Re: Aurangzeb's generous side and love for books

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:33 pm

panini press wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:photo of a dog sleeping in the sun:

Is the dog's name Aurangzeb? Did you know that Aurangzeb loved dogs? I didn't either, but absent links that prove me wrong, I am going to put that out there and make it the truth.

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by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:34 pm

Aurangzeb's generous side and love for books - Page 9 Captur20

Aurangzeb's generous side and love for books - Page 9 Nizam-10

As you can see from the pictures above, there are significant differences between Aurangzeb and the Nizam. I am going to highlight those differences.

1. Miserly side: Aurangzeb's miserly side is a tad longer than Nizam's. Aurangzeb wins this one, but barely.

2. Philandering side: Aurangzeb's philandering side is tiny compared to the Nizam's. The Nizam wins this one by a lot.

3. Generous side: While the Nizam has a prominent generous side, Aurangzeb has him beat in this department. Sorry Nizam.

4. Treacherous side: Aurangzeb showed excellent potential in this department in his early years, but once he became top dog, he lost some of his treacherous edge. He was awesome at treachery when he fought his father and brothers. But the Nizam beats him easily with his support for Pakistan when India was at war with that ocuntry.

5. Deceitful side: There is no clear winner on this one. Both about the same.

6. Power-hungry side: The Nizam was no pushover when it came to hunger for power, but he can't hold a candle to Aurangzeb the Great in this department. Aurangzeb killed his own brothers to secure his hold on power. Nizam had no such luck; Aurangzeb wins.

7. Communal side: Aurangzeb has the stronger reputation for having a well-developed communal side, but that is only because the Nizam is not well-known outside Telangana. When evaluated on facts, it is clear that the Nizam has a much more elongated communal side than Aurangzeb. https://such.forumotion.com/t8491p400-aurangzeb-s-generous-side-and-love-for-books#67528

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:38 pm

Here is a helpful comparison of Aurangzeb with a not-communal king, the Nizam. As you can see, if Nizam is not-communal, Aurangzeb is at least not-communal x 6.

Criterion	Aurangzeb	The Nizam	Who is less communal?
Appointed Hindu commander-in-chief	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Policy made by Hindus	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Extolled by Sikh Guru Gobind Singh	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Abolished sati to protect Hindu women	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Appointed more than 100 Hindus to senior positions in government	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Inspired Bollywood to name movie after him	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Patronized paintings	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Issued firman ordering people to respect Hindu temples and brahmins	Yes	No	Aurangzeb
Inspired BW, a Hindu, to cook	No	Yes	Nizam
Traveled by airplane	No	Yes	Nizam
Built temple in Chitrakoot/Nanded	Yes	Yes	Both about the same
Formed private army to target all Hindus	No	No	Both about the same
Imposed jaziya on all Hindus	No	No	Both about the same
Did not impose jaziya on women, children and the elderly	Yes	Yes	Both about the same
Gave money to Hindu temples/university in Benaras	Yes	Yes	Both about the same
Destroyed some Hindu temples	Yes	Yes	Both about the same

Note 1: The table has been updated with Rashmun's latest point about giving money to Hindu temples/university, and about destruction of temples.

Note 2: This table was growing too big. So I have pruned some unremarkable common features of Aurangzeb and Nizam, like both of them being praised for their generosity, and both of them not attempting to rape their brother's widows. While commendable, these characteristics do not help us differentiate between these two fine rulers, hence the deletion.

Note 3: I have revised this table to incorporate evidence of the Nizam building a gurdwara. Aurangzeb built a temple in Chitrakoot, and Nizam built a gurdwara in Nanded. I have no problem admitting this and changing my mind about that point of comparison. From "Aurangzeb", that line item now goes to "Both about the same." Congratulations Nizam and Rashmun!

Note 4: When I made the last revision, I was a little unfair to the Nizam. I said, if Nizam is not-communal, Aurangzeb is not-communal x 10. But that was before, when the temple building in Chitrakoot was an advantage for Aurangzeb. Now that both candidates are tied on that, I revised my comparison above. (Again, see how fair I am to the Nizam when facts are presented.)

Note 5: Added a line for Aurangzeb's firman. Also added Aurangzeb's ban on sati.

Note 6: Added a line about inspiring Bollywood movies.

Note 7: Added a line about paintings.

Note 8: Added a line about inspiring BW to cook. Revised comparison factor to 8 down from 10.

Note 9: Added air travel line. New method for computing comparison factor: (number of items for Aurangzeb - number of items for Nizam) * 2 - number of items where they are the same. Applying this highly scientific method, we get: (8-2)*2 - 6 = 6.

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:42 pm

Congratulations to Aurangzeb and his many fans for another milestone in his career. This thread has now entered its ninth page. And it is now among the top 5 all-time threads on SuCH. With determination and patience, we will get to the top.

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:57 pm

There is a discussion going on regarding Aurangzeb in another thread. I would be remiss not to post links here.

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67462

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:57 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67465

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:58 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67466

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:58 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67531

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:58 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67532

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67533

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:59 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67536

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:59 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67537

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67542

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67545

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67549

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67550

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67551

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67564

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67565

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:01 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67566

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:01 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67567

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67569

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67570

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67571

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67572

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67574

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67575

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https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67576

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:18 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67578

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:18 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67607

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:18 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67609

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:18 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67611

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:19 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67615

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:22 pm

https://such.forumotion.com/t8873-charvaka-the-great-admirer-of-akbar-and-jahangir#67621

by Idéfix Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:28 pm

Thanks to the cross-referenced activity on the new thread linked above, this thread is already past the two-thirds mark compared the the Nizam thread. Nizam better watch out, Aurangzeb is coming for him!