"Narendra Modi reelection a huge black mark for Gujarat" says distinguished scholar

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:04 pm

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:08 pm

Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:20 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:22 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:27 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Rajiv was a Hindu. That is why Rahul Gandhi also says he is Hindu.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:00 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Rajiv was a Hindu. That is why Rahul Gandhi also says he is Hindu.

You claim you are a UP Brahmin. Then you should know how Rajiv was strictly a Muslim. if not, you are a disgrace to call yourself a UP Brahmin.

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:30 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Rajiv was a Hindu. That is why Rahul Gandhi also says he is Hindu.

You claim you are a UP Brahmin. Then you should know how Rajiv was strictly a Muslim. if not, you are a disgrace to call yourself a UP Brahmin.

Rajiv was a Hindu but some RSS idiots falsely claim he was not. Do not believe them.

by truthbetold Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:14 pm

Rashmun,
Do you logically think that a majority community will vote for third time to modi for religious reasons? The elections were as fair as possible in india. Opposition has all the power in the world. Govt., central law enforcement agencies, courts, national press and every ngo was actively canvassing against modi not for 5 weeks but for 10 whole years.

Could there be other reasons for his popularity? Almost every economic report indicates gujarat as the fastest developing state in the nation. If that is true, why is modi's election worse than bush's reelection in 2004 or laloo's reelection for a third time or a possible sweep by jagan mohan reddy in coming ap elections?

by artood2 Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:17 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Wasn't Feroze Gandhi a Parsi?

by Rishi Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:44 pm

artood2 wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Wasn't Feroze Gandhi a Parsi?

Mrs. Gandhi was born on November 19, 1917 to Jawaharlal and Kamala Nehru. She was named Indira Priyadarshini Nehru. She fell in love and decided to marry Feroze Khan, a family friend. Feroze Khan’s father, Nawab Khan, was a Muslim, and mother was a Persian Muslim. Jawaharlal Nehru did not approve of the inter-caste marriage for political reasons (see http://www.asiasource.org/ society/indiragandhi.cfm). If Indira Nehru were to marry a Muslim she would loose the possibility of becoming the heir to the future Nehru dynasty. At this juncture, according to one story, Mahatma Gandhi intervened and adopted Feroze Khan, gave him his last name (family name/caste name) and got the name of Feroz Khan changed to Feroz Gandhi by an affidavit in England. Thus, Feroze Khan became Feroze Gandhi. Though Mahatma belonged to Bania/Gandhi caste (a business tribe) the proposal was acceptable to Nehru for political reasons. Indira Nehru married Feroze (Khan) Gandhi in 1942 and became Indira Gandhi, which helped her politically as daughter of Nehru (the first Prime Minister of the Indian Union) and daughter–in-law of Gandhi (the father of the nation) securing her place in the future Nehru-Gandhi dynasty (based on swordoftruth.com). Another story, according to Mr. Arvind Lavakare in a personal communication to me, is that Feroz had a Parsi father whose surname was "GHANDI" not "GANDHI". That was made clear by an advertisement in a major English newspaper of Allahabad. It was Mahatma Gandhi who suggested to Nehru that Feroze's surname be spelt as "GANDHI" instead of the original "GHANDI". An RSS columnist wrote that "Ghandi's" mother was a Muslim, and since an offspring takes on the religion of its mother, Feroz ought to be considered a Muslim.

http://www.vepachedu.org/Nehrudynasty.html

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:51 pm

Rishi wrote:
artood2 wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Wasn't Feroze Gandhi a Parsi?

