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Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:25 am
This is my first attempt at posting cryptics, so please bear with me for any errors or unclear clues.
1. Heard about payment for a hiding place. (5)
2. To conclude a negation from a blazing fire. (7)
3. Argue again that structure has historical intrinsic value. (6)
4. Cultivate box for valuables. (4)
5. Anagram act distorts charter issued in 1215. (5,5)
6. Add zest for a sharp increase. (5)
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
9. Famous French vineyards told of voyage from port to port. (6)
10. Mr. Ganpat Ram, an aged chef, contrived to make pavakkai pitlai within. (7)
1. Heard about payment for a hiding place. (5)
2. To conclude a negation from a blazing fire. (7)
3. Argue again that structure has historical intrinsic value. (6)
4. Cultivate box for valuables. (4)
5. Anagram act distorts charter issued in 1215. (5,5)
6. Add zest for a sharp increase. (5)
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
9. Famous French vineyards told of voyage from port to port. (6)
10. Mr. Ganpat Ram, an aged chef, contrived to make pavakkai pitlai within. (7)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:48 am
4. Cultivate box for valuables. (4)
TILL? (double defintion)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:49 am
1. Heard about payment for a hiding place. (5)
CACHE? (sounds like CASH)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:52 am
Close, but no.Pope Francis wrote:DAMPENED? dam(pen)ed
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:52 am
3. Argue again that structure has historical intrinsic value. (6)
REHASH (hidden)
REHASH (hidden)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:00 am
Correct.bw wrote:3. Argue again that structure has historical intrinsic value. (6)
REHASH (hidden)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:03 am
6. Add zest for a sharp increase. (5)
SPIKE? (dbl defn)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:07 am
Correct.bw wrote:
6. Add zest for a sharp increase. (5)
SPIKE? (dbl defn)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:10 am
9. Famous French vineyards told of voyage from port to port. (6)
CRUISE (sounds like crus)
ganpat ram and pavakkai pitlai??? ayyyo. have to crack that one.
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:27 am
2. To conclude a negation from a blazing fire. (7)
INFERNO( infer + no)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by indophile Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:29 am
MANAGED (hid)?trofimov wrote:
10. Mr. Ganpat Ra m, an aged chef, contrived to make pavakkai pitlai within. (7)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by indophile Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:16 am
DECREASE ---- d(ec)ries - homtrofimov wrote:
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:35 am
Correct.bw wrote:
9. Famous French vineyards told of voyage from port to port. (6)
CRUISE (sounds like crus)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:35 am
Correct.bw wrote:
2. To conclude a negation from a blazing fire. (7)
INFERNO( infer + no)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:36 am
Correct.indophile wrote:MANAGED (hid)?trofimov wrote:
10. Mr. Ganpat Ra m, an aged chef, contrived to make pavakkai pitlai within. (7)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:36 am
No.indophile wrote:DECREASE ---- d(ec)ries - homtrofimov wrote:
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:38 am
These remain:
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
Hint: Anagram
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
Hint: Word in anagram of another word
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
Hint: Anagram
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
Hint: Word in anagram of another word
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by indophile Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:09 am
Is it just one word with 12 letters?trofimov wrote:
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
Hint: Anagram
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:31 am
Yes. It is a British word, not American.indophile wrote:Is it just one word with 12 letters?trofimov wrote:
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
Hint: Anagram
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by b_A Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:30 pm
trofimov wrote:Yes. It is a British word, not American.indophile wrote:Is it just one word with 12 letters?trofimov wrote:
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
Hint: Anagram
schoolmaster ( the clasroom anag)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:49 pm
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
Hint 1: Word in anagram of another word
Hint 2: The pope is right about small enclosure... that's pen. Think about another word for vision, rearrange it, and put "pen" in it to get the answer.
Hint 1: Word in anagram of another word
Hint 2: The pope is right about small enclosure... that's pen. Think about another word for vision, rearrange it, and put "pen" in it to get the answer.
