Should Indian Women oppose Narendra Modi?

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:43 am

http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:59 am

Why don't they oppose Lord Buddha ? He left his family including a Child.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:06 am

rawemotions wrote:Why don't they oppose Lord Buddha ? He left his family including a Child.

Many Indian women are deeply uncomfortable with how Lord Budha treated his wife.

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:34 am

Rashmun wrote:
rawemotions wrote:Why don't they oppose Lord Buddha ? He left his family including a Child.

Many Indian women are deeply uncomfortable with how Lord Budha treated his wife.

Let us assume for a moment, that you somehow claim to know about Indian women.

If you say women should vote only on this basis,

How is that they are not uncomfortable when Muslim men are allowed four wives and Muslim Personal Law not treat them equally on inheritance matters? Shouldn't that be their priority and they should vote only for those parties which disallow this, rather than focus on Bijli, Sadak, Paani.

How is that they are allow Muslim Society to force the Veil on them, in sweltering Indian sun, and why don't they vote only for those parties which will reform Muslim Society rather than focus on Bijli, Sadak and Paani ?

by Seva Lamberdar Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:37 am

Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

No, Indian women should support Modi in the elections on the condition that after he becomes the prime minister he should implement the UCC which will give the women same rights legally as their male counterparts.

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:41 am

Just for you to know the government has brought in a separate bill under Hindu Law that allows inheritance for Women in Hindu Families. I think this has already been passed.

Because it is for Hindus alone, it has NOT been applied for Muslims. Do not know about Christians/Sikhs etc..

Another Example of the JOKE called Secularism in India.

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:09 am

rawemotions wrote:Just for you to know the government has brought in a separate bill under Hindu Law that allows inheritance for Women in Hindu Families. I think this has already been passed.

Because it is for Hindus alone, it has NOT been applied for Muslims. Do not know about Christians/Sikhs etc..

Another Example of the JOKE called Secularism in India.

and why would a communal party like BJP be worried about the fate of women from other sections? It reminds me of that good old saying nau sau chuhe khake billi haj ko chali.

If BJP was truly a secular party then other parties wouldn't have resorted to these kinds of tactics; they're left with no option but lean towards non-secular workarounds in order to protect minorities.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:11 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

No, Indian women should support Modi in the elections on the condition that after he becomes the prime minister he should implement the UCC which will give the women same rights legally as their male counterparts.

If you think Modi will implement UCC if he becomes PM you are living in fantasy land. It is Modi's interest to keep hindus and Muslims divided, and to deepen the divide as much as he can. This way he will ensure that the Hindu vote is polarized in his favor as has been happening in Gujarat.

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:20 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:Just for you to know the government has brought in a separate bill under Hindu Law that allows inheritance for Women in Hindu Families. I think this has already been passed.

Because it is for Hindus alone, it has NOT been applied for Muslims. Do not know about Christians/Sikhs etc..

Another Example of the JOKE called Secularism in India.
and why would a communal party like BJP be worried about the fate of women from other sections? It reminds me of that good old saying nau sau chuhe khake billi haj ko chali.

If BJP was truly a secular party then other parties wouldn't have resorted to these kinds of tactics; they're left with no option but lean towards non-secular workarounds in order to protect minorities.

It is your and Corrupt Congress which alleges that BJP is communal, to divert attention from that fact that Congress has been winning elections by dividing people on Caste and appeasing Muslims or Christians, and treat them favorably over Hindus. According to me BJP is the ONLY Secular party around, which does not want to treat any one religious community or sub-culture favorably over another.
Proof. UCC is in their manifesto.

ONLY people who are for special treatment and are for appeasing Christians and Muslims are against BJP. I do not understand how that can be justified in a secular country.

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:24 am

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

No, Indian women should support Modi in the elections on the condition that after he becomes the prime minister he should implement the UCC which will give the women same rights legally as their male counterparts.

If you think Modi will implement UCC if he becomes PM you are living in fantasy land. It is Modi's interest to keep hindus and Muslims divided, and to deepen the divide as much as he can. This way he will ensure that the Hindu vote is polarized in his favor as has been happening in Gujarat.

UCC is in their manifesto. Why doesn't Congress promise UCC ? It really proves that they are NOT for secularism. Another Lie has been busted. Congress is the most communal party which treats one religion favorably over another and appeases one religion. In addition they are guilty of divide and rule politics dividing Hindus by favoring one sub-culture (caste) over another to win elections.

Ashrafi Muslim leadership allegedly oppose UCC, and allegedly that is the reason why Congress does not want to put it in their manifesto. Now what happens to the word secularism? Congress forgot all about it a long time ago.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:35 am

rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

No, Indian women should support Modi in the elections on the condition that after he becomes the prime minister he should implement the UCC which will give the women same rights legally as their male counterparts.

If you think Modi will implement UCC if he becomes PM you are living in fantasy land. It is Modi's interest to keep hindus and Muslims divided, and to deepen the divide as much as he can. This way he will ensure that the Hindu vote is polarized in his favor as has been happening in Gujarat.
UCC is in their manifesto. Why doesn't Congress promise UCC ? It really proves that they are NOT for secularism. Another Lie has been busted. Congress is the most communal party which treats one religion favorably over another and appeases one religion. In addition they are guilty of divide and rule politics dividing Hindus by favoring one sub-culture (caste) over another to win elections.

Ashrafi Muslim leadership allegedly oppose UCC, and allegedly that is the reason why Congress does not want to put it in their manifesto. Now what happens to the word secularism? Congress forgot all about it a long time ago.

it was in their manifesto even when Vajpayee was PM for six years. They will keep putting it in their manifesto and not do anything about it if they come to power. Because they wish to keep dividing the hindus and muslims in a manner similar to how the British would play the Divide and Rule game.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:37 am

This Saran female is paranoid. Hindu culture is very open minded and is a religion that accepts other forms of religious worships. Just compare how the minority religions survived and thrived in India and Pakistan since partition. Guha guy and their ilk want us to believe that it's the Nehruvian secularism that did that. Not true. All religious faiths thrived well in India for centuries (in spite of the invasions and all) and that's coz of hinduism.

What's killing it all is the divisive religion-based politics of the Congress and other parties in the name of secularism. Their definition of secularism is the appeasement of the minorities, which is done for their own political gains. This is the one that's keeping the communities divided.

With BJP govt, everyone is going to be treated equally. No special treatment to anyone. This is only fair. What's there to fear about? Communities will be less divided coz of that.

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:40 am

Rashmun wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

No, Indian women should support Modi in the elections on the condition that after he becomes the prime minister he should implement the UCC which will give the women same rights legally as their male counterparts.

If you think Modi will implement UCC if he becomes PM you are living in fantasy land. It is Modi's interest to keep hindus and Muslims divided, and to deepen the divide as much as he can. This way he will ensure that the Hindu vote is polarized in his favor as has been happening in Gujarat.
UCC is in their manifesto. Why doesn't Congress promise UCC ? It really proves that they are NOT for secularism. Another Lie has been busted. Congress is the most communal party which treats one religion favorably over another and appeases one religion. In addition they are guilty of divide and rule politics dividing Hindus by favoring one sub-culture (caste) over another to win elections.

Ashrafi Muslim leadership allegedly oppose UCC, and allegedly that is the reason why Congress does not want to put it in their manifesto. Now what happens to the word secularism? Congress forgot all about it a long time ago.

it was in their manifesto even when Vajpayee was PM for six years. They will keep putting it in their manifesto and not do anything about it if they come to power. Because they wish to keep dividing the hindus and muslims in a manner similar to how the British would play the Divide and Rule game.

You should know your facts before writing. As a part of Governance agenda, the allies explicitly requested BJP to keep the the UCC issue aside. BJP wants all the votes unlike Congress which only wants Muslim and votes of Some Hindu Subcultures by dividing Hindus.

Only MUSLIMS oppose UCC and that is why Congress does not support it. Answer me why Congress does not include UCC in its manifesto. Only an ignorant person would call Congress party secular, despite the absence of this key issues mentioned in our constitution, in their manifesto.

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:42 am

Kinnera wrote:This Saran female is paranoid. Hindu culture is very open minded and is a religion that accepts other forms of religious worships. Just compare how the minority religions survived and thrived in India and Pakistan since partition. Guha guy and their ilk want us to believe that it's the Nehruvian secularism that did that. Not true. All religious faiths thrived well in India for centuries (in spite of the invasions and all) and that's coz of hinduism.

