I'm already tired of the lectures about how we should try to understand the pain of the white rural voter. I live in the most conservative town in America, McBain MI. Let me tell you what I've learned living liberal in rural America. The farmers, who are attached to the Government by the hip, think the EPA is going to ride around in 4 wheelers in putting them out of business because of a puddle in their driveway. They actually believe that liberals will take their guns away. The day before the election, the front page of our local paper did not separate the candidates by issues but by their stance on abortion. Teenage girls here have kids before they get out of high school. Lest you think any Dem could get elected here, let me disabuse you of that notion. The only time there's a dem on the ballot here is for national elections. Everything from the SC to dog catcher is run by Republicans and they wouldn't vote for a Dem if his name was Jesus Christ. Oh, and let me add that I've been getting death threats and misogynist hate mail for nearly 20 years. Pastors here preach Obama is the anti-Christ and their religion is under siege. Dems are never going to crack the rural nut of fake news, religion and tribalism at least in my rural area. This is a different breed of people, closed minded, insular and uncurious about anything beyond the town limits.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Another lecture:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-end-of-identity-liberalism.html?

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I'm already tired of the lectures about how we should try to understand the pain of the white rural voter. I live in the most conservative town in America, McBain MI. Let me tell you what I've learned living liberal in rural America. The farmers, who are attached to the Government by the hip, think the EPA is going to ride around in 4 wheelers in putting them out of business because of a puddle in their driveway. They actually believe that liberals will take their guns away. The day before the election, the front page of our local paper did not separate the candidates by issues but by their stance on abortion. Teenage girls here have kids before they get out of high school. Lest you think any Dem could get elected here, let me disabuse you of that notion. The only time there's a dem on the ballot here is for national elections. Everything from the SC to dog catcher is run by Republicans and they wouldn't vote for a Dem if his name was Jesus Christ. Oh, and let me add that I've been getting death threats and misogynist hate mail for nearly 20 years. Pastors here preach Obama is the anti-Christ and their religion is under siege. Dems are never going to crack the rural nut of fake news, religion and tribalism at least in my rural area. This is a different breed of people, closed minded, insular and uncurious about anything beyond the town limits.

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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Another lecture:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-end-of-identity-liberalism.html?

The best comment:

I'm already tired of the lectures about how we should try to understand the pain of the white rural voter. I live in the most conservative town in America, McBain MI. Let me tell you what I've learned living liberal in rural America. The farmers, who are attached to the Government by the hip, think the EPA is going to ride around in 4 wheelers in putting them out of business because of a puddle in their driveway. They actually believe that liberals will take their guns away. The day before the election, the front page of our local paper did not separate the candidates by issues but by their stance on abortion. Teenage girls here have kids before they get out of high school. Lest you think any Dem could get elected here, let me disabuse you of that notion. The only time there's a dem on the ballot here is for national elections. Everything from the SC to dog catcher is run by Republicans and they wouldn't vote for a Dem if his name was Jesus Christ. Oh, and let me add that I've been getting death threats and misogynist hate mail for nearly 20 years. Pastors here preach Obama is the anti-Christ and their religion is under siege. Dems are never going to crack the rural nut of fake news, religion and tribalism at least in my rural area. This is a different breed of people, closed minded, insular and uncurious about anything beyond the town limits.

whoa @ ...Everything from the SC to dog catcher is run by Republicans and they wouldn't vote for a Dem if his name was Jesus Christ....

ashaNirasha wrote:I guess they all pine for a time of their youth or childhood when US was far more prosperous. Some of them don't believe in college education, but expect a life of relative comfort, with decent income, health insurance etc. Conspiracy theories are big with them.