NTR-Greatest actor in India

by yogi Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:30 pm

cnn-ibn survey in 5 different categories celebrating 100 years of Indian cinema.

1 Greatest Actor- Nandamuri Taraka Rama rao (53%)

2 Greatest Actress- Sridevi (39%)

3 Greatest Director- Mani Ratnam (29%)

4 Greatest music composer- Ilayaraja(49%)

5 Greatest film- Nayajan(42%)

by Obnoxious Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:12 am

ఖర్మ!!

by yogi Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:00 am

ఖర్మ ఎందుకు అప్పలమ్మ ఆంటి?

by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:13 am

nayajan? as in new people?

by Maria S Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:25 am

I did see the poll.

I have only seen NTR in two movies- starring in religious character-roles. Remember him being very handsome..but, looked up Wiki now (Wiki could have done better in picking a pic..like some of us would like to remember him:D!) Can't understand why Sivaji and Rajini are not even on the list- well, Sivaji is a Shakespearean-theatrical actor, but Rajini is brilliant in serious-character roles- must have been on the list, imo.

Sridevi..can see her among the best..from child star..maturing..with versatile roles.

*On a better note..delighted to see K. Balachander in the top three! He is my fav. director- when it comes to creating fantastic-multifaceted-strong "pudhumai penn" women roles!

*Nayagan..was ok. (3/5 stars) from me.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:35 am

why are naseeruddin shah, smita patil, rekha, and om puri not on the list?

by Maria S Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:39 am

Whoa..did not know Nayagan is so popular and adored(looked up some clips)..

This song is great..while Kamal can still be the hero..the actress Saranya has apparently been pushed to age..and is the top "Mother" role-star now in tamil cinema contemporary times..and really the BEST, imo! She is terrific and delightful too..was funny to see her emphatically say "No"..if they offered the role of Kamal's Amma to her!

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:19 am

I am sure Max is disappointed :-).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dwu7zTn2LI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDA0cOktspE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1yPBlDsP_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdoOJjX5AHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV5bRV8pt0

I personally wouldn't have picked NTR (especially after he became famous and fat).

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:35 am

Appalamma wrote:ఖర్మ!!

ఏటండి అలా నోట్లొ చుట్ట పెట్టుకొని, పూర్నా మార్కెట్టు పక్కన స్థంభించుకుపోయారు? నరసిహం ఏమన్నా అన్నాడా?

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:08 pm

just curious? this is a national poll. what is the point in using a regional language in posts? is there a hidden meaning? or is utter meant for only certain sub groups?

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:49 pm

the best among the movies i have seen:
best movie - mughal e azam
best dialogue - same as above
best song - pyar kiya to darna Kya?
also in top ten mention for mural e azam, best director-k. asif , pruthvi raj kapoor for best acting, naushad for music and madhubala for bringing anarkali to earth.

if i sound like a fan, it is because i am one.

by Kris Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:56 pm

truthbetold wrote:the best among the movies i have seen:
best movie - mughal e azam
best dialogue - same as above
best song - pyar kiya to darna Kya?
also in top ten mention for mural e azam, best director-k. asif , pruthvi raj kapoor for best acting, naushad for music and madhubala for bringing anarkali to earth.

if i sound like a fan, it is because i am one.

>>>>The best actor and I mean bar none, who was egregiously overloooked by the survey respondents and fellow SUCH'ers..

Now with no further ado...

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:37 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZiAKc_1ZrI
NTR-Greatest actor in India Watch?v=XZiAKc_1ZrI

kris,
the above link leads to a movie "adurs" with few hilarious scenes with ntr Jr. English subtitlesavailable.
i avoid progeny movies. none of them have talent to waste our time.

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:43 pm

NTR-Greatest actor in India Watch?v=8YusnyROdPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YusnyROdPY
kris,
this is the right clip with subtitles.

by Kris Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:00 pm

truthbetold wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YusnyROdPY
kris,
this is the right clip with subtitles.

>>> Its always fun to watch these theatrics. What I could make out, despite the english subtitles Smile

, was something about a brahmin family and our hero being the desired object of (presumably) the heroine. I got lost with how the guru figures into the whole thing. The girl is cute.