What's killing it all is the divisive religion-based politics of the Congress and other parties in the name of secularism. Their definition of secularism is the appeasement of the minorities, which is done for their own political gains. This is the one that's keeping the communities divided.

With BJP govt, everyone is going to be treated equally. No special treatment to anyone. This is only fair. What's there to fear about? Communities will be less divided coz of that.

M'dam, India was under non-hindu rule for the majority of the last millennium.

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:45 am

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by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:48 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:This Saran female is paranoid. Hindu culture is very open minded and is a religion that accepts other forms of religious worships. Just compare how the minority religions survived and thrived in India and Pakistan since partition. Guha guy and their ilk want us to believe that it's the Nehruvian secularism that did that. Not true. All religious faiths thrived well in India for centuries (in spite of the invasions and all) and that's coz of hinduism.

What's killing it all is the divisive religion-based politics of the Congress and other parties in the name of secularism. Their definition of secularism is the appeasement of the minorities, which is done for their own political gains. This is the one that's keeping the communities divided.

With BJP govt, everyone is going to be treated equally. No special treatment to anyone. This is only fair. What's there to fear about? Communities will be less divided coz of that.
M'dam, India was under non-hindu rule for the majority of the last millennium.

Sir, the majority of the population is hindu. The rulers couldn't do anything in spite of their brutality. Despite that, hinduism survived in india and it let other religions thrive too. Live and let live! Show me a muslim majority country where other religions thrived.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:48 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:This Saran female is paranoid. Hindu culture is very open minded and is a religion that accepts other forms of religious worships. Just compare how the minority religions survived and thrived in India and Pakistan since partition. Guha guy and their ilk want us to believe that it's the Nehruvian secularism that did that. Not true. All religious faiths thrived well in India for centuries (in spite of the invasions and all) and that's coz of hinduism.

What's killing it all is the divisive religion-based politics of the Congress and other parties in the name of secularism. Their definition of secularism is the appeasement of the minorities, which is done for their own political gains. This is the one that's keeping the communities divided.

With BJP govt, everyone is going to be treated equally. No special treatment to anyone. This is only fair. What's there to fear about? Communities will be less divided coz of that.
M'dam, India was under non-hindu rule for the majority of the last millennium.

Let us also remind that the non-Hindus were a miniscule minority. So you are ok with minority rule - as logn as it is the muslims who rule the country and the majority population.

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:49 am

rawemotions wrote:That is the reason we had forced conversions and 500 Million Muslims (combined Muslim population of undivided India) to thank for that. 330 Million of them could not live together peacefully with others like the Hindus and then separated.

ONLY an Ignorant person would ignore this and write a reply like that.

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?

by rawemotions Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:50 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:This Saran female is paranoid. Hindu culture is very open minded and is a religion that accepts other forms of religious worships. Just compare how the minority religions survived and thrived in India and Pakistan since partition. Guha guy and their ilk want us to believe that it's the Nehruvian secularism that did that. Not true. All religious faiths thrived well in India for centuries (in spite of the invasions and all) and that's coz of hinduism.

What's killing it all is the divisive religion-based politics of the Congress and other parties in the name of secularism. Their definition of secularism is the appeasement of the minorities, which is done for their own political gains. This is the one that's keeping the communities divided.

With BJP govt, everyone is going to be treated equally. No special treatment to anyone. This is only fair. What's there to fear about? Communities will be less divided coz of that.
M'dam, India was under non-hindu rule for the majority of the last millennium.

That is the reason we had forced conversions and 500 Million Muslims (combined Muslim population of undivided India) to thank for that. 330 Million of them could not live together peacefully with others like the Hindus and then separated.

And we have the Portuguese Inquisitions in Goa.

Only an Ignorant person would write a reply like that.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:52 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:That is the reason we had forced conversions and 500 Million Muslims (combined Muslim population of undivided India) to thank for that. 330 Million of them could not live together peacefully with others like the Hindus and then separated.

ONLY an Ignorant person would ignore this and write a reply like that.

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?

What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:53 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:This Saran female is paranoid. Hindu culture is very open minded and is a religion that accepts other forms of religious worships. Just compare how the minority religions survived and thrived in India and Pakistan since partition. Guha guy and their ilk want us to believe that it's the Nehruvian secularism that did that. Not true. All religious faiths thrived well in India for centuries (in spite of the invasions and all) and that's coz of hinduism.

