Should the girl forgive Tejpal?

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote:in india, cops carry a nauranga. it is a rod with balls on it: each of a different colour and each a size bigger than the one preceding it (think of towers of hanoi). the cops sometimes use it by shoving it, a step a time, up the accused's rectum, to extract a confession. recuse tejpal should be given the nauranga treatment by the cops and then he will sing like a canary (he will forget words like recuse, atonement, lapse of judgement and lacerate). the cops haven't arrested or interrogated him yet; so obviously his political-connections-machinery is well oiled. i hope the media keeps turning the heat on the cops, forcing them to arrest him.

Rashmun wrote:The punishment for custodial rape is minimum 10 years and maximum life term. Seems a little harsh for two brief encounters in an elevator.

Yesterday Tejpal's daughter--a very close childhood friend of the victim--is believed to have called her friend begging her to forgive her father.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The punishment for custodial rape is minimum 10 years and maximum life term. Seems a little harsh for two brief encounters in an elevator.

Yesterday Tejpal's daughter--a very close childhood friend of the victim--is believed to have called her friend begging her to forgive her father.

After she gets suitable financial compensation for emotional distress and attack on her dignity ... a figure of Rs. 10 lakh seems reasonable.

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The punishment for custodial rape is minimum 10 years and maximum life term. Seems a little harsh for two brief encounters in an elevator.

Yesterday Tejpal's daughter--a very close childhood friend of the victim--is believed to have called her friend begging her to forgive her father.

After she gets suitable financial compensation for emotional distress and attack on her dignity ... a figure of Rs. 10 lakh seems reasonable.

rs 10 lacs and paisa nil? (1) how did you arrive at that figure? and (2) what makes you think that the girl is seeking a financial settlement? (3) do you think the matter is any more in her hands?

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote:rs 10 lacs and paisa nil? (1) how did you arrive at that figure? and (2) what makes you think that the girl is seeking a financial settlement? (3) do you think the matter is any more in her hands?

(1)  He probably can easily afford it.
(2) She probably is smart and should use common sense (to maximize her benefit).
(3)  She can easily take the matters in her hand (use a lawyer's help, if necessary)

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The punishment for custodial rape is minimum 10 years and maximum life term. Seems a little harsh for two brief encounters in an elevator.

Yesterday Tejpal's daughter--a very close childhood friend of the victim--is believed to have called her friend begging her to forgive her father.

After she gets suitable financial compensation for emotional distress and attack on her dignity ... a figure of Rs. 10 lakh seems reasonable.

Rashmun wrote:The punishment for custodial rape is minimum 10 years and maximum life term. Seems a little harsh for two brief encounters in an elevator.

Yesterday Tejpal's daughter--a very close childhood friend of the victim--is believed to have called her friend begging her to forgive her father.

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote: (1) (He probably can easily afford it.) -- this shows your lack of knowledge about the ground realities in india. rs 10 lacs is piddle shit. and considering that you have quoted the figure taking into consideration what recuse pal can afford, your ignorance is glaring. you need to atone right now. recuse yourself from such for 6 months. rs 10 lacs is not even a respectable dowry figure for a village marriage.

(2) (She probably is smart and should use common sense (to maximize her benefit).) -- smart? maximize her benefit? you are making light of her plight? if she is smart she should start trolling the internet straight away educating us about the pitfalls of caste based reservations and hindu srutis.

(3) (She can easily take the matters in her hand (use a lawyer's help, if necessary)) -- i deleted this question in my post on editing because it made me think. technically the matter is still in her hands. but also technically, no, it is no longer in her hands. it is in the media's hands. today the cbi court sentenced the talwars for the murder of their daughter and help despite the cbi confessing that it had no evidence against them. so, no, it is election year and the matter is entirely in media hands. the girl's chances of a financial settlement (if any) have already been pre-empted by, guess who, the girl herself. the girl has been honest from day one -- no double speak from her end. as has been recuse pal's daughter.

nenu wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:The punishment for custodial rape is minimum 10 years and maximum life term. Seems a little harsh for two brief encounters in an elevator.