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:07 pm

girls family loses the bread winner. the elder guy brahmananandam helps the family with an eye on the cutie . he also funds young guys family. he takes the young guy under his wing but gets angry when the girl chooses the hero over him.
this is one of the times ntr Jr showed ability to deliver dialogues and show some acting talent.

by Kris Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:12 pm

truthbetold wrote:girls family loses the bread winner. the elder guy brahmananandam helps the family with an eye on the cutie . he also funds young guys family. he takes the young guy under his wing but gets angry when the girl chooses the hero over him.
this is one of the times ntr Jr showed ability to deliver dialogues and show some acting talent.

>>>>Actually, that is not a bad story line. The usual problem I find in indian flicks is that they over-dialogue the damn thing and suffocate the story. By the way, if you haven't seen Silver Linings Playbook, would recommend it- De Niro, Bradley Cooper and Anupam Kher in a small but semi important role and of course, Jennifer Lawrence

by Obnoxious Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:44 pm

Kris wrote:
truthbetold wrote:girls family loses the bread winner. the elder guy brahmananandam helps the family with an eye on the cutie . he also funds young guys family. he takes the young guy under his wing but gets angry when the girl chooses the hero over him.
this is one of the times ntr Jr showed ability to deliver dialogues and show some acting talent.

>>>>Actually, that is not a bad story line. The usual problem I find in indian flicks is that they over-dialogue the damn thing and suffocate the story. By the way, if you haven't seen Silver Linings Playbook, would recommend it- De Niro, Bradley Cooper and Anupam Kher in a small but semi important role and of course, Jennifer Lawrence

I HATED silver linings playbook!

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:04 pm

kris,
that is a side story but pretty funny. the called main is f'ed bad guy and good story with twinsrolled in. the only bright spots in the movie are in agraharam bit.

i missed silver linings and i like deniro.

by Obnoxious Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:05 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Appalamma wrote:ఖర్మ!!

ఏటండి అలా నోట్లొ చుట్ట పెట్టుకొని, పూర్నా మార్కెట్టు పక్కన స్థంభించుకుపోయారు? నరసిహం ఏమన్నా అన్నాడా?

ఏటి బాబు! నాను సుట్టనొగ్గేసి తిట్టానంటే, ఎవులు ఏటి సెయ్యగలరు?

by Seva Lamberdar Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:47 pm

what do the MGR fans think of NTR getting the top billing?

by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:36 pm

greatest overactor actually!

by Uppili Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:46 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:I am sure Max is disappointed :-).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dwu7zTn2LI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDA0cOktspE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1yPBlDsP_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdoOJjX5AHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV5bRV8pt0

I personally wouldn't have picked NTR (especially after he became famous and fat).

Why you gults are always copying Tamil movies and songs?

I suspect that the survey was taken by a Guilt.

Survey or no survey - here is the one unquestioned supreme actor:

Rajnikanhth Sir

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:10 pm

Why you gults are always copying Tamil movies and songs?

NTR-Greatest actor in India 3077217049

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:41 pm

truthbetold wrote:just curious? this is a national poll. what is the point in using a regional language in posts? is there a hidden meaning? or is utter meant for only certain sub groups?

Looks like you don't know that Telugu is second only to Hindi in Indian languages spoken. Movie industry in SI (Madras) is older than that in Bombay. Also, many Hindi movies are remakes of either Telugu or Tamil movies.

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:53 pm

Sandilya garu,
The reply does not answer the question. It is related to communicating with such readers. I am not disputing your right or others right to publish whatever you want in any language. Just wondering why talk in a regional language about a national poll.

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:58 pm

Uppili and maria,
both of you mentioned rajanikanth as a great actor. He is a better actor than kamal hassan but is he better than sivaji? Most of the movies i saw he was overacting and repeats his mannarisms such as flipping cigarettes.

by Kayalvizhi Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:01 pm

akthogh i did not like sivaji ganesans self centered politics, i consider him among the best actors in the world. NTR is no where near him.

by truthbetold Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:10 pm

Kv,
what do you know about ntr and his acting?

by Kayalvizhi Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:29 pm

truthbetold wrote:the best among the movies i have seen:
best movie - mughal e azam
best dialogue - same as above
best song - pyar kiya to darna Kya?
also in top ten mention for mural e azam, best director-k. asif , pruthvi raj kapoor for best acting, naushad for music and madhubala for bringing anarkali to earth.

if i sound like a fan, it is because i am one.

y r u picking everything from ur local language?

by Uppili Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:38 am

truthbetold wrote:Uppili and maria,
both of you mentioned rajanikanth as a great actor. He is a better actor than kamal hassan but is he better than sivaji? Most of the movies i saw he was overacting and repeats his mannarisms such as flipping cigarettes.