What's killing it all is the divisive religion-based politics of the Congress and other parties in the name of secularism. Their definition of secularism is the appeasement of the minorities, which is done for their own political gains. This is the one that's keeping the communities divided.

With BJP govt, everyone is going to be treated equally. No special treatment to anyone. This is only fair. What's there to fear about? Communities will be less divided coz of that.
M'dam, India was under non-hindu rule for the majority of the last millennium.

Let us also remind that the non-Hindus were a miniscule minority. So you are ok with minority rule - as logn as it is the muslims who rule the country and the majority population.

Our forefathers had no choice, they'all had been through it and survived.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:03 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:This Saran female is paranoid. Hindu culture is very open minded and is a religion that accepts other forms of religious worships. Just compare how the minority religions survived and thrived in India and Pakistan since partition. Guha guy and their ilk want us to believe that it's the Nehruvian secularism that did that. Not true. All religious faiths thrived well in India for centuries (in spite of the invasions and all) and that's coz of hinduism.

What's killing it all is the divisive religion-based politics of the Congress and other parties in the name of secularism. Their definition of secularism is the appeasement of the minorities, which is done for their own political gains. This is the one that's keeping the communities divided.

With BJP govt, everyone is going to be treated equally. No special treatment to anyone. This is only fair. What's there to fear about? Communities will be less divided coz of that.
M'dam, India was under non-hindu rule for the majority of the last millennium.

Let us also remind that the non-Hindus were a miniscule minority. So you are ok with minority rule - as logn as it is the muslims who rule the country and the majority population.
Our forefathers had no choice, they'all had been through it and survived.

Ya, they survived against all odds, while keeping their culture and religion intact. There's something about that religion and culture to have survived for so many centuries against all odds. Right? And what is it? It's the 'live and let live' policy, it's their acceptance of other faiths. They followed that while they survived. so yeah, there's not need to be paranoid about the hindu culture.

PS: I am not using the word 'tolerance' here. Tolerance is when you don't agree with something, but still put up with it. Acceptance is when you have no opposition to the other faith. You just let them be, wholeheartedly.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:04 pm

Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:That is the reason we had forced conversions and 500 Million Muslims (combined Muslim population of undivided India) to thank for that. 330 Million of them could not live together peacefully with others like the Hindus and then separated.

ONLY an Ignorant person would ignore this and write a reply like that.

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:05 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

No, Indian women should support Modi in the elections on the condition that after he becomes the prime minister he should implement the UCC which will give the women same rights legally as their male counterparts.

I thought UCC in BJP's dictionary stands for Universal Communals Congregation.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:06 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:That is the reason we had forced conversions and 500 Million Muslims (combined Muslim population of undivided India) to thank for that. 330 Million of them could not live together peacefully with others like the Hindus and then separated.

ONLY an Ignorant person would ignore this and write a reply like that.

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece

What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:08 pm

Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:That is the reason we had forced conversions and 500 Million Muslims (combined Muslim population of undivided India) to thank for that. 330 Million of them could not live together peacefully with others like the Hindus and then separated.

ONLY an Ignorant person would ignore this and write a reply like that.

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?

they immigrated to india in search of better opportunities or because they were not feeling safe or else they converted to islam and remained in Pak. Pak is not a secular country; India is.

by pravalika nanda Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:15 pm

Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

no, they should propose to narendra modi. he works hard and is available. oh wait, so am i. giggle.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:16 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?

they immigrated to india in search of better opportunities or because they were not feeling safe or else they converted to islam and remained in Pak. Pak is not a secular country; India is.

so yeah, which means hindus didn't have the same opportunities as muslims and they didn't feel safe at all as hindus in Pakistan. So the poor things had to convert to islam for survival or immigrate elsewhere. What does that say?

btw, it's not the secularism that did it in India. It's Hinduism. It did so for centuries. Other religions didn't suddenly start thriving only since independence.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:16 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html
no, they should propose to narendra modi. he works hard and is available. oh wait, so am i. giggle.

