Intolerance is rising they say, in comparison to what and when?

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

Like this worthy.

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

I think majority of the thinking wanking (*fixed*) population understands by now that this is largely an engineered tempest by previously coddled classes ("intellectuals") and congress fanboy douchebags to discredit modi with next elections in mind.

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

Even it isn't a new thing, Isn't the awareness in itself a sign of progress? Why do you always seem to suggest that social progress can take a back seat in the wake of or if it helps economic progress. Can't we treat those two as independent events that have no bearing on one another?

Kris wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

Even it isn't a new thing, Isn't the awareness in itself a sign of progress? Why do you always seem to suggest that social progress can take a back seat in the wake of or if it helps economic progress. Can't we treat those two as independent events that have no bearing on one another?

>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Timesnow/videos/10156335794775311/

>>>Ms.Kher is not aware of this, but intolerance is a new thing in India. It started just the other day. It is a good thing that the worthies have set their minds to solve it forthwith.

Even it isn't a new thing, Isn't the awareness in itself a sign of progress? Why do you always seem to suggest that social progress can take a back seat in the wake of or if it helps economic progress. Can't we treat those two as independent events that have no bearing on one another?

>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

What are those motives? Why would they be opposing the current administration? I hope you're not suggesting that all those that returned Sahitya Akademi Award(s) did for political/personal favors (from Congress) but not to condemn the death of the likes of Mr. Kalburgi. BTW, I do believe that people these days have lot more exposure to and became more aware and are vocal about social issues than ever, and the connections of current administration with fringe make everyone leery of their intentions.

confuzzled dude wrote:Gujarat riots are much recent than Sikh riots or Kashmir issue, was anyone aware, back then? Apparently not. As for Taslima, several writers supported her

Kris wrote:
>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

It is actually this attitude that is now at the center of the intolerance debate.

Dadri and those killings of rationalists would have been dismissed as a stray incidents if only the PM and his colleagues had unanimously and strongly condemned them as and when they happened. Instead, the PM maintained a studied silence for months even as his colleagues in the cabinet went about trivializing the events and loudmouths in the party actually justified them all to loud cheers from the party base.

The PM eventually spoke up about it, but only after being cornered by international media on the topic, so nobody gave it any credence.

And now the debate has expanded in scope. It is no longer about Dadri. Now it is really about this party and this government's ability to tolerate dissent. When people in responsible positions - such as cabinet ministers, official spokespersons etc - launch personal attacks on individuals who express dissent, *that* is the intolerance that is worrisome and out of place in a democracy. Writers who returned their awards are reviled. Their motives are questioned. Actors who spoke up are ridiculed and asked to go to Pakistan. Their own man, Arun Shourie, is singled out for vile abuse for questioning the direction of this government - and his disabled son is abused as well for his disability.  

I see very little scope for Mr 56 inches and his team to now get out of the ugly corner they have painted themselves into (and I hope you feel very proud of the role you and other helpful NRI patriots have played in this endeavor). With hate coloring everything they say and do, they can kiss goodbye to any hopes of bipartisan support for any reform agenda they might have planned. And they have nobody to blame for this but themselves.

Kris wrote:
>>>> Congratulations. I guess, are in order with this erstwhile hope that bipartisan support was ever a possibility and I hope you are proud of yourself for promoting this newfound 'intolerance' tempest in a teapot. Meanwhile, cities are getting wiped out with floods, but this intolerance debate must go on. Mission accomplished.

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>> Congratulations. I guess, are in order with this erstwhile hope that bipartisan support was ever a possibility and I hope you are proud of yourself for promoting this newfound 'intolerance' tempest in a teapot. Meanwhile, cities are getting wiped out with floods, but this intolerance debate must go on. Mission accomplished.

This is such a trivial issue and yet you felt compelled to post the maximum number of posts on this thread. Well done, sir.

Kris wrote:

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>> Congratulations. I guess, are in order with this erstwhile hope that bipartisan support was ever a possibility and I hope you are proud of yourself for promoting this newfound 'intolerance' tempest in a teapot. Meanwhile, cities are getting wiped out with floods, but this intolerance debate must go on. Mission accomplished.

This is such a trivial issue and yet you felt compelled to post the maximum number of posts on this thread. Well done, sir.

>>>Err.. aren't you the one who has been going on and on trying to justify it?

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

It is actually this attitude that is now at the center of the intolerance debate.

Dadri and those killings of rationalists would have been dismissed as a stray incidents if only the PM and his colleagues had unanimously and strongly condemned them as and when they happened. Instead, the PM maintained a studied silence for months even as his colleagues in the cabinet went about trivializing the events and loudmouths in the party actually justified them all to loud cheers from the party base.

The PM eventually spoke up about it, but only after being cornered by international media on the topic, so nobody gave it any credence.

And now the debate has expanded in scope. It is no longer about Dadri. Now it is really about this party and this government's ability to tolerate dissent. When people in responsible positions - such as cabinet ministers, official spokespersons etc - launch personal attacks on individuals who express dissent, *that* is the intolerance that is worrisome and out of place in a democracy. Writers who returned their awards are reviled. Their motives are questioned. Actors who spoke up are ridiculed and asked to go to Pakistan. Their own man, Arun Shourie, is singled out for vile abuse for questioning the direction of this government - and his disabled son is abused as well for his disability.  

I see very little scope for Mr 56 inches and his team to now get out of the ugly corner they have painted themselves into (and I hope you feel very proud of the role you and other helpful NRI patriots have played in this endeavor). With hate coloring everything they say and do, they can kiss goodbye to any hopes of bipartisan support for any reform agenda they might have planned. And they have nobody to blame for this but themselves.

The morons all over India are now declaring India intolerent because Modi didn't address Dadri? What kind of idiotic logic is this? You don't like 1 person and then defame the whole country? Those sons if bitches are discussing in private to leave India because if this?

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

It is actually this attitude that is now at the center of the intolerance debate.

Dadri and those killings of rationalists would have been dismissed as a stray incidents if only the PM and his colleagues had unanimously and strongly condemned them as and when they happened. Instead, the PM maintained a studied silence for months even as his colleagues in the cabinet went about trivializing the events and loudmouths in the party actually justified them all to loud cheers from the party base.

The PM eventually spoke up about it, but only after being cornered by international media on the topic, so nobody gave it any credence.

And now the debate has expanded in scope. It is no longer about Dadri. Now it is really about this party and this government's ability to tolerate dissent. When people in responsible positions - such as cabinet ministers, official spokespersons etc - launch personal attacks on individuals who express dissent, *that* is the intolerance that is worrisome and out of place in a democracy. Writers who returned their awards are reviled. Their motives are questioned. Actors who spoke up are ridiculed and asked to go to Pakistan. Their own man, Arun Shourie, is singled out for vile abuse for questioning the direction of this government - and his disabled son is abused as well for his disability.  

I see very little scope for Mr 56 inches and his team to now get out of the ugly corner they have painted themselves into (and I hope you feel very proud of the role you and other helpful NRI patriots have played in this endeavor). With hate coloring everything they say and do, they can kiss goodbye to any hopes of bipartisan support for any reform agenda they might have planned. And they have nobody to blame for this but themselves.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

It is actually this attitude that is now at the center of the intolerance debate.

Dadri and those killings of rationalists would have been dismissed as a stray incidents if only the PM and his colleagues had unanimously and strongly condemned them as and when they happened. Instead, the PM maintained a studied silence for months even as his colleagues in the cabinet went about trivializing the events and loudmouths in the party actually justified them all to loud cheers from the party base.

The PM eventually spoke up about it, but only after being cornered by international media on the topic, so nobody gave it any credence.