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:01 pm
trofimov wrote:8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
Hint 1: Word in anagram of another word
Hint 2: The pope is right about small enclosure... that's pen. Think about another word for vision, rearrange it, and put "pen" in it to get the answer.
DAMPENER (pen inside anagram of DREAM)
great set for a first attempt! thanks. i liked all the clues except 7,8 and 10.
hope you don't mind my comments.
7. Disheveled teacher in the classroom. (12)
this clue does not follow the rule that word play and definition should remain separated. in general, a cryptic clue should have the format <word play><defn> or <defn><word play>. mixing them up is not allowed. in the above clue, "disheveled", the anagram indicator is not tied with its fodder "the classroom" and the definition 'teacher' is in the middle of it.
8. Small enclosure in a broken vision achieves noise reduction. ( 8 )
normally, the actual word that is scrambled should be used in the clue(in this case, 'dream') and not its synonym. this rule is often flouted by some crossword setters.
10. Mr. Ganpat Ram, an aged chef, contrived to make pavakkai pitlai within. (7)
this one foxed me totally. what does pavakkai pitlai have anything to do with the answer? also, i could not find any word in the clue that means "managed". is it "contrived"? the format is not right, in that case.
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:30 pm
DAMPENER is correct.
Thank you for the feedback... I appreciate it. I am all new to this, so this is how I will learn.
For 7, I originally had it set up as "Teacher in the classroom, disheveled." Would that have worked better?
For 8, I see your point.
For 10, I did intend "contrived to make something difficult" to mean "managed." Throwing in the pavakkai pitlai was a joke... my first thought was to say "contrived to prepare a difficult dish." Not sure if that would have been better.
Any feedback about the rest of the clues is also welcome. (Not just BW, but others too!)
Thank you for the feedback... I appreciate it. I am all new to this, so this is how I will learn.
For 7, I originally had it set up as "Teacher in the classroom, disheveled." Would that have worked better?
For 8, I see your point.
For 10, I did intend "contrived to make something difficult" to mean "managed." Throwing in the pavakkai pitlai was a joke... my first thought was to say "contrived to prepare a difficult dish." Not sure if that would have been better.
Any feedback about the rest of the clues is also welcome. (Not just BW, but others too!)
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by bw Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:27 am
trofimov wrote:DAMPENER is correct.
Thank you for the feedback... I appreciate it. I am all new to this, so this is how I will learn.
For 7, I originally had it set up as "Teacher in the classroom, disheveled." Would that have worked better?
For 8, I see your point.
For 10, I did intend "contrived to make something difficult" to mean "managed." Throwing in the pavakkai pitlai was a joke... my first thought was to say "contrived to prepare a difficult dish." Not sure if that would have been better.
Any feedback about the rest of the clues is also welcome. (Not just BW, but others too!)
yes - if "disheveled" was at the end, it would have followed the prescribed convention. the other clues were all very nice and tight - i liked "inferno" in particular.
for #10, "within" was used to indicate that the word is hidden i suppose. i was thrown off by pavakkai pitlai and was thinking of dravid gurls, iyer boys etc. :-)
anyway, these are some of the "ximenean principles" and several crossword setters do not follow them. i am a huge fan of "araucaria", a guardian crossword writer and he is a ximenean. of course, there is the libertarian camp who don't care for all these rules. you may choose your side.
some interesting links on all this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptic_crossword
http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/01/what-are-ximenean-clues.html
http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/01/ximenean-vs-libertarian.html
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by indophile Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:24 am
Wouldn't "Teacher confused the classroom. (12)" be nice and tight (dead giveaway too)?
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Re: Thursday cryptics
by Idéfix Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:04 pm
Yeah, that would have been tighter.
Thanks for posting those links, BW. I didn't know about this Ximenes character. I will read up and try to follow the rules on my next attempt.
Thanks for posting those links, BW. I didn't know about this Ximenes character. I will read up and try to follow the rules on my next attempt.
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