Should Indian Women oppose Narendra Modi? Jashodaben-pti-360

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:18 pm

Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?

they immigrated to india in search of better opportunities or because they were not feeling safe or else they converted to islam and remained in Pak. Pak is not a secular country; India is.
so yeah, which means hindus didn't have the same opportunities as muslims and they didn't feel safe at all as hindus in Pakistan. So the poor things had to convert to islam for survival or immigrate elsewhere. What does that say?

btw, it's not the secularism that did it in India. It's Hinduism. It did so for centuries. Other religions didn't start thriving only since independence.

there was a strong movement by hindu fanatics to make India a theological Hindu state a la Pakistan or Iran. Nehru (and others) put his foot down and ensured that India remained a secular state. If India would have become a theological Hindu state, like the Hindu fanatics wanted, we would have ended up becoming another banana republic like Pakistan.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:26 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?

they immigrated to india in search of better opportunities or because they were not feeling safe or else they converted to islam and remained in Pak. Pak is not a secular country; India is.
so yeah, which means hindus didn't have the same opportunities as muslims and they didn't feel safe at all as hindus in Pakistan. So the poor things had to convert to islam for survival or immigrate elsewhere. What does that say?

btw, it's not the secularism that did it in India. It's Hinduism. It did so for centuries. Other religions didn't start thriving only since independence.

there was a strong movement by hindu fanatics to make India a theological Hindu state a la Pakistan or Iran. Nehru (and others) put his foot down and ensured that India remained a secular state. If India would have become a theological Hindu state, like the Hindu fanatics wanted, we would have ended up becoming another banana republic like Pakistan.

Hinduism can never be compared to islam. islam beleives only in their religion and won't allow other religions to thrive. Hinduim is so different in its philosophy. India could've nvr become another pakistan even in a million years even if it were a hindu theological state. In fact, it would've done better than the divide and rule policy of the congress. The congress and the 'secularists' want to instill the kind of paranoia that you and others are showing so that they can continue with their divide and rule policy forever.

by pravalika nanda Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:26 pm

Rashmun wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html
no, they should propose to narendra modi. he works hard and is available. oh wait, so am i. giggle.

ye kaun hai? yashoben?

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:28 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html
no, they should propose to narendra modi. he works hard and is available. oh wait, so am i. giggle.

ye kaun hai? yashoben?

yes.

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:32 pm

Yashodaben is a good looking woman.

by pravalika nanda Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:38 pm

Rashmun wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html
no, they should propose to narendra modi. he works hard and is available. oh wait, so am i. giggle.

ye kaun hai? yashoben?

yes.

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by pravalika nanda Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:38 pm

i cannot compete with yashodaben. i have to wait for some 30 more years before she croaks off.

by pravalika nanda Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:42 pm

Kinnera wrote:Yashodaben is a good looking woman.

LOL. are you frikkin serious!!

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:47 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
Kinnera wrote:Yashodaben is a good looking woman.
LOL. are you frikkin serious!!

Of course I am a serious! What's there to joke? The woman is 60+, but looks so good. I will be happy if i look half as good and healthy as her in my 60s.

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:15 pm

Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:That is the reason we had forced conversions and 500 Million Muslims (combined Muslim population of undivided India) to thank for that. 330 Million of them could not live together peacefully with others like the Hindus and then separated.

ONLY an Ignorant person would ignore this and write a reply like that.

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?

Let's not go overboard with giving ourselves a pat on the back. First of all, it's not a +ve sign if one looks up to Pakistan as a rolemodel to prove that BJP is secular, that in itself explains it. Secondly, Buddhism, once thriving in India, met the same fate as Hinduism in Pakistan. Finally, Hinduism has not always been as peaceful as one like us to believe it to be, a lot of blood was shed be it's in-fights between different sects or intolerance towards other religions like Jainism, Buddhism or for that matter look at the modus operandi of present day's BJP or the frequency of attacks on lower caste Hindus. There's not even a modicum of truth in statements such as Hinduism is THE peace mongering religion and adheres to live and let live philosophy; it's nothing but baloney propagated by right-wing nationalists to cover-up their aggression. I know a bunch of you will come at me cranking up usual rhetoric like how many were killed in the terrorist attacks committed by right-wing Hindu groups etc., but it's all relative, right? the crux of the matter is whether or not the intent harm minorities with malice displayed.

