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Post by Rishi Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:40 pm

KV,

Nelson Mandela took to violent struggle when he had no choice. But then he was ready to negotiate for the sake of a united nation. Don't you think Prabhakaran could have done the same?

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:50 pm

Rishi wrote:KV,

Nelson Mandela took to violent struggle when he had no choice. But then he was ready to negotiate for the sake of a united nation. Don't you think Pirabhakaran could have done the same?
Hindians (oops...sinhalese) are worse than whites and Afrikaners.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:22 pm

Rishi wrote:KV,

Nelson Mandela took to violent struggle when he had no choice. But then he was ready to negotiate for the sake of a united nation. Don't you think Prabhakaran could have done the same?
You are a naive fellow. A negotiated settlement is possible only if the other side wants a negotiatyed settlemenmt too. Sri Lanka did not.

If LKTTE was the reason for no negotiation, why there is no newgoitiation now. Do you know that the elected chiewf minister of Norther4 Province was not allowded t go anmd see a damaged temple because army said that it is in High Security Zone and he cannot be allowed. If Lankan gov does not trust the chief ministder how can there be any negotiation?

North Province police chief said that he will not take any order from the chief minister but only from Lankan gov.

LTTE did the right thing but failed to achieve its goal.

By the way African apartheid ended not because local resistance but from foreign pressure, South African gov was ready to talk only after US joined the economic sanctions against it. Whenever western govs put prewssure on Lanka, India softened it. When western countries wanted to end some international loan for 2 billion dollars, India said it would loan the money. Lanka has no insentive to talk peace.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:28 pm

the truth is that pirabakaran was a selfish mofo who while he may have started out as a young revolutionary who wanted to deliver his people into an equal society became a monstrous fat pig who only cared about his own survival. i am not much of a believer, but if there is such a thing as heaven or hell, i hope he is rotting in hell for his crimes against the tamil people and little children. i think it's insulting to compare him with nelson mandela.
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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:34 pm

Mandela offered to mediate between Lankan gov and LTTE. LTTE agreed and Lanka refused. Make your own conclusion.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:38 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:Mandela offered to mediate between Lankan gov and LTTE. LTTE agreed and Lanka refused. Make your own conclusion.
KV i don't know of any leader who is regarded as a hero to his cause who mass murdered his OWN people and used children in his struggle. there may have been others who did the same thing, but none who are regarded as heroes. we can have a reasonable conversation about the plight of sri lankan tamils if and only if you admit that pirabakaran was a monster. the reason no indian tamils support you is because you refuse to disown him.
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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:56 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:Mandela offered to mediate between Lankan gov and LTTE. LTTE agreed and Lanka refused. Make your own conclusion.
You still don't get the point. You are JUSTIFYING all of Pirabhakaran's crimes. YOu think the whites simply gave independence when Mandela asked? The reason Pirabhakaran was a pig is bcz he escalated the violence recruiting kids and destroying a generation of Tamils.

Once a great Saamiyaar said "Everything can be justified in its own way"

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Post by Kris Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:13 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:
Rishi wrote:KV,

Nelson Mandela took to violent struggle when he had no choice. But then he was ready to negotiate for the sake of a united nation. Don't you think Prabhakaran could have done the same?
You are a naive fellow. A negotiated settlement is possible only if the other side wants a negotiatyed settlemenmt too. Sri Lanka did not.

If LKTTE was the reason for no negotiation, why there is no newgoitiation now. Do you know that the elected chiewf minister of Norther4 Province was not allowded t go anmd see a damaged temple because army said that it is in High Security Zone and he cannot be allowed. If Lankan gov does not trust the chief ministder how can there be any negotiation?

North Province police chief said that he will not take any order from the chief minister but only from Lankan gov.

LTTE did the right thing but failed to achieve its goal.

By the way African apartheid ended not because local resistance but from foreign pressure, South African gov was ready to talk only after US joined the economic sanctions against it. Whenever western govs put prewssure on Lanka, India softened it. When western countries wanted to end some international loan for 2 billion dollars, India said it would loan the money. Lanka has no insentive to talk peace.
>>>Despite all that he endured, Mandela had common sense and understood compromise.  Notice his post-apartheid approach to governance and his erstwhile tormentors. Prabakharan was a megalomaniacal thug who not only would not let moderate forces come up, he actively destroyed his own people. He had no vision, no idea of possibilities. He was a murderer and  a street thug. I cannot fathom this blind devotion you have for him.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:18 pm

>>>, he actively destroyed his own people.


What are you talkjing about? Just because some ignorant people post this and that here it does not become fact. Give authentic references.

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Post by Kris Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:10 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
>>>, he actively destroyed his own people.


What are you talkjing about? Just because some ignorant people post this and that here it does not become fact. Give authentic references.
>>> so he didn't recruit children and use people as shields and kill those he didn't agree with?

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:39 am

Kris wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:
>>>, he actively destroyed his own people.


What are you talkjing about? Just because some ignorant people post this and that here it does not become fact. Give authentic references.
>>> so he didn't recruit children and use people as shields and kill those he didn't agree with?





He never killed any body for disagreeing with him. Dr. Thanjai Nalankilli criticized him in Feb and March 20009 very harshly. I posted it in many places. We are both alive. Case CLOSED

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Post by Kayalvizhi Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:40 am

Kris wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:
>>>, he actively destroyed his own people.


What are you talkjing about? Just because some ignorant people post this and that here it does not become fact. Give authentic references.
>>> so he didn't recruit children and use people as shields and kill those he didn't agree with?





He never killed any body for disagreeing with him. Dr. Thanjai Nalankilli criticized him in Feb and March 20009 very harshly. I posted it in many places. We are both alive. Case CLOSED

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:03 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:He never killed any body for disagreeing with him. Dr. Thanjai Nalankilli criticized him in Feb and March 20009 very harshly. I posted it in many places. We are both alive. Case CLOSED

How come you dont address MAX as Dr. Max?

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Post by Kris Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:43 am

Kayalvizhi wrote:
Kris wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:
>>>, he actively destroyed his own people.


What are you talkjing about? Just because some ignorant people post this and that here it does not become fact. Give authentic references.
>>> so he didn't recruit children and use people as shields and kill those he didn't agree with?





He never killed any body for disagreeing with him. Dr. Thanjai Nalankilli criticized him in Feb and March 20009 very harshly. I posted it in many places. We are both alive. Case CLOSED
>>>Goebbels is alive and well. You are both alive. Therefore, the case is not closed for those who lost their children to this thug's megalomania.  Wonderful logic!

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