open poll - southern indians on this board please vote

[MaxEntropy_Man]

+1 if you had heard of the term dakhini prior to rashmun mentioning it on sulekha
-1 if you had not heard of it prior to rashmun's mention of it on sulekha

[MaxEntropy_Man]

-1

[Hellsangel]

-1

[confuzzled dude]

-1

[Hellsangel]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakhini

Dakhini
Dakhini
Deccan
Native to Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Goa
Region Deccan Plateau
Native speakers 11.4 million (2007)[1]
Language family
Indo-European
Indo-Aryan
Central (Hindustani) or Southern
Dakhini
Writing system Urdu alphabet (Nastaʿlīq script), other
Official status
Official language in India, U.A.E

I wonder if people in Dubai have heard of it.

[Maria S]

I had not heard about it before, until I read a few posts in on going discussions here.

*And did not read the threads in Sulekha where it was mentioned.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

maria forgot to enter a vote, but based on what she has said:

-1

[Maria S]

Sure.

-1 (without reading in Sulekha part).

[nevada]

-1

[FluteHolder]

-1

[Marathadi-Saamiyaar]

+1 if you had heard of the term dakhini prior to rashmun mentioning it on sulekha
-1 if you had not heard of it prior to rashmun's mention of it on sulekha

I am sure

I have heard Dakshayini. It certainly is derived from Sanskrit, which also has common links to Dakhni. So, I should say I am not wrong to say that I have heard of Dakshayini and hence Dakhni before Rashmun Saar ji said the D word here on this August forum.

[b_A]

-1

[Marathadi-Saamiyaar]

Oh yeah....


-1

[bw]

i prefer being a south indian, not a southern indian.

regardless, never heard of dakhini before sulekha.

-1

[Guest]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/its-all-in-the-shayari/252933-60-133.html

[MaxEntropy_Man]

rashmun you are nine for zero and counting so far wrt to dakhini.

[Merlot Daruwala]

-1

Ok. That settles the matter. Next?

[southindian]

Who are southern indians? There are southindians as there are northindians.

-1

[goodcitizn]

-2

Never heard of Dachini and Cluckni before.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

tut tut all you souTHINdians who don't know your own legacy of fowl languages, shame on you all.

[FluteHolder]

tut tut all you souTHINdians who don't know your own legacy of fowl languages, shame on you all.

Too bad. I am starting one 'Dakhini Bharath Dakhini Prachar Sabha' and funds to be given from Central Delhi govt.

[Idéfix]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

[goodcitizn]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

Car, you are now beginning to annoy me by "nitpicking", reminding me of he-who-must-not-be-named.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

ok i am counting PP as +1. that's 9-1. in terms of dakhini being well recognized in souTHINdia, that's an EPIC FAIL.

[Vakavaka Pakapaka]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

CONwallahs are looking for someone to contest in the 2014 election from Kukatpally (against Jayaprakashnarain). Looks like you are developing all the talent needed to carry suite cases from Kosta to Delhi for the High Command and to run the NREGA program in Telangana. Garibi Hatao!

[bw]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

what's your vote? yea or nay? follow the spirit of the question and not the letter please.

[Idéfix]

ok i am counting PP as +1. that's 9-1. in terms of dakhini being well recognized in souTHINdia, that's an EPIC FAIL.

People of Hyderabad are not typical southern Indians when it comes to language. So my prior knowledge does not indicate that the term dakhni is well recognized in southern India. The term may be recognized in pockets in places like Hyderabad, and even there as a geographical adjective not language name.

[Idéfix]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

what's your vote? yea or nay? follow the spirit of the question and not the letter please.

-1 for spirit, +1 for letter.

[Idéfix]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

CONwallahs are looking for someone to contest in the 2014 election from Kukatpally (against Jayaprakashnarain). Looks like you are developing all the talent needed to carry suite cases from Kosta to Delhi for the High Command and to run the NREGA program in Telangana. Garibi Hatao!

Guruvu-gaaru, what did I do now to upset you?

[bw]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

what's your vote? yea or nay? follow the spirit of the question and not the letter please.

-1 for spirit, +1 for letter.

that makes your vote 0 - same as your bonus.

[Guest]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

+1

i always thought urdu was spoken among hyderabadi muslims. it is through sulekha i found that the term dakhini (which is also used to denote a geographical area) is used for the language.