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:24 pm

Kinnera wrote:
Hinduism can never be compared to islam. islam beleives only in their religion and won't allow other religions to thrive. Hinduim is so different in its philosophy. India could've nvr become another pakistan even in a million years even if it were a hindu theological state. In fact, it would've done better than the divide and rule policy of the congress. The congress and the 'secularists' want to instill the kind of paranoia that you and others are showing so that they can continue with their divide and rule policy forever.

LOL do you know who suffers from persistent nightmares about Islamization of India? You don't have to go much farther than reading posts made by certain SuCHers to get it; paranoia and Hindu nationalists are synonymous

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:44 pm

Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html

You wish!

Looks like you lost touch with NI women. Just go to the average BIMARU household and see how many women celebrate "karva chaut". That will give you a better prediction of how many women will vote for Modi. The success of BJP depends on how many BIMARUs vote for them.

Even among the educated youth, you will not find many who will support Kapil Sibel's attitude towards Modi's marital issue after reading about Jashodaben.

I wonder if Muslims will find the new information on Modi's marriage interesting. May be, Muslim women will find Jasodaben admirable and vote for Modi. Kapil Sibel may be cursing his wife for not having as much devotion towards him as Modi's wife has for him.

Apparently, Arun Jaitley let out a nuclear missile that will scare the hell out of CONmen like Anand Sharma - Arun wants to know how many CONmen have illicit relationships. I am sure, he can provide vivid videos like that of lover boy Abhishek Manu Singhvi for the TV channels. He may even have the video clip of MT and Madhavrao near the IIT Delhi campus.

May be your friends like Shoma (with Tejpal) and Tits Sheetalwad (and her ISI husband Javed) will vote against Modi.

by Propagandhi711 Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:58 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html
You wish!

Looks like you lost touch with NI women. Just go to the average BIMARU household and see how many women celebrate "karva chaut". That will give you a better prediction of how many women will vote for Modi. The success of BJP depends on how many BIMARUs vote for them.

Even among the educated youth, you will not find many who will support Kapil Sibel's attitude towards Modi's marital issue after reading about Jashodaben.

I wonder if Muslims will find the new information on Modi's marriage interesting. May be, Muslim women will find Jasodaben admirable and vote for Modi. Kapil Sibel may be cursing his wife for not having as much devotion towards him as Modi's wife has for him.

Apparently, Arun Jaitley let out a nuclear missile that will scare the hell out of CONmen like Anand Sharma - Arun wants to know how many CONmen have illicit relationships. I am sure, he can provide vivid videos like that of lover boy Abhishek Manu Singhvi for the TV channels. He may even have the video clip of MT and Madhavrao near the IIT Delhi campus.

May be your friends like Shoma (with Tejpal) and Tits Sheetalwad (and her ISI husband Javed) will vote against Modi.

tits sheetalwad hahahahahahaaaaa

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:19 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html
You wish!

Looks like you lost touch with NI women. Just go to the average BIMARU household and see how many women celebrate "karva chaut". That will give you a better prediction of how many women will vote for Modi. The success of BJP depends on how many BIMARUs vote for them.

Even among the educated youth, you will not find many who will support Kapil Sibel's attitude towards Modi's marital issue after reading about Jashodaben.

I wonder if Muslims will find the new information on Modi's marriage interesting. May be, Muslim women will find Jasodaben admirable and vote for Modi. Kapil Sibel may be cursing his wife for not having as much devotion towards him as Modi's wife has for him.

Apparently, Arun Jaitley let out a nuclear missile that will scare the hell out of CONmen like Anand Sharma - Arun wants to know how many CONmen have illicit relationships. I am sure, he can provide vivid videos like that of lover boy Abhishek Manu Singhvi for the TV channels. He may even have the video clip of MT and Madhavrao near the IIT Delhi campus.

May be your friends like Shoma (with Tejpal) and Tits Sheetalwad (and her ISI husband Javed) will vote against Modi.

tits sheetalwad hahahahahahaaaaa

Here is the blog by Arun Jaitley:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/many-senior-congressmen-have-illicit-relationships-arun-jaitley/464546-3.html

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:34 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Rashmun wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/mitali-saran-mr-modi-s-men-114041101290_1.html
You wish!

Looks like you lost touch with NI women. Just go to the average BIMARU household and see how many women celebrate "karva chaut". That will give you a better prediction of how many women will vote for Modi. The success of BJP depends on how many BIMARUs vote for them.

