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a conversation between verghese kurien & lal bahadur shastri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lzD4axhY_wk&feature=endscreen
Jeremiah Mburuburu- Posts : 1251
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Too scripted. Sounds more like a self-glorifying, after-the-event reconstruction of what Kurien wanted to say to the PM than what he actually said.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
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why this focus on verghese kurien and not other stalwarts who have died in the recent past? you think we are not able to aptly focus and need your crass hocus pocus? would that be because he is syrian christian?Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lzD4axhY_wk&feature=endscreen
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I suspect this was the TV series Doordarshan did on Shastriji back in the '90s. As far as I know, Kurien's Hindi wassn't as free of a southern Indian accent as portrayed here.Merlot Daruwala wrote:Too scripted. Sounds more like a self-glorifying, after-the-event reconstruction of what Kurien wanted to say to the PM than what he actually said.
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BTW, there aren't many better portrayals of the White Revolution in India than Shyam Benegal's Manthan. You can watch it all on YouTube in many parts. The entire movie was funded through the donations of the members of the Amul cooperatives -- with individual donations as small as one rupee.
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Here is the first part on YouTube.
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thanks! i tried getting the dvd yesterday but couldn't. nice to hear i can watch it on youtube (i never saw manthan). btw, the donation was rs 2 not rs 1. all the cooperative members were given a choice -- take rs 2 less and become a producer. it was first released in anand, gujarat, in 16 mm and was an instant hit (obviously -- the producers wanted to watch it). later kurien wanted to use the film to usher in the cooperative movement in other parts of the country by showing farmers, through the film, what the cooperative could do to their lives. that is when shyam benegal released it as a full fledged feature film.panini press wrote:You can watch it all on YouTube in many parts. The entire movie was funded through the donations of the members of the Amul cooperatives -- with individual donations as small as one rupee.
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panini press wrote:BTW, there aren't many better portrayals of the White Revolution in India than Shyam Benegal's Manthan. You can watch it all on YouTube in many parts. The entire movie was funded through the donations of the members of the Amul cooperatives -- with individual donations as small as one rupee.
>>>>It is an excellent flick. Saw it years ago, still fresh in my mind.
Kris- Posts : 5460
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your post would have been a work of considerable literary merit, had you only been able to work the word "locus" into it.Huzefa Kapasi wrote:why this focus on verghese kurien and not other stalwarts who have died in the recent past? you think we are not able to aptly focus and need your crass hocus pocus? would that be because he is syrian christian?Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lzD4axhY_wk&feature=endscreen
Jeremiah Mburuburu- Posts : 1251
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you can go read the works of ordinary mortals like salmon gundy for that. or arundhateriki roy.Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:your post would have been a work of considerable literary merit, had you only been able to work the word "locus" into it.Huzefa Kapasi wrote:why this focus on verghese kurien and not other stalwarts who have died in the recent past? you think we are not able to aptly focus and need your crass hocus pocus? would that be because he is syrian christian?Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lzD4axhY_wk&feature=endscreen
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i wrote this to a south asian lit. listserv once. hope you likes the locus pocus here.Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:your post would have been a work of considerable literary merit, had you only been able to work the word "locus" into it.Huzefa Kapasi wrote:why this focus on verghese kurien and not other stalwarts who have died in the recent past? you think we are not able to aptly focus and need your crass hocus pocus? would that be because he is syrian christian?Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lzD4axhY_wk&feature=endscreen
Where there is a Will, Ann hath-a-way.