Yesterday Tejpal's daughter--a very close childhood friend of the victim--is believed to have called her friend begging her to forgive her father.

After she gets suitable financial compensation for emotional distress and attack on her dignity ... a figure of Rs. 10 lakh seems reasonable.

It's shocking that you said this, Seva.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
If she asks for more than 10 lakh Rs., the public opinion will go against her --- bad publicity to her.

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
If she asks for more than 10 lakh Rs., the public opinion will go against her --- bad publicity to her.

god knows what god was thinking of when he created you.

- you want the girl to act smart and maximize her benefits. why should she care about bad publicity then? what does she, the poor (literally), victim has to lose anyways and that too with bad publicity?  she will get bad publicity if she refuses to testify in the case without taking anything (and there is a possibility that she might do this because recuse's daughter is her friend). will 10 lacs somehow salvage the bad publicity situation that 9 or 11 lacs cannot? and what is this rs 10 lacs magic figure? how did you arrive at this figure that seems to work as a lakshman rekha of sorts.

- and what is this nonsense about imposing financial punishment upon rich men to force them to reform (in such cases). do you think "rich men" are fazed by financial punishments like an astronomical rs 10 lacs? is this a scheme to deter rich men or enrich the coffers of rickshawalas and their daughters?

- rs 10 lacs -- gets a victim out of a scene and richer; deters unscrupulous rich from committing the same crime; avoids bad publicity. this sounds like dabur chyawanprash gold.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
If she asks for more than 10 lakh Rs., the public opinion will go against her --- bad publicity to her.

god knows what god was thinking of when he created you.

- you want the girl to act smart and maximize her benefits. why should she care about bad publicity then? what does she, the poor (literally), victim has to lose anyways and that too with bad publicity?  she will get bad publicity if she refuses to testify in the case without taking anything (and there is a possibility that she might do this because recuse's daughter is her friend). will 10 lacs somehow salvage the bad publicity situation that 9 or 11 lacs cannot? and what is this rs 10 lacs magic figure? how did you arrive at this figure that seems to work as a lakshman rekha of sorts.

- and what is this nonsense about imposing financial punishment upon rich men to force them to reform (in such cases). do you think "rich men" are fazed by financial punishments like an astronomical rs 10 lacs? is this a scheme to deter rich men or enrich the coffers of rickshawalas and their daughters?

- rs 10 lacs -- gets a victim out of a scene and richer; deters unscrupulous rich from committing the same crime; avoids bad publicity. this sounds like dabur chyawanprash gold.

It will be a lesson to men in India, whether rich or poor, to not harass girls / women in work-place etc.

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Brigadier HK (Retd) wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
If she asks for more than 10 lakh Rs., the public opinion will go against her --- bad publicity to her.

god knows what god was thinking of when he created you.

- you want the girl to act smart and maximize her benefits. why should she care about bad publicity then? what does she, the poor (literally), victim has to lose anyways and that too with bad publicity?  she will get bad publicity if she refuses to testify in the case without taking anything (and there is a possibility that she might do this because recuse's daughter is her friend). will 10 lacs somehow salvage the bad publicity situation that 9 or 11 lacs cannot? and what is this rs 10 lacs magic figure? how did you arrive at this figure that seems to work as a lakshman rekha of sorts.

- and what is this nonsense about imposing financial punishment upon rich men to force them to reform (in such cases). do you think "rich men" are fazed by financial punishments like an astronomical rs 10 lacs? is this a scheme to deter rich men or enrich the coffers of rickshawalas and their daughters?

- rs 10 lacs -- gets a victim out of a scene and richer; deters unscrupulous rich from committing the same crime; avoids bad publicity. this sounds like dabur chyawanprash gold.

It will be a lesson to men in India, whether rich or poor, to not harass girls / women in work-place etc.

let us talk about the current instance and not lose focus. lesson to recuse pal?