Even among the educated youth, you will not find many who will support Kapil Sibel's attitude towards Modi's marital issue after reading about Jashodaben.

I wonder if Muslims will find the new information on Modi's marriage interesting. May be, Muslim women will find Jasodaben admirable and vote for Modi. Kapil Sibel may be cursing his wife for not having as much devotion towards him as Modi's wife has for him.

Apparently, Arun Jaitley let out a nuclear missile that will scare the hell out of CONmen like Anand Sharma - Arun wants to know how many CONmen have illicit relationships. I am sure, he can provide vivid videos like that of lover boy Abhishek Manu Singhvi for the TV channels. He may even have the video clip of MT and Madhavrao near the IIT Delhi campus.

May be your friends like Shoma (with Tejpal) and Tits Sheetalwad (and her ISI husband Javed) will vote against Modi.

tits sheetalwad hahahahahahaaaaa
Here is the blog by Arun Jaitley:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/many-senior-congressmen-have-illicit-relationships-arun-jaitley/464546-3.html

Jaitley forgets that even many BJP leaders have been accused of having illicit relationships. This includes Narendra Modi, Vajpayee, Pramod Mahajan, and many others. Time magazine referred to Vajpayee's mistress--Mrs Kaul--as his "companion".

Is Jaitley suggesting that the status of a wife is comparable to the status of a mistress or concubine?

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:04 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?
Let's not go overboard with giving ourselves a pat on the back. First of all, it's not a +ve sign if one looks up to Pakistan as a rolemodel to prove that BJP is secular, that in itself explains it. Secondly, Buddhism, once thriving in India, met the same fate as Hinduism in Pakistan. Finally, Hinduism has not always been as peaceful as one like us to believe it to be, a lot of blood was shed be it's in-fights between different sects or intolerance towards other religions like Jainism, Buddhism or for that matter look at the modus operandi of present day's BJP or the frequency of attacks on lower caste Hindus. There's not even a modicum of truth in statements such as Hinduism is THE peace mongering religion and adheres to live and let live philosophy; it's nothing but baloney propagated by right-wing nationalists to cover-up their aggression. I know a bunch of you will come at me cranking up usual rhetoric like how many were killed in the terrorist attacks committed by right-wing Hindu groups etc., but it's all relative, right? the crux of the matter is whether or not the intent harm minorities with malice displayed.

Wow! So much hatred and negativity for Hinduism? I am shocked! What's wrong with the religion/philosophy which mistreats its minorities in its majority countries and can't get along with the majority in the countries where they are a minority, however well they are treated? You have the same problem with the US too.

Anyway, I don't want to continue with this conversation. I'm disgusted! Adios!

by Kris Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:09 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:

What was the population of undivided India under Britishraj or when they took over?
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?
Let's not go overboard with giving ourselves a pat on the back. First of all, it's not a +ve sign if one looks up to Pakistan as a rolemodel to prove that BJP is secular, that in itself explains it. Secondly, Buddhism, once thriving in India, met the same fate as Hinduism in Pakistan. Finally, Hinduism has not always been as peaceful as one like us to believe it to be, a lot of blood was shed be it's in-fights between different sects or intolerance towards other religions like Jainism, Buddhism or for that matter look at the modus operandi of present day's BJP or the frequency of attacks on lower caste Hindus. There's not even a modicum of truth in statements such as Hinduism is THE peace mongering religion and adheres to live and let live philosophy; it's nothing but baloney propagated by right-wing nationalists to cover-up their aggression. I know a bunch of you will come at me cranking up usual rhetoric like how many were killed in the terrorist attacks committed by right-wing Hindu groups etc., but it's all relative, right? the crux of the matter is whether or not the intent harm minorities with malice displayed.

