk to doggy via dreams and follows him on twitter

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Post by Thanjai Nalankilli Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:24 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
smArtha wrote:



His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html

Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.

the gay artist formerly known as douchemun lives in houston, seeking women there (as in SWIH) and is originally from oopi. he does talk to doggy via dreams and follows him on twitter

You are angry. You are upset.

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Post by Appalamma Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:03 pm

smArtha wrote:



His mother was very definitely a dalit. His grandmother was not a dalit because she was not his biological grandmother, she had adopted his mother. His adoptive grandmother would treat his mother like a servant:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/rohith-vemula-an-unfinished-portrait/index.html

Don't sit in Bihar or talk to Diggy Raja and get all 'factual' news. I have connections and sources in this very University. His Mom had claimed in an affidavit filed for her second son that they are born 'vaddera' caste. Even these filings are in public domain now. Award wapsi morphed this issue into a Dalit discrimination one.
What is your theory about what has really happened?

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Post by Hellsangel Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:47 pm

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Post by smArtha Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:46 pm

SUloCHana wrote:

What is your theory about what has really happened?

The clue is in the suicide note and further reinforced by lines that were struck off. He seems to be generally frustrated - life in general - his  birth, lofty dreams to influence or change 'something' in the system and hard realities. 


The lines that were struck off read: “ASA, SFI, anything and everything exist for their own sake. Seldom the interest of a person and this organisation match. To get power, to become famous or to be important in between boundaries and to think we are up to changing the system. Very often we overestimate the acts and find solace in traits. Of course I must give my credit to both groups for making, introducing me to wonderful literature and people.” - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/the-11-lines-rohith-vemula-struck-off-suicide-note/#sthash.0tI1DqL5.dpuf

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Post by smArtha Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:55 pm

Thanjai Nalankilli wrote:


eat this: https://twitter.com/umasudhir/status/689350305134186496

Sorry I cannot access twitter from this machine. Also, I have no active twitter account now. You need to put the message here.

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Post by smArtha Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:59 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:


the gay artist formerly known as douchemun lives in houston, seeking women there (as in SWIH) and is originally from oopi. he does talk to doggy via dreams and follows him on twitter

Yes Rashmun is from UP. Forgot that bit of info. What is SWIH?

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Post by Hellsangel Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:05 pm

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