[bw]

ok i am counting PP as +1. that's 9-1. in terms of dakhini being well recognized in souTHINdia, that's an EPIC FAIL.

i don't think south indians are all that thin.

[Vakavaka Pakapaka]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

CONwallahs are looking for someone to contest in the 2014 election from Kukatpally (against Jayaprakashnarain). Looks like you are developing all the talent needed to carry suite cases from Kosta to Delhi for the High Command and to run the NREGA program in Telangana. Garibi Hatao!

Guruvu-gaaru, what did I do now to upset you?

Upset? No, no, admiration! Silky smooth wording to say ummmmmmm...... not really.

[Idéfix]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

what's your vote? yea or nay? follow the spirit of the question and not the letter please.

-1 for spirit, +1 for letter.

that makes your vote 0 - same as your bonus.

[Merlot Daruwala]

The way the question is worded, my answer has to be +1. That is because I heard the term dakhni before. But I did not hear it as the name of a language. So if you intended the question as, "did you hear of the language Dakhni before...," my answer would be no.

The term dakhni in my knowledge prior to these discussions meant an adjective that applies to the Deccan plateau. Dakhni Urdu is a term that is used to describe the Urdu spoken in the Deccan. Aurangzeb the great secular emperor is supposed to have said: dakhni bAmman, khatriyA jAn. This means, "Deccani brahmin is a threat to life." He wasn't referring to the language those Brahmins spoke, but to the area they were from.

what's your vote? yea or nay? follow the spirit of the question and not the letter please.

-1 for spirit, +1 for letter.

that makes your vote 0 - same as your bonus.

Right. And shows that old habit of ingratiating with northindians remains unchanged.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

dakhini i must say has turned out to be a big fat nothing-ni.

[artood2]

I bet half the folks have not heard about dingal, maithili, magahi, bundeli, kangri etc

[MaxEntropy_Man]

I bet half the folks have not heard about dingal, maithili, magahi, bundeli, kangri etc

and the status of these "languages" is also the status of dakhini.

[artood2]

I bet half the folks have not heard about dingal, maithili, magahi, bundeli, kangri etc

and the status of these "languages" is also the status of dakhini.

What does that have to do with anyone hearing about dakhini?

[MaxEntropy_Man]

I bet half the folks have not heard about dingal, maithili, magahi, bundeli, kangri etc

and the status of these "languages" is also the status of dakhini.

What does that have to do with anyone hearing about dakhini?

rashmun has always presented dakhini as one of the major languages spoken in southern india. i wanted to get a sense of how many southern indians have heard of this major southern indian language. turns out not many.

[artood2]

I bet half the folks have not heard about dingal, maithili, magahi, bundeli, kangri etc

and the status of these "languages" is also the status of dakhini.

What does that have to do with anyone hearing about dakhini?

rashmun has always presented dakhini as one of the major languages spoken in southern india. i wanted to get a sense of how many southern indians have heard of this major southern indian language. turns out not many.

People who learn NCERT hindi would not know of all dialects of hindi even if they lived all their lives in hindi heartland. It is hard to expect anybody to consider it anything other than a variant of urdu.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

I bet half the folks have not heard about dingal, maithili, magahi, bundeli, kangri etc

and the status of these "languages" is also the status of dakhini.

What does that have to do with anyone hearing about dakhini?

rashmun has always presented dakhini as one of the major languages spoken in southern india. i wanted to get a sense of how many southern indians have heard of this major southern indian language. turns out not many.

actually if memory serves, rashmun has gone a lot further with that train of thought. i think he even claimed that dakhini is the forerunner of hindi. others who followed those discussions on sulekha can chip in.

[artood2]

I bet half the folks have not heard about dingal, maithili, magahi, bundeli, kangri etc

and the status of these "languages" is also the status of dakhini.

What does that have to do with anyone hearing about dakhini?

rashmun has always presented dakhini as one of the major languages spoken in southern india. i wanted to get a sense of how many southern indians have heard of this major southern indian language. turns out not many.

actually if memory serves, rashmun has gone a lot further with that train of thought. i think he even claimed that dakhini is the forerunner of hindi. others who followed those discussions on sulekha can chip in.

For most folks it is still Urdu or Hyderabadi. There is no way for a non-speaker to distinguish the dialects and know their names. There is only going to be one result of this exercise.

[confuzzled dude]

i always thought urdu was spoken among hyderabadi muslims. it is through sulekha i found that the term dakhini (which is also used to denote a geographical area) is used for the language.