>>>Why is it relative? Why can it not be a measure of which cultural background is more prone to terrorism?

by Guest Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:12 pm

Kris wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
What was the percent of population of muslims in India and the percent of population of Hindus in Pakistan soon after the partition? What are their percentages now? That says a lot.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?
Let's not go overboard with giving ourselves a pat on the back. First of all, it's not a +ve sign if one looks up to Pakistan as a rolemodel to prove that BJP is secular, that in itself explains it. Secondly, Buddhism, once thriving in India, met the same fate as Hinduism in Pakistan. Finally, Hinduism has not always been as peaceful as one like us to believe it to be, a lot of blood was shed be it's in-fights between different sects or intolerance towards other religions like Jainism, Buddhism or for that matter look at the modus operandi of present day's BJP or the frequency of attacks on lower caste Hindus. There's not even a modicum of truth in statements such as Hinduism is THE peace mongering religion and adheres to live and let live philosophy; it's nothing but baloney propagated by right-wing nationalists to cover-up their aggression. I know a bunch of you will come at me cranking up usual rhetoric like how many were killed in the terrorist attacks committed by right-wing Hindu groups etc., but it's all relative, right? the crux of the matter is whether or not the intent harm minorities with malice displayed.
>>>Why is it relative? Why can it not be a measure of which cultural background is more prone to terrorism?

i have heard some (caucasian) christians say that there was a time when muslims were more liberal than christians and that they became more fundamentalist/orthodox/rigid after the Crusades. Furthermore, even within Islam of today there exist liberal sects like sufism.

by Kris Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:38 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Kris wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/hum-do-hamare-do-concept-catching-up-among-muslims/article4414697.ece
What is the reason for the hindu minority numbers to have dwindled significantly in Pakistan? Is it the 'hum do-humara ek bhi nahi' policy?
Let's not go overboard with giving ourselves a pat on the back. First of all, it's not a +ve sign if one looks up to Pakistan as a rolemodel to prove that BJP is secular, that in itself explains it. Secondly, Buddhism, once thriving in India, met the same fate as Hinduism in Pakistan. Finally, Hinduism has not always been as peaceful as one like us to believe it to be, a lot of blood was shed be it's in-fights between different sects or intolerance towards other religions like Jainism, Buddhism or for that matter look at the modus operandi of present day's BJP or the frequency of attacks on lower caste Hindus. There's not even a modicum of truth in statements such as Hinduism is THE peace mongering religion and adheres to live and let live philosophy; it's nothing but baloney propagated by right-wing nationalists to cover-up their aggression. I know a bunch of you will come at me cranking up usual rhetoric like how many were killed in the terrorist attacks committed by right-wing Hindu groups etc., but it's all relative, right? the crux of the matter is whether or not the intent harm minorities with malice displayed.
>>>Why is it relative? Why can it not be a measure of which cultural background is more prone to terrorism?

i have heard some (caucasian) christians say that there was a time when muslims were more liberal than christians and that they became more fundamentalist/orthodox/rigid after the Crusades. Furthermore, even within Islam of today there exist liberal sects like sufism.

>>>There is no doubt that Christianity has not been the most pristine on this count. While it is still not perfect, the pursuit of science (read, rational thinking) has tempered the West's world-view significantly. It is not all nobility of course. There has been a tendency toward pragmatism driven by commerce/self-interest. India has been lucky in Hinduism due to dogma not gaining a central place in it. For every fundamentalist, there will be two or three who will oppose him and none of them can be ex-communicated. This may be happenstance and not by design, since the religion grew organically, but it is still a positive. Islam's sects such as the Sufis that you refer to don't have center stage in any Islamic society. There are groups like Ahmadiyas and Ba'hais who are treated on a par with "non-believers". The Islamic world which once was the forerunner on scientific learning turned inward along time ago. My main point is if there is going to be an honest discussion, we need to stop conjuring up moral equivalences.

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:21 pm

Kris wrote:
>>>Why is it relative? Why can it not be a measure of which cultural background is more prone to terrorism?

Scratch that, Hindu atrocities are far worst than I thought. Crimes against SCs have doubled since the '80s and increased by 20% 2011 from 2010.
http://ncrb.nic.in/CD-CII2011/cii-2011/Chapter%207.pdf

Should Indian Women oppose Narendra Modi? Sc_att10

Should Indian Women oppose Narendra Modi? Sc_att10

by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:30 pm

Kinnera wrote:

Wow! So much hatred and negativity for Hinduism? I am shocked! What's wrong with the religion/philosophy which mistreats its minorities in its majority countries and can't get along with the majority in the countries where they are a minority, however well they are treated? You have the same problem with the US too.

Anyway, I don't want to continue with this conversation. I'm disgusted! Adios!

I'm sorry you're so disgusted with your own religion. It's not my fault, Uppili asked me to be objective and I gave it a try and it didn't seem to go that well. Next time, I'm taking no advice from him.

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