And now the debate has expanded in scope. It is no longer about Dadri. Now it is really about this party and this government's ability to tolerate dissent. When people in responsible positions - such as cabinet ministers, official spokespersons etc - launch personal attacks on individuals who express dissent, *that* is the intolerance that is worrisome and out of place in a democracy. Writers who returned their awards are reviled. Their motives are questioned. Actors who spoke up are ridiculed and asked to go to Pakistan. Their own man, Arun Shourie, is singled out for vile abuse for questioning the direction of this government - and his disabled son is abused as well for his disability.  

I see very little scope for Mr 56 inches and his team to now get out of the ugly corner they have painted themselves into (and I hope you feel very proud of the role you and other helpful NRI patriots have played in this endeavor). With hate coloring everything they say and do, they can kiss goodbye to any hopes of bipartisan support for any reform agenda they might have planned. And they have nobody to blame for this but themselves.

hey pint sized asshole nephew, you are delusional thinking there's bipartisan support from those parties for *anything* that BJP attempts.

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>You don't seriously believe that the award-returners and the protesters just recently became aware of social problems, do you? What is being called into question is the motive, not whether social problems need to be solved. The answer to that is self-evident, be it with reference to this government or the previous government. The answer to your question on social vs. economic progress, yes they are different events, but not unrelated. While economic progress is itself not a panacea, it will go a long way toward lessening tensions. If your stomach is full and you have something meaningful to do, you have less time to worry about your neighbor's life. This is the reason I think it is a crucial pressure point to hit if you want to make a breakthrough.

It is actually this attitude that is now at the center of the intolerance debate.

Dadri and those killings of rationalists would have been dismissed as a stray incidents if only the PM and his colleagues had unanimously and strongly condemned them as and when they happened. Instead, the PM maintained a studied silence for months even as his colleagues in the cabinet went about trivializing the events and loudmouths in the party actually justified them all to loud cheers from the party base.

The PM eventually spoke up about it, but only after being cornered by international media on the topic, so nobody gave it any credence.

And now the debate has expanded in scope. It is no longer about Dadri. Now it is really about this party and this government's ability to tolerate dissent. When people in responsible positions - such as cabinet ministers, official spokespersons etc - launch personal attacks on individuals who express dissent, *that* is the intolerance that is worrisome and out of place in a democracy. Writers who returned their awards are reviled. Their motives are questioned. Actors who spoke up are ridiculed and asked to go to Pakistan. Their own man, Arun Shourie, is singled out for vile abuse for questioning the direction of this government - and his disabled son is abused as well for his disability.  

I see very little scope for Mr 56 inches and his team to now get out of the ugly corner they have painted themselves into (and I hope you feel very proud of the role you and other helpful NRI patriots have played in this endeavor). With hate coloring everything they say and do, they can kiss goodbye to any hopes of bipartisan support for any reform agenda they might have planned. And they have nobody to blame for this but themselves.

truthbetold wrote:
Merlot sipping jehadi apologist logic,

if the PM of a country of 1250 millions of people did not comment on a law and order problem in a state under a different govt rule, then indian secularism is murdured.
 
On the other hand it is wrong to ask why pseudo secular intellectuals are silent in the face of thousands of terrorist murders in  tens of different countries over the past two or three decades, jehadi apologist resorts to personal slander.

P.S.: If jehadi apologist writes 500 words of incoherent nonsensical opinion as kind of justification, it is a logical masterpiece.

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>> Congratulations. I guess, are in order with this erstwhile hope that bipartisan support was ever a possibility and I hope you are proud of yourself for promoting this newfound 'intolerance' tempest in a teapot. Meanwhile, cities are getting wiped out with floods, but this intolerance debate must go on. Mission accomplished.

This is such a trivial issue and yet you felt compelled to post the maximum number of posts on this thread. Well done, sir.

>>>Err.. aren't you the one who has been going on and on trying to justify it?

You are the one calling it a tempest in a teacup. Yet, 6 out of the 21 posts on this thread belong to you. Shouldn't you be spending more time on that Chennai flooding thread instead?