Mrs. Gandhi was born on November 19, 1917 to Jawaharlal and Kamala Nehru. She was named Indira Priyadarshini Nehru. She fell in love and decided to marry Feroze Khan, a family friend. Feroze Khan’s father, Nawab Khan, was a Muslim, and mother was a Persian Muslim. Jawaharlal Nehru did not approve of the inter-caste marriage for political reasons (see http://www.asiasource.org/ society/indiragandhi.cfm). If Indira Nehru were to marry a Muslim she would loose the possibility of becoming the heir to the future Nehru dynasty. At this juncture, according to one story, Mahatma Gandhi intervened and adopted Feroze Khan, gave him his last name (family name/caste name) and got the name of Feroz Khan changed to Feroz Gandhi by an affidavit in England. Thus, Feroze Khan became Feroze Gandhi. Though Mahatma belonged to Bania/Gandhi caste (a business tribe) the proposal was acceptable to Nehru for political reasons. Indira Nehru married Feroze (Khan) Gandhi in 1942 and became Indira Gandhi, which helped her politically as daughter of Nehru (the first Prime Minister of the Indian Union) and daughter–in-law of Gandhi (the father of the nation) securing her place in the future Nehru-Gandhi dynasty (based on swordoftruth.com). Another story, according to Mr. Arvind Lavakare in a personal communication to me, is that Feroz had a Parsi father whose surname was "GHANDI" not "GANDHI". That was made clear by an advertisement in a major English newspaper of Allahabad. It was Mahatma Gandhi who suggested to Nehru that Feroze's surname be spelt as "GANDHI" instead of the original "GHANDI". An RSS columnist wrote that "Ghandi's" mother was a Muslim, and since an offspring takes on the religion of its mother, Feroz ought to be considered a Muslim.

http://www.vepachedu.org/Nehrudynasty.html

These are all very high level history for Maulana "Vomit" Rashmunullah, whose (lack of) capabilities are well known here.

by artood2 Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:54 pm

Rishi wrote:
artood2 wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Wasn't Feroze Gandhi a Parsi?

Mrs. Gandhi was born on November 19, 1917 to Jawaharlal and Kamala Nehru. She was named Indira Priyadarshini Nehru. She fell in love and decided to marry Feroze Khan, a family friend. Feroze Khan’s father, Nawab Khan, was a Muslim, and mother was a Persian Muslim. Jawaharlal Nehru did not approve of the inter-caste marriage for political reasons (see http://www.asiasource.org/ society/indiragandhi.cfm). If Indira Nehru were to marry a Muslim she would loose the possibility of becoming the heir to the future Nehru dynasty. At this juncture, according to one story, Mahatma Gandhi intervened and adopted Feroze Khan, gave him his last name (family name/caste name) and got the name of Feroz Khan changed to Feroz Gandhi by an affidavit in England. Thus, Feroze Khan became Feroze Gandhi. Though Mahatma belonged to Bania/Gandhi caste (a business tribe) the proposal was acceptable to Nehru for political reasons. Indira Nehru married Feroze (Khan) Gandhi in 1942 and became Indira Gandhi, which helped her politically as daughter of Nehru (the first Prime Minister of the Indian Union) and daughter–in-law of Gandhi (the father of the nation) securing her place in the future Nehru-Gandhi dynasty (based on swordoftruth.com). Another story, according to Mr. Arvind Lavakare in a personal communication to me, is that Feroz had a Parsi father whose surname was "GHANDI" not "GANDHI". That was made clear by an advertisement in a major English newspaper of Allahabad. It was Mahatma Gandhi who suggested to Nehru that Feroze's surname be spelt as "GANDHI" instead of the original "GHANDI". An RSS columnist wrote that "Ghandi's" mother was a Muslim, and since an offspring takes on the religion of its mother, Feroz ought to be considered a Muslim.

http://www.vepachedu.org/Nehrudynasty.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/indira-gandhi.htm