Looks like you are losing your ability to read "the message" in my posts.

Rajni is a great actor who acts shitty for the last 30 years. you should see his pre-1985 movies to see his acting skills. He was too good as a villain in the 70s movies.

He just does not want to act well bcz there is no need (just like MGR).

by truthbetold Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:41 am

Kv,
I said among the movies i have seen. They will be in languages i know.

My question to you was have you seen ntr's movies to make comparisons? Your refusal to answer itself is an answer.

by truthbetold Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:50 am

Uppiliji,
Us mortals do not always catch the sarcasm in samiyar's utterins. You have to be patient with us non mensa beings.
Rajnikanth is a good actor by any measure. If your measurement says otherwise then exchange it with nityanand.
The question is can he be placed in the same league as sivaji?

by Kayalvizhi Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:08 am

truthbetold wrote:Kv,

My question to you was have you seen ntr's movies to make comparisons? Your refusal to answer itself is an answer.

yes

by Uppili Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:15 am

truthbetold wrote:Uppiliji,
Us mortals do not always catch the sarcasm in samiyar's utterins. You have to be patient with us non mensa beings.
Rajnikanth is a good actor by any measure. If your measurement says otherwise then exchange it with nityanand.
The question is can he be placed in the same league as sivaji?

To be honest, I dont label anyone in India as a great(est) actor - at least the most commercially popular ones. They have acted well in many movies but also were 9are) lousy in many movies.

I like Sean Connery, Nassirudin Shah, and many current crop of youngsters - not the box office masala heros.

P.S. I like this new girl Anjali (Gult actress) whose newest movie - Vathikutchi (match stick) - I am waiting for. I rechecked her wiki page and (smartly) the birthdate has been removed.She is a latecomer for movies and she was almost 25 (in 2006). It was there in Wiki sometime back and I made a mental note. She is a well-respected except she is already 31. But, she looks great and can easily pass for a 24 yr old.

by Uppili Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:47 am

yogi wrote:cnn-ibn survey in 5 different categories celebrating 100 years of Indian cinema.

1 Greatest Actor- Nandamuri Taraka Rama rao (53%)

2 Greatest Actress- Sridevi (39%)

3 Greatest Director- Mani Ratnam (29%)

4 Greatest music composer- Ilayaraja(49%)

5 Greatest film- Nayajan(42%)

Prakash Raj

by truthbetold Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:48 am

Uppiliji,

Now i understand your thinking on the subject.
Just my opinion on the actors you listed:
naseeruddin shah - good actor. My favorite. But not in amitabh and dilip kumar class.
Prakash raj - above average. Not even close to great character actors like sv ranga rao.
Sean connery - he is a hero but can he show any emotions? I would not put him in my actor column. Peter o' toole, marlin brando, jimmy stewart. Now those are great talent.

by Obnoxious Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:55 am

truthbetold wrote:Uppiliji,

Now i understand your thinking on the subject.
Just my opinion on the actors you listed:
naseeruddin shah - good actor. My favorite. But not in amitabh and dilip kumar class.
Prakash raj - above average. Not even close to great character actors like sv ranga rao.
Sean connery - he is a hero but can he show any emotions? I would not put him in my actor column. Peter o' toole, marlin brando, jimmy stewart. Now those are great talent.

Any film industry that calls Amitabh & Dilip Kumar great actors should not be making films.

by Uppili Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:04 am

Appalamma wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Uppiliji,

Now i understand your thinking on the subject.
Just my opinion on the actors you listed:
naseeruddin shah - good actor. My favorite. But not in amitabh and dilip kumar class.
Prakash raj - above average. Not even close to great character actors like sv ranga rao.
Sean connery - he is a hero but can he show any emotions? I would not put him in my actor column. Peter o' toole, marlin brando, jimmy stewart. Now those are great talent.

Any film industry that calls Amitabh & Dilip Kumar great actors should not be making films.

Komboletely agree.... especially Amitabh...he is very highly overrated.

by yogi Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:16 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:akthogh i did not like sivaji ganesans self centered politics, i consider him among the best actors in the world. ~~NTR is no where near him~~.

haha kayal aunty please stop joking. you and your separatist posts are already of laughing stock, now restrain yourself from making comments about great personalities.

by yogi Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:28 am

Why this gaga over ntr winning the greatest actor award? 53% of the people in India think he's the best. please stop whining now. Period

by truthbetold Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:53 am

Appalamma wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Uppiliji,

Now i understand your thinking on the subject.
Just my opinion on the actors you listed:
naseeruddin shah - good actor. My favorite. But not in amitabh and dilip kumar class.
Prakash raj - above average. Not even close to great character actors like sv ranga rao.
Sean connery - he is a hero but can he show any emotions? I would not put him in my actor column. Peter o' toole, marlin brando, jimmy stewart. Now those are great talent.

Any film industry that calls Amitabh & Dilip Kumar great actors should not be making films.

you are entitled to your exclusive opinions. Investors, experts, film critics, and masses may differ with you.

by Maria S Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:13 am

quote="truthbetold"]Uppili and maria,
both of you mentioned rajanikanth as a great actor. He is a better actor than kamal hassan but is he better than sivaji? Most of the movies i saw he was overacting and repeats his mannarisms such as flipping cigarettes. [/quote]

TBT,

I was serious..it's impossible to compare any "great" actor-legend with others. It's not fair to any great actor, and one can always admire and praise someone without putting down/demeaning others! A brilliant critic can brilliantly analyze an actor as good or good, but legends are made by the commoners-masses who don't have to be educated or wealthy..they know something "special" when they see it in coming alive- light up the screen.
*You can NEVER fool the masses, in regards to elevating them to the great ones (universal!)

In regards to tamil movies, since I know a little (having seen a lot - being part of the masses)..think Sivaji, MGR, Kamal, Rajini are among the all time greats-legends. *MGR was perhaps the least "theatrical actor" among them and had an agenda..but, there was something authentic and unique about him-just like the other *three legends.

Here is a short clip- Rajini in one of my fav. movies (of all time- including English movies)- "Mullum Malarum"..His arm is amputated following an injury, and his boss Sarath Babu tells him he is fired..and he responds with "After all..we are human beings and I would have done the same if I were you and don't worry, I am a bad guy- even if I lose my arms and legs, I will survive".

And for contrast..he is a funny clip from Muthu- it's a bit long can start watching from watch from 2.0 (it's many years after that one above with Sarath Babu)..*as a commoner among the masses..I like folk music, village dramas etc- so liked this one too:) Does not need translation! It just shows his versatility.

by truthbetold Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:43 am

Maria,
i agree that masses have a role in deciding greatness but in commercial world in my opinion masses cannot be the single or primary factor. if we leave it to masses mgr is the greatest ever in the world. we know that is not a fact.
rajani is a good actor with a limited range. he is great in few roles. sivaji has broader range and can live a role. both overact so it cancels out.
that is my two cents based on a limited sample.

by Maria S Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:56 am

truthbetold wrote:Maria,
i agree that masses have a role in deciding greatness but in commercial world in my opinion masses cannot be the single or primary factor. if we leave it to masses mgr is the greatest ever in the world. we know that is not a fact.
rajani is a good actor with a limited range. he is great in few roles. sivaji has broader range and can live a role. both overact so it cancels out.
that is my two cents based on a limited sample.

TBT,

Sure..will add my 98 cents and will round-up, am done on this topic:)

Have a good day!

by b_A Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:21 pm

This is a meaningless poll. I think initially when it was still obscure, only a few telugu people voted. Now that it has become a little more popular, others started voting in. Kamal Hasan is leading now , which may change when Rajni fans get wind of it.

by Propagandhi711 Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:22 pm

they might have mistaken greatest to mean most impactful. NTR is the most impactful movie actor, certainly among the top 3 in indian movie history.

by b_A Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:34 pm

Unless you are looking for it , you cannot even find this poll on the website.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/crowning-indian-cinemas-greatest-vote-for-the-best-artistes-of-100-years/373798-8-66.html

Make you own conclusions regarding the validity of this poll.

BTW , is savitri's full name kommareddy savitri ?

by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:50 pm

b_A wrote:
BTW , is savitri's full name kommareddy savitri ?

Yes, till she became Ganeshan.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:41 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:akthogh i did not like sivaji ganesans self centered politics, i consider him among the best actors in the world. NTR is no where near him.

Let us be clear. butcher Prabhakaran was the greatest. Even the oil in which he now resides is the hottest in history. Hope he is coping with it.

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