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Post by confuzzled dude Tue May 03, 2016 7:39 pm

Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.

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Post by ashdoc Tue May 03, 2016 8:51 pm

if gautamiputra did not demolish places of worship of other communities than his own , then he was better than aurangzeb . if he did not enforce a jizya like tax on other communities , then he was better than aurangzeb . 

aurangzeb killed another king ( sambhaji , son of shivaji ) by first flaying him alive , then removing his tongue and gouging out his eyes and then cutting his body into little pieces and feeding it to dogs . if gautamiputra did not do something as brutal as that , then he was better than aurangzeb .

but are you coming down from your secular throne to accept aurangzeb as bad ?

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Tue May 03, 2016 9:13 pm

You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.

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Post by confuzzled dude Tue May 03, 2016 10:18 pm

ashdoc wrote:if gautamiputra did not demolish places of worship of other communities than his own , then he was better than aurangzeb . if he did not enforce a jizya like tax on other communities , then he was better than aurangzeb . 

aurangzeb killed another king ( sambhaji , son of shivaji ) by first flaying him alive , then removing his tongue and gouging out his eyes and then cutting his body into little pieces and feeding it to dogs . if gautamiputra did not do something as brutal as that , then he was better than aurangzeb .

but are you coming down from your secular throne to accept aurangzeb as bad ?
Satakarni levied tax only on non-brahmins and he killed several kings, one of them was Nahapana.

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Post by confuzzled dude Tue May 03, 2016 10:19 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.
All of the above don't change the fact that he did prohibit inter-caste marriages.

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Post by ashdoc Wed May 04, 2016 1:44 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
ashdoc wrote:if gautamiputra did not demolish places of worship of other communities than his own , then he was better than aurangzeb . if he did not enforce a jizya like tax on other communities , then he was better than aurangzeb . 

aurangzeb killed another king ( sambhaji , son of shivaji ) by first flaying him alive , then removing his tongue and gouging out his eyes and then cutting his body into little pieces and feeding it to dogs . if gautamiputra did not do something as brutal as that , then he was better than aurangzeb .

but are you coming down from your secular throne to accept aurangzeb as bad ?
Satakarni levied tax only on non-brahmins and he killed several kings, one of them was Nahapana.
This one line answer does not make him equal to aurangzeb.

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Post by ashdoc Wed May 04, 2016 1:47 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.
All of the above don't change the fact that he did prohibit inter-caste marriages.
That does not make him equal to demolisher of temples.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed May 04, 2016 10:55 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:You chose to highlight something in a CONish way to undermine Gautamiputra's greatness. The impact of Satavahanas on culture was great. People of Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Odisha benefited from their rule. Most traditions that people of these regions still follow come from the Satavahana era. Satavahanas set the stage for the revival of Hinduism and Guptas further fostered it. Satavahanas, at the same time, protected Buddhism.
All of the above don't change the fact that he did prohibit inter-caste marriages.
He didn't live in Sikular India. If he permitted inter-caste marriages in his era, he would have been very unpopular.

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Post by Hellsangel Wed May 04, 2016 11:02 am

On the other hand, no one has prohibited this yet. They ought to:

https://books.google.com/books?id=BLLmbgt8wNgC&lpg=PA948&ots=u1Q-XF5KxV&dq=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&pg=PA948#v=onepage&q=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&f=false
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed May 04, 2016 12:39 pm

Hellsangel wrote:On the other hand, no one has prohibited this yet. They ought to:

https://books.google.com/books?id=BLLmbgt8wNgC&lpg=PA948&ots=u1Q-XF5KxV&dq=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&pg=PA948#v=onepage&q=incestual%20marriages%20in%20contemporary%20andhra%20pradesh&f=false

I wonder if this practice came into hindu culture bcz of iSlam and its influence.

1. are there evidence of such marriages in mahabharata or Ramayana. If there had been then it should hv shown up somewhere in these magaepics.

2. I noticed this is common among Arabs and more importantly persians.

Makes me wonder if this moghulistani culture infoltrated the hindu culture as well.

Another theory: Hindus - fearing the kidnapping/raping of their daughters by mUghalistanis - married them off to the most readily available grooms - the uncles and cousins.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed May 04, 2016 1:08 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man  / woman)?
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Post by Hellsangel Wed May 04, 2016 1:09 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man  / woman)?
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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed May 04, 2016 1:12 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man  / woman)?
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and what became of him?
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Post by Hellsangel Wed May 04, 2016 1:17 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man  / woman)?
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and what became of him?
What was your original question, Sevaji? Anyway look up Morgantic marriage in Wikipedia for more historic examples.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed May 04, 2016 1:23 pm

CD:  Your credibility is going down the tube. Comparing a Satavahana with Aurangazeb is disgusting. Satavahanas were quite generous in restoring Buddhist religious structures. Aurangazeb was the guru of the guys who destroyed Bamiyan, Palmyra, etc. Disgusting!

When are your friends Soonya, Pappu and Jagan going to jail?

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Wed May 04, 2016 1:23 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Apparently, he prohibited inter-caste marriages, wonder how different was he from, say, Aurangzeb.
Did Aurangzeb have any wife who was not a Muslim? Moreover, have you heard of any king / queen elsewhere (including in Europe etc.) marrying in the past a person from "lower" caste (e.g. a carpenter or a cleaning man  / woman)?
King Edward VIII

and what became of him?
What was your original question, Sevaji? Anyway look up Morgantic marriage in Wikipedia for more historic examples.

The comment was with respect to the discouragement of marriage between man and woman of dissimilar socio-economic (inter-caste) status everywhere.
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