Indira married Feroze, a family friend and lawyer, on March 26, 1942 and had two sons. Feroze Gandhi was the son of a Parsi liquor and provision merchant of Allahabad. Other accounts state that his father was an engineer with a company that required him to travel to foreign countries a great deal. The surname Gandhi is common among gujaratis, especially for a merchant caste vaishya. Though a long time favorite of Mahatma Gandhi, he was never adopted by the Mahatma, who did support Indira for her marriage with Feroze. Indira's marriage to Feroze Gandhi (not related to the Mahatma) was widely denigrated by orthodox Hindus because it was an intercommunal "love marriage," not arranged by her parents. Jawaharlal Nehru was said by some accounts to have disapproved of the inter-caste marriage for political reasons, but other accounts state he was a strong supporter of the union. Although Nehru was a liberal and committed to secularism, as a Brahmin had his reservations about Feroze Gandhi, the Parsi. Born in a rich family, Feroze Gandhi went to jail at the age of 18. One urban legend is that Feroze Khan's father, Nawab Khan, was a Muslim, and mother was a Persian Muslim, and that Feroze altered his surname to adhere more closely to the leader of nationalistic sentiment of the time. According to another version of this story, Mahatma Gandhi intervened and adopted Feroze Khan, giving him his last name (family name/caste name) and getting the name of Feroz Khan changed to Feroz Gandhi by an affidavit in England. Thus, Feroze Khan became Feroze Gandhi. These stories are urban legends.

by Rishi Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:54 pm

Bottomline: Feroz Ghandi was a Muslim because his father was a Muslim.

by artood2 Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:56 pm

Rishi wrote:Bottomline: Feroz Ghandi was a Muslim because his father was a Muslim.

Not sure if that is correct: see the post above. And I remember seeing Indira and Rajiv being cremated. Unless there is some grand conspiracy involved that does sound like hindu last rites.

by Kris Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:58 pm

artood2 wrote:
Rishi wrote:Bottomline: Feroz Ghandi was a Muslim because his father was a Muslim.

Not sure if that is correct: see the post above. And I remember seeing Indira and Rajiv being cremated. Unless there is some grand conspiracy involved that does sound like hindu last rites.

>>>> I don't know. How do you know they weren't buried later? Smile

by artood2 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:00 pm

Kris wrote:
artood2 wrote:
Rishi wrote:Bottomline: Feroz Ghandi was a Muslim because his father was a Muslim.

Not sure if that is correct: see the post above. And I remember seeing Indira and Rajiv being cremated. Unless there is some grand conspiracy involved that does sound like hindu last rites.

>>>> I don't know. How do you know they weren't buried later?

yup and then had the vultures feast on them as per the Parsi tradition Very Happy

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:45 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rishi wrote:
artood2 wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

Wasn't Feroze Gandhi a Parsi?

Mrs. Gandhi was born on November 19, 1917 to Jawaharlal and Kamala Nehru. She was named Indira Priyadarshini Nehru. She fell in love and decided to marry Feroze Khan, a family friend. Feroze Khan’s father, Nawab Khan, was a Muslim, and mother was a Persian Muslim. Jawaharlal Nehru did not approve of the inter-caste marriage for political reasons (see http://www.asiasource.org/ society/indiragandhi.cfm). If Indira Nehru were to marry a Muslim she would loose the possibility of becoming the heir to the future Nehru dynasty. At this juncture, according to one story, Mahatma Gandhi intervened and adopted Feroze Khan, gave him his last name (family name/caste name) and got the name of Feroz Khan changed to Feroz Gandhi by an affidavit in England. Thus, Feroze Khan became Feroze Gandhi. Though Mahatma belonged to Bania/Gandhi caste (a business tribe) the proposal was acceptable to Nehru for political reasons. Indira Nehru married Feroze (Khan) Gandhi in 1942 and became Indira Gandhi, which helped her politically as daughter of Nehru (the first Prime Minister of the Indian Union) and daughter–in-law of Gandhi (the father of the nation) securing her place in the future Nehru-Gandhi dynasty (based on swordoftruth.com). Another story, according to Mr. Arvind Lavakare in a personal communication to me, is that Feroz had a Parsi father whose surname was "GHANDI" not "GANDHI". That was made clear by an advertisement in a major English newspaper of Allahabad. It was Mahatma Gandhi who suggested to Nehru that Feroze's surname be spelt as "GANDHI" instead of the original "GHANDI". An RSS columnist wrote that "Ghandi's" mother was a Muslim, and since an offspring takes on the religion of its mother, Feroz ought to be considered a Muslim.

http://www.vepachedu.org/Nehrudynasty.html

These are all very high level history for Maulana "Vomit" Rashmunullah, whose (lack of) capabilities are well known here.

