Deepavali/Diwaali - another qostin

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Others don't do laxmi pooja? Why am I so clueless.

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Others don't do laxmi pooja? Why am I so clueless.

Kinnera wrote:Celebration of the winning of good over evil. That's the concept. Ram over ravana or krishna over kamsa is irrelevant. Now don't start off the petty fights, Narada mahamuni!

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Kinnera wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Others don't do laxmi pooja? Why am I so clueless.

Nopes, not in the south. but, I know that marwadies in hyd do it in their businesses (shops).

madrasi_idiot wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Others don't do laxmi pooja? Why am I so clueless.

Nopes, not in the south. but, I know that marwadies in hyd do it in their businesses (shops).

i think in south it's done about 2 months earlier. vara laxmi puja in tn?

truthbetold wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Satyabama killing narakasura ( not Krishna killing kamsa) .

Bx

Laxmi pooja is performed in ap but unlike Gujarat and marwari cultures it is not a new year celebration. No danteras. Either.

madrasi_idiot wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Others don't do laxmi pooja? Why am I so clueless.

laxmi puja, like navaratri and other pujas, falls multiple times a year. it is a regional choice as to which one to observe. in bengal laxmi puja is five days after durga puja (dusherra day).

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Just like Christmas is a winter festival celebrated by diff. groups usurped by Christians, Deepavali is most likely a cultural festival celebrated for different reasons and usurped by Hindus. Deepavali is celebrated by Jains as well.

Kris wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Just like Christmas is a winter festival celebrated by diff. groups usurped by Christians, Deepavali is most likely a cultural festival celebrated for different reasons and usurped by Hindus. Deepavali is celebrated by Jains as well.

>>I think that may hold for spring/harvest festivals, since those are celebrations of the onset of a season that would have had significance for farming populations. Deepavali doesn't seem to tie into anything like that. It quite likely has a religious (hindu) origin. Hinduism did grow organically, but it must have crystallized several centuries ago for there to be nationwide celebrations like this.

Kinnera wrote:

madrasi_idiot wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Others don't do laxmi pooja? Why am I so clueless.

Nopes, not in the south. but, I know that marwadies in hyd do it in their businesses (shops).

i think in south it's done about 2 months earlier. vara laxmi puja in tn?

Ya, true!

truthbetold wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

madrasi_idiot wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:Others don't do laxmi pooja? Why am I so clueless.

Nopes, not in the south. but, I know that marwadies in hyd do it in their businesses (shops).

i think in south it's done about 2 months earlier. vara laxmi puja in tn?

Ya, true!

Not sure. Vara laxmi puja is a women only kind of event.
I remember that we used to have laxmi as the center of puja. But then it is a long time ago.

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Just like Christmas is a winter festival celebrated by diff. groups usurped by Christians, Deepavali is most likely a cultural festival celebrated for different reasons and usurped by Hindus. Deepavali is celebrated by Jains as well.

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Kris wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Just like Christmas is a winter festival celebrated by diff. groups usurped by Christians, Deepavali is most likely a cultural festival celebrated for different reasons and usurped by Hindus. Deepavali is celebrated by Jains as well.

>>I think that may hold for spring/harvest festivals, since those are celebrations of the onset of a season that would have had significance for farming populations. Deepavali doesn't seem to tie into anything like that. It quite likely has a religious (hindu) origin. Hinduism did grow organically, but it must have crystallized several centuries ago for there to be nationwide celebrations like this.

Just like 30 days of fasting in a holy month predates Islam and usurped by Muslims as Ramzan/Ramadan, Deepavali is a cultural festival usurped by "modern" Hindus, we can clearly see as every region celebrates for its own reasons.. For Gujaratis, it also brings a new year as well..

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Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Kris wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Naarthies celebrate DiWaali as the occasion of Ram defeating Ravan

Southies celebrate Deepavali as the occasion of Krishna defeating Kamsa.

Which one is right ?

Just like Christmas is a winter festival celebrated by diff. groups usurped by Christians, Deepavali is most likely a cultural festival celebrated for different reasons and usurped by Hindus. Deepavali is celebrated by Jains as well.

>>I think that may hold for spring/harvest festivals, since those are celebrations of the onset of a season that would have had significance for farming populations. Deepavali doesn't seem to tie into anything like that. It quite likely has a religious (hindu) origin. Hinduism did grow organically, but it must have crystallized several centuries ago for there to be nationwide celebrations like this.

Just like 30 days of fasting in a holy month predates Islam and usurped by Muslims as Ramzan/Ramadan, Deepavali is a cultural festival usurped by "modern" Hindus, we can clearly see as every region celebrates for its own reasons.. For Gujaratis, it also brings a new year as well..

Sikhs also celebrate Deepavali....think as a new year?

madrasi_idiot wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Kris wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Just like Christmas is a winter festival celebrated by diff. groups usurped by Christians, Deepavali is most likely a cultural festival celebrated for different reasons and usurped by Hindus. Deepavali is celebrated by Jains as well.

>>I think that may hold for spring/harvest festivals, since those are celebrations of the onset of a season that would have had significance for farming populations. Deepavali doesn't seem to tie into anything like that. It quite likely has a religious (hindu) origin. Hinduism did grow organically, but it must have crystallized several centuries ago for there to be nationwide celebrations like this.

Just like 30 days of fasting in a holy month predates Islam and usurped by Muslims as Ramzan/Ramadan, Deepavali is a cultural festival usurped by "modern" Hindus, we can clearly see as every region celebrates for its own reasons.. For Gujaratis, it also brings a new year as well..

Sikhs also celebrate Deepavali....think as a new year?

interesting question. i googled:

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Diwali