MaxEntropy_Man wrote:But a confirmed  assassin enabled by the NRA. Oh I'm surprised gownder mama hasn't yet discovered that he is an IIT alum.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:IIT-Kharagpur.....
Seva and Carvaka are his seniors......
Hmm.....

goodcitizn wrote:How do you pronounce his name ... Maniac?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:The irony is that he isn't "failed". His poor advisor, the victim, apparently tried hard and succeeded in getting a weak student over the final hurdle. At least that's the news. We'll wait till the gory details come out.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:But a confirmed  assassin enabled by the NRA. Oh I'm surprised gownder mama hasn't yet discovered that he is an IIT alum.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Can't wait for Drumpf to have a cow about Indian grad students.

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.

He kills two people and worries about his cat!

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

Long time for getting a Ph.D.  -- why are these students made to spend so much time?

goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.

He kills two people and worries about his cat!

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:It's unlikely Sarkar had a visa problem. He seems to have been married to an American woman (the one he killed). My guess is that he is just a case of garden variety mental.

Hellsangel wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.

He kills two people and worries about his cat!

Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?

goodcitizn wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.

He kills two people and worries about his cat!

Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?

Ahem, are you a cat lover? ;-)

Hellsangel wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.

He kills two people and worries about his cat!

Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?

Ahem, are you a cat lover? ;-)

I like dogs too , GC. And if it had been a dog instead of a cat, my response would have been the same.

goodcitizn wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:

Hellsangel wrote:

goodcitizn wrote:If it was a case of piracy over intellectual property why would he kill his wife? There's a lot more to this that we don't know about.

He kills two people and worries about his cat!

Hey the dead don't need anyone to feed them. The living cat still does. Would you want your dog to starve, GC?

Ahem, are you a cat lover? ;-)

I like dogs too , GC. And if it had been a dog instead of a cat, my response would have been the same.

If he had the time to procure enough ammo and plan the killings, and if he really cared about the cat, he ought to have left it at a shelter. Any news on what happened to it?

Propagandhi711 wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

thanks for regurgitating news article we already knew+your worthless analysis based on nothing.

Hellsangel wrote:BTW, many people were shot in that liberal bastion called Chicago over the memorial day weekend, but let's talk about this.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-memorial-day-20160529-story

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

swapna wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

thanks for regurgitating news article we already knew+your worthless analysis based on nothing.

you're welcome. you're quite excited about all this, aren't you? are you disappointed that neither sex nor fecal matter played a role in the shooting? could you try to calm yourself down a bit?

Propagandhi711 wrote:

swapna wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

thanks for regurgitating news article we already knew+your worthless analysis based on nothing.

you're welcome. you're quite excited about all this, aren't you? are you disappointed that neither sex nor fecal matter played a role in the shooting? could you try to calm yourself down a bit?

none more excited than you, douchebag...this guy touches a nerve doesnt he, the way you're sympathetic to his plight and everything? 

I cant relate to assholes like this that blame external sources for their problems, which, incidentally is your modus operandi. infact I think if the butterfly wings beat in a slightly different frequency, this coulda been you. same brand of egomania, paranoia and unjustified anger at others.

but for now, report back on what the econonjournobrunners are thinking about this situation. you must be stuck on that board like a fly

garam_kuta wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess

It's not switching to biology, but applying mechanics and mechanical engineering to problems related to biology (e.g. in orthopedics, heart valves, blood vessels etc. as a part of biomechanics).

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

garam_kuta wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess

swapna wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

biomechanics is the application of mechanics and mechanical engineering to the workings of living bodies, usually the human body. there are important common areas between biomechanical engineering and aerospace engineering. 

examples: the development of prosthetics (stresses, deformation, failure, reversal of stresses, fatigue failures) and the development and design of landing gear (stresses, deformation, etc.); fluid dynamics is a large, common area.

biology is entirely different from biomechanics. biology is largely about living cells, biomechanics is not. the latter is a lot closer to mechanical and aerospace engineering, and.applied physics than it is to biology.

moreover, cross fertilization between various fields of engineering and bioengineering has been highly productive. example: the dialysis machine was developed largely by chemical engineers.

ah, you already knew all this? why then do you sound as if you didn't?

swapna wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

hahaha @ IIT aerospace engineer!
IIT aerospace engineer switching to biology.. Biology!!!! got very lucky, i guess

he did not switch to biology, but to biomechanics or biomechanical engineering. ignorance on display! -ignorance of the differences between biology, biomechanics, and engineering. please take a dose of stfumycin, drink plenty of water, and rest in bed for a day.

swapna wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:sarkar had traveled (driven?) all the way from st. paul, minnesota, to kill klug. he had a kill list. on it was his wife, klug, and another ucla professor. the wife was killed, apparently before sarkar left minnesota. when sarkar arrived in los angeles, he went to klug's office and shot him. fortunately, the other professor who was on the list was not in his office at that time.

there's a lot of talk about this at ejmr, but most of it seems to be speculation. there's talk about professors exploiting indian ph.d. students and post-docs, professors publishing papers for which all the work was done by the students,.but not including them as co-authors, and stealing their ideas and other intellectual property, including computer programs, while not helping them find jobs. 

the students, it is said, are easily exploited because of their visa statuses, and.their.need for recommendation letters from the professors.

sarkar may have received his ph.d. in 2013.

It looks like he strongly believed that his advisor "stole" his code that was part of his thesis. He had specific gripes against certain people and hence there is a clear motive unlike the other random campus incidents.

It is a gray area as schools are trying to gain patents (and hence make money) out of anything remotely good.  Also, the advisor and his group could be extending/altering this dude's code for other projects.  Finally, this guy did his PhD for 7 yrs the max limit in most schools. He is an aerospace engineer (Duh...) and swictched over to biomechanics and biology - which is a totally different field and a far more fundamental than "Aerospace" (Which is part Structures, part Controls and part mechanical).

biomechanics is the application of mechanics and mechanical engineering to the workings of living bodies, usually the human body. there are important common areas between biomechanical engineering and aerospace engineering. 

examples: the development of prosthetics (stresses, deformation, failure, reversal of stresses, fatigue failures) and the development and design of landing gear (stresses, deformation, etc.); fluid dynamics is a large, common area.

biology is entirely different from biomechanics. biology is largely about living cells, biomechanics is not. the latter is a lot closer to mechanical and aerospace engineering, and.applied physics than it is to biology.

moreover, cross fertilization between various fields of engineering and bioengineering has been highly productive. example: the dialysis machine was developed largely by chemical engineers.

ah, you already knew all this? why then do you sound as if you didn't?

Hellsangel wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:But a confirmed  assassin enabled by the NRA. Oh I'm surprised gownder mama hasn't yet discovered that he is an IIT alum.

I thought you were OK with legal purchase of handguns, Il Professore and only wanted background checks etc. Are you now revealing your true agenda? Apparently an intellectual property right dispute was tied to the shooting. More Walter White?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:prof klug and his family are not the only victims here. his graduate students, the future students who could have trained under him, the millions and millions of people who could have benefited from his research are also sarkar and the NRA's victims. this is a crime against humanity.