It is true that feroz gandhi was a parsee but Rajiv's mother was a Hindu and he considered himself to be a Hindu which is why he was cremated as per Hindu rituals. Moreover Rahul Gandhi has claimed that he should be considered a Brahmin:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-14/india/31341536_1_upper-castes-dalit-leaders-congress-leader

Instead of learning the truth it is sad to note Uppili the Poopili's preference for pooping 24*7.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:54 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

These are all very high level history for Maulana "Vomit" Rashmunullah, whose (lack of) capabilities are well known here.

It is true that feroz gandhi was a parsee but Rajiv's mother was a Hindu and he considered himself to be a Hindu which is why he was cremated as per Hindu rituals. Moreover Rahul Gandhi has claimed that he should be considered a Brahmin:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-14/india/31341536_1_upper-castes-dalit-leaders-congress-leader

Instead of learning the truth it is sad to note Uppili the Poopili's preference for pooping 24*7.

Did Indira enter Puri Temple?

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:06 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

These are all very high level history for Maulana "Vomit" Rashmunullah, whose (lack of) capabilities are well known here.

It is true that feroz gandhi was a parsee but Rajiv's mother was a Hindu and he considered himself to be a Hindu which is why he was cremated as per Hindu rituals. Moreover Rahul Gandhi has claimed that he should be considered a Brahmin:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-14/india/31341536_1_upper-castes-dalit-leaders-congress-leader

Instead of learning the truth it is sad to note Uppili the Poopili's preference for pooping 24*7.

Did Indira enter Puri Temple?

Even though she was born a hindu, considered herself a Hindu and was cremated as a Hindu the priests at Puri did not let her enter the temple because she married a parsee. This shows the mean spirited behavior of the Puri priests and nothing else.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:17 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Did Indira enter Puri Temple?

Even though she was born a hindu, considered herself a Hindu and was cremated as a Hindu the priests at Puri did not let her enter the temple because she married a parsee. This shows the mean spirited behavior of the Puri priests and nothing else.

Thank you. I rest my case.

by FluteHolder Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:20 pm

http://rivr.sulekha.com/rajiv-gandhi-was-a-born-muslim-nehru-and-indira-gandhi-were-muslims-and-were-babar-ki-oulad_222967_blog

It is learnt that Indira Gandhi on marrying Phiroze Khan changed her religion from Hinduism to Islam. They are learnt to have married in one London Mosque. Indira Gandhi is further learnt to have changed her name to 'MAINUNA BEGUM'. This happened in 1941 when inter religious marriage were illegal and to make them lawful one of the two spouses had to change one's religion. The females always undergo change of their family surnames to accept the surname or the family of their husbands.

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:22 pm

FluteHolder wrote:http://rivr.sulekha.com/rajiv-gandhi-was-a-born-muslim-nehru-and-indira-gandhi-were-muslims-and-were-babar-ki-oulad_222967_blog

Liars and slanderers should not be given any importance in my opinion.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:28 pm

Rashmun wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:http://rivr.sulekha.com/rajiv-gandhi-was-a-born-muslim-nehru-and-indira-gandhi-were-muslims-and-were-babar-ki-oulad_222967_blog

Liars and slanderers should not be given any importance in my opinion.

Well said... We do not/will not give any importance to you....

by FluteHolder Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:29 pm

Rashmun wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:http://rivr.sulekha.com/rajiv-gandhi-was-a-born-muslim-nehru-and-indira-gandhi-were-muslims-and-were-babar-ki-oulad_222967_blog

Liars and slanderers should not be given any importance in my opinion.

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At Mumbai
Date: 11th Oct. 2005

R. V. Bhasin

Advocate Supreme Court
--------
The above post was by a Supreme Court Advocate. If you think he can be a liar, so are/may be the authors/sources of the cut/paste articles you post. Just saying....

by Rishi Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:38 pm

Rashmun,

Nehru was culturally closer to being a Muslim than a Hindu.