What's the pun intended? I don't get it. Rasik, will you please come again? (When I was in college in America, I used to sometimes have difficulty understanding the americanized accents of these american girls. I used to interrupt them and say, 'excuse me, will you please come again...' And they'd wince at me and say, ' Are you kiddin? not here!', every time, every bloody single time they'd say this. Often I was tempted to shout at them, 'If not here then where, where, tell me!', but I don't know what held me back. And then when I asked someone what the girls meant by 'not here'? I was told that they, in fact, punned. But I never got it. I mean what fun is a pun rasik if meaning there is none. What good is all this lund fund when my mun only wants to run but no one will explain, no one will come again and my sorry head goes tun tana tun, O darn, take a gun, shoot me, pun and paan, hun and hahn, bun and bahn (chod), sun and saand (bull!), run and raand (whore!), gun and gaand (yeeech!) and all antu parantus, kintu vintus, iska matlab kiya hai, uska sandhi karo, iska translation nikalo anubadh karo aunbadham prastoot karo, hamein angrezi sikhao) Shorry pholks feeling phlippant again. It's the cough syrup this time, no doubt.
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Oh, that's right, Rs. 2. I remember reading that the total budget was a ridiculously small number like 1 lakh or 2 lakhs.Huzefa Kapasi wrote:thanks! i tried getting the dvd yesterday but couldn't. nice to hear i can watch it on youtube (i never saw manthan). btw, the donation was rs 2 not rs 1. all the cooperative members were given a choice -- take rs 2 less and become a producer.panini press wrote:You can watch it all on YouTube in many parts. The entire movie was funded through the donations of the members of the Amul cooperatives -- with individual donations as small as one rupee.
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kapasi, i have no idea what you mean by any of the above. it's probably the most futile attempt at humour that i've come across. despite a self-deprecating account of your conversations with american girls when you were at college in the u.s., there's neither humour nor pun here."Huzefa Kapasii wrote this to a south asian lit. listserv once. hope you likes the locus pocus here.
[quote]Where there is a Will, Ann hath-a-way.
What's the pun intended? I don't get it. Rasik, will you please come again? (When I was in college in America, I used to sometimes have difficulty understanding the americanized accents of these american girls. I used to interrupt them and say, 'excuse me, will you please come again...' And they'd wince at me and say, ' Are you kiddin? not here!', every time, every bloody single time they'd say this. Often I was tempted to shout at them, 'If not here then where, where, tell me!', but I don't know what held me back. And then when I asked someone what the girls meant by 'not here'? I was told that they, in fact, punned. But I never got it. I mean what fun is a pun rasik if meaning there is none. What good is all this lund fund when my mun only wants to run but no one will explain, no one will come again and my sorry head goes tun tana tun, O darn, take a gun, shoot me, pun and paan, hun and hahn, bun and bahn (chod), sun and saand (bull!), run and raand (whore!), gun and gaand (yeeech!) and all antu parantus, kintu vintus, iska matlab kiya hai, uska sandhi karo, iska translation nikalo anubadh karo aunbadham prastoot karo, hamein angrezi likhao) Shorry pholks feeling phlippant again. It's the cough syrup this time, no doubt.
there was no pun in those girls saying "not here" to your "will you please come again?" the person who told you that it was a pun was wrong; he must have been northindian. many indians, esp northindians, think that "pun" means "fun," and that saying "pun" for "fun" is humorous. moreover, rhyming words - see the words in bold text in your asinine chatter above - don't make a pun. a pun is a clever joke that takes advantage of different interpretations of the same word or different meanings of words that sound the same.
there have only been three northindians who ever understood puns; all three are dead now.
here's a pun that i saw on a sign in a pizza restaurant, and remains in my memory: "please buy our pizza; we knead the dough."
Jeremiah Mburuburu- Posts : 1251
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Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
blah blah blah
there have only been three northindians who ever understood puns; all three are dead now.
They must have listened to you drone on and on and died of boredom.
Hellsangel- Posts : 14721
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nats and HA.
JM, professor sir, i am humbled by your incisive critique. i shall submit another submission with proper pun pana puns sir! please to forgive my earlier errors which might have been by omission or commission (i am not sure).
JM, professor sir, i am humbled by your incisive critique. i shall submit another submission with proper pun pana puns sir! please to forgive my earlier errors which might have been by omission or commission (i am not sure).
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