That is still valid, AFAIK. None of the present day Hyderabadi Muslims will tell you that they speak Dakhini and the educated speak high flatulent urdu (read Arabicized). The schools, including Osmania University, in old Nizam state taught in Urdu medium not in Dakhini; The term Dakhini language probably is archaic and only intellectually superior would like to use it from time to time, to show off.

[Guest]

One thing is pretty commendable about SIs that's not so prominent in NIs. They have a lot more solidarity with each other than NIs do, when it comes to being against each other. NIs either don't care, or were too trained to believe of India as one, or are pretty ignorant, or maybe NI is way more diverse than SI is so they just cannot unite with anyone except their own little groups.

[confuzzled dude]

One thing is pretty commendable about SIs that's not so prominent in NIs. They have a lot more solidarity with each other than NIs do, when it comes to being against each other. NIs either don't care, or were too trained to believe of India as one, or are pretty ignorant, or maybe NI is way more diverse than SI is so they just cannot unite with anyone except their own little groups.

Hahaha! don't fall for what you see on SuCH (dang! everyone is turning into a Rashmun), reality is very different. For example, Telangana telugus think they are different than the rest of the Telugus. Also, read a bit on how 3 of the 4 states have been fighting over river waters. I thought HINDI united NIs

[Idéfix]

i always thought urdu was spoken among hyderabadi muslims. it is through sulekha i found that the term dakhini (which is also used to denote a geographical area) is used for the language.

That is still valid, AFAIK. None of the present day Hyderabadi Muslims will tell you that they speak Dakhini and the educated speak high flatulent urdu (read Arabicized). The schools, including Osmania University, in old Nizam state taught in Urdu medium not in Dakhini; The term Dakhini language probably is archaic and only intellectually superior would like to use it from time to time, to show off.

Correct; even Hyderabadi Muslims do not call their language Dakhni. They call it Hyderabadi, Hyderabadi Urdu, or just Urdu. The context in which I heard the term Dakhni was when one of my high school teachers said Urdu historically had three major variants: Lakhnavi Urdu, Dehlavi Urdu, and Dakhni Urdu. He used to add that it now has a fourth major variant, Pakistani Urdu. Now, we don't think of Lakhnavi, Dehlavi, or Pakistani as names of languages any more than we think of Dakhni as the name of a language. At least in Lucknow and Delhi, most people understand Urdu; in the Deccan, only a small minority do. So calling the local variant of Urdu "the Dakhni language" is even less appropriate that calling the Lakhnavi variant of Urdu "the Lakhnavi language."

[Guest]

One thing is pretty commendable about SIs that's not so prominent in NIs. They have a lot more solidarity with each other than NIs do, when it comes to being against each other. NIs either don't care, or were too trained to believe of India as one, or are pretty ignorant, or maybe NI is way more diverse than SI is so they just cannot unite with anyone except their own little groups.

Hahaha! don't fall for what you see on SuCH (dang! everyone is turning into a Rashmun), reality is very different. For example, Telangana telugus think they are different than the rest of the Telugus. Also, read a bit on how 3 of the 4 states have been fighting over river waters. I thought HINDI united NIs

HINDI unites SIs a lot more than it does NIs, it seems.

[Idéfix]

One thing is pretty commendable about SIs that's not so prominent in NIs. They have a lot more solidarity with each other than NIs do, when it comes to being against each other. NIs either don't care, or were too trained to believe of India as one, or are pretty ignorant, or maybe NI is way more diverse than SI is so they just cannot unite with anyone except their own little groups.

Hahaha! don't fall for what you see on SuCH (dang! everyone is turning into a Rashmun), reality is very different. For example, Telangana telugus think they are different than the rest of the Telugus. Also, read a bit on how 3 of the 4 states have been fighting over river waters. I thought HINDI united NIs

HINDI unites SIs a lot more than it does NIs, it seems.

True, opposition to the imposition of Hindi unites SIs from across the political spectrum. If you consider Bengalis as NIs, there is certainly opposition there to the imposition of Hindi as well. Let us not forget that one of the reasons Pakistan broke up and Bangladesh became independent was because the Bengalis opposed the imposition of Urdu on them.

[Guest]

Yep. Bengalis, gujjus, marathis, and punjus, they just learned Hindi and moved on. Maybe even many telugus. But none will stand up to fight for Hindi, if not against it. Bimaru is on its own here.

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