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:41 pm

Rishi wrote:Rashmun,

Nehru was culturally closer to being a Muslim than a Hindu.

I disagree.

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:43 pm

FluteHolder wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:http://rivr.sulekha.com/rajiv-gandhi-was-a-born-muslim-nehru-and-indira-gandhi-were-muslims-and-were-babar-ki-oulad_222967_blog

Liars and slanderers should not be given any importance in my opinion.

------------
At Mumbai
Date: 11th Oct. 2005

R. V. Bhasin

Advocate Supreme Court
--------
The above post was by a Supreme Court Advocate. If you think he can be a liar, so are/may be the authors/sources of the cut/paste articles you post. Just saying....

Bhasin's credibility is in the mud. See for instance:

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/index.aspx?page=article&sectid=2&contentid=2011110420111104021716246ac8b61fe

by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:46 pm

Rishi wrote:Bottomline: Feroz Ghandi was a Muslim because his father was a Muslim.

The whole world knows that feroz gandhi was a Parsi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feroze_Gandhi

by Rishi Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:52 pm

Looks like he is a jerk in his personal life.

But what he said about Nehru's family history could be factual.

I do not how far it is true. It seems that the Feroze Khan character was going after Kamala Nehru before. She did not like him at all. And then he managed to hook Indira.

by rawemotions Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:55 am

Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

Let this so called distinguished scholar fix Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, where there is rampant, blatant legally sanctioned discrimination against all minorities.
Now Egypt is joining the ranks.

If she can do that, I will accept that she is really something.

I would like to see how successful she is in all those.

Otherwise , all this is hot air.

by rawemotions Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:58 am

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Really! For the past 10 years I do not recollect any actions that seems to support this statement. Kindly educate us.

by Guest Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:13 am

rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-12-24/news/35991670_1_gujarat-chief-minister-gujarat-riots-naroda-patiya

If Modi indirectly hates Muslims and MT Sonia indirectly hates hindus, the it is better for hindus of to elect Modi. After all, it is their own survivial.

Sorry... that is democracy.... and anyone who does not respect people's choice in a democratic setup, then that person is not distinguised.. despite all the titles.

Sonia loves Hindus. After all She married a Hindu.

Really! For the past 10 years I do not recollect any actions that seems to support this statement. Kindly educate us.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Mangalore/narayan-gurus-philosophy-is-of-great-relevance-now-sonia-gandhi/article4012368.ece

by rawemotions Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:06 am

Can you please stop these nonsensical ads for congress party? She hasn't given one extempore Interview and you talk of philosophy.

Read my question! I said actions!

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:42 am

[quote="Rashmun"][quote="Marathadi-Saamiyaar"][quote="Rishi"]

artood2 wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Strictly, Rajiv was a Muslim. Go read your history books.

It is true that feroz gandhi was a parsee but Rajiv's mother was a Hindu and he considered himself to be a Hindu which is why he was cremated as per Hindu rituals. Moreover Rahul Gandhi has claimed that he should be considered a Brahmin:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-14/india/31341536_1_upper-castes-dalit-leaders-congress-leader

Instead of learning the truth it is sad to note Uppili the Poopili's preference for pooping 24*7.

So, if Firoz is a Parsi, and Rajiv thinks he is a Hindu because his mother is a Hindu, I wonder if Firoz is turning in his grave feeling slighted. The Nehrus are known to utter rubbish. Jawaharlal, for example, told Galbraith that he was the last European to rule India! What an arshole!

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:48 am

[quote="Rashmun"]

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

These are all very high level history for Maulana "Vomit" Rashmunullah, whose (lack of) capabilities are well known here.

Did Indira enter Puri Temple?

Even though she was born a hindu, considered herself a Hindu and was cremated as a Hindu the priests at Puri did not let her enter the temple because she married a parsee. This shows the mean spirited behavior of the Puri priests and nothing else.

How about the Parsis? Did they allow her into their's? I bet they were disappointed with Parsi Firoz for marrying outside the clan. In fact, they don't even consider Parsi women as Parsi if they marry outsiders.

by Guest Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:50 am

truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,
Do you logically think that a majority community will vote for third time to modi for religious reasons? The elections were as fair as possible in india. Opposition has all the power in the world. Govt., central law enforcement agencies, courts, national press and every ngo was actively canvassing against modi not for 5 weeks but for 10 whole years.

Could there be other reasons for his popularity? Almost every economic report indicates gujarat as the fastest developing state in the nation. If that is true, why is modi's election worse than bush's reelection in 2004 or laloo's reelection for a third time or a possible sweep by jagan mohan reddy in coming ap elections?

Do not believe all the hype u hear about Gujarat. See for instance:

http://justicekatju.blogspot.com/2012/12/on-gujarat-development.html?m=1

by Guest Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:56 pm

These are excuses to conceal the truth that Modi’s decade in power has seen the logic of the 2002 violence in Gujarat against Muslims pursued by other means. The violence then was as ‘efficient’ as his administration is now, and its aim was much the same. This ideology of exclusion is ingrained in Modi. As a member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) since a young age, he would know that Veer Savarkar had written, ‘…our Mohammedan or Christian countrymen who had originally been forcibly converted to a non-Hindu religion and who consequently have inherited along with Hindus, a common Fatherland and a greater part of the wealth of a common culture—language, law, customs, folklore and history—are not and cannot be recognised as Hindus. For though Hindustan to them is Fatherland as to any other Hindu yet it is not to them a Holyland too.’ By the very notion of ‘holyland’, this can never be true of Muslims or Christians, and hence they must forever lie outside the RSS’s idea of cultural nationhood.

Modi, a demagogue, combines the chauvinism of this worldview with an authoritarian streak. Those who believe that he will moderate his stance and become more inclusive are living out a fantasy. If he were to let go of exclusion and hatred, he would not be Modi.

http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/those-who-do-not-want-to-bury-modi

by truthbetold Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:28 pm

Rashmun,
i am looking at official statistics, statements bt non politicians like ratan tata, and congress's own efforts to discredit gujarat's economic progress.

I spoke lot of gujaratis who almost always say thst gujarat is making tremendous economic strides.
If this is all fake, show us credible evidence.
Your post lacks even a single fact. Opinions do not prove arguments.

by Guest Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:32 pm

truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,
i am looking at official statistics, statements bt non politicians like ratan tata, and congress's own efforts to discredit gujarat's economic progress.

I spoke lot of gujaratis who almost always say thst gujarat is making tremendous economic strides.
If this is all fake, show us credible evidence.
Your post lacks even a single fact. Opinions do not prove arguments.

Do you agree that the malnutrition rate in Gujarat is lower than the national average?
When Modi was asked about it he said something along the lines of Gujjus do not eat a lot because they do not want to become fat.

by truthbetold Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:44 pm

Rashmun,
Do not repeat congress election time publicity. Do some research and bring some national and state to state comparison. Mal nutrition is a good starti ofng point. Compare that to gujarat of the past and compare it to neighbouring states.

Bring other data.

I am open to change my views. Provide me the data.

by Guest Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:54 pm

truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,
Do not repeat congress election time publicity. Do some research and bring some national and state to state comparison. Mal nutrition is a good starti ofng point. Compare that to gujarat of the past and compare it to neighbouring states.

Bring other data.

I am open to change my views. Provide me the data.

I will give more stats later, but first:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Modi-Gujarat-malnutrition-a-middle-class-phenomenon/Article1-921526.aspx

by Guest Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:04 pm

Rashmun wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rashmun,
Do not repeat congress election time publicity. Do some research and bring some national and state to state comparison. Mal nutrition is a good starti ofng point. Compare that to gujarat of the past and compare it to neighbouring states.

Bring other data.

I am open to change my views. Provide me the data.

I will give more stats later, but first:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Modi-Gujarat-malnutrition-a-middle-class-phenomenon/Article1-921526.aspx

http://www.accountabilityindia.in/accountabilityblog/2555-malnutrition-response-gujarat-chief-minister-based-data

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