Saeed Naqvi: Will there be a surprise end to Narendra Modi's tale?

Rashmun wrote:If Modi were interested in an enlarged NDA, he would not have burnt (or weakened) his bridges with Mamata Bannerjee, Jayalalithaa, Mayawati or Naveen Patnaik. But Murli Manohar Joshi has turned up in Nagpur to advance the interests of the BJP, in the event of Modi’s electoral eclipse. This signals a power struggle.

if BJP is in a position to form the govt with post-poll allies, but the allies insist on not having Modi as PM then who will the RSS select for the top job? Naqvi seems to suggest it might be Murli Manohar Joshi.

Rashmun wrote:

Rashmun wrote:If Modi were interested in an enlarged NDA, he would not have burnt (or weakened) his bridges with Mamata Bannerjee, Jayalalithaa, Mayawati or Naveen Patnaik. But Murli Manohar Joshi has turned up in Nagpur to advance the interests of the BJP, in the event of Modi’s electoral eclipse. This signals a power struggle.

if BJP is in a position to form the govt with post-poll allies, but the allies insist on not having Modi as PM then who will the RSS select for the top job? Naqvi seems to suggest it might be Murli Manohar Joshi.

In February, I spoke by phone with Vasant Limaye, a Pune-based corporate trainer and Marathi novelist. Limaye said he met Bhagwat at the RSS headquarters in Nagpur last year around Dussehra, while he was doing research for a new political thriller. Bhagwat told him about the BJP’s and RSS’s preparations for the upcoming elections, and said that the BJP and Modi were the right people to lead the country. Limaye asked him if he considered Modi to be a Winston Churchill. “What I meant was Churchill was the wartime British PM and was unceremoniously dumped after the war was over,” Limaye told me. “Bhagwat didn’t answer that question. He just smiled.”

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The real rulers of the BJP are the RSS. If the BJP comes to power, the real rulers of India will be the RSS. They will wield veto power on almost every decision taken by the BJP govt.

Rashmun wrote:
The real rulers of the BJP are the RSS. If the BJP comes to power, the real rulers of India will be the RSS. They will wield veto power on almost every decision taken by the BJP govt.

smArtha wrote:

Rashmun wrote:
The real rulers of the BJP are the RSS. If the BJP comes to power, the real rulers of India will be the RSS. They will wield veto power on almost every decision taken by the BJP govt.

It still is a rule of India by Indians instead of the Italian Mafia and the Catholic Church. So many orders of magnitude better.

Rashmun wrote:
The RSS belongs to the lunatic fringe. To illustrate this point, consider the fact that their ideological Godfather Guruji Golwalkar praises how jews were treated in Nazi Germany and writes that minorities in India, like the muslims and christians, should be treated in a similar manner.

smArtha wrote:

Rashmun wrote:
The RSS belongs to the lunatic fringe. To illustrate this point, consider the fact that their ideological Godfather Guruji Golwalkar praises how jews were treated in Nazi Germany and writes that minorities in India, like the muslims and christians, should be treated in a similar manner.

Let's first get the treatment of 80% right instead of being ruled by Dawood reps, Al Queda reps, Italian mafias and the Catholic evangelists. India can then embrace and make it better for the other 20% in due course.

Rashmun wrote:
you forget that in Kashmir, hindus are in a minority. if you want Kashmir to remain a part of India you have no choice but to insist that minorities in India have to be treated with respect.

smArtha wrote:

Rashmun wrote:
you forget that in Kashmir, hindus are in a minority. if you want Kashmir to remain a part of India you have no choice but to insist that minorities in India have to be treated with respect.

That is a valid concern if you are sold on the fears peddled by the Dynasty scholars. If treating with respect means offering exclusive privileges, then such Muslims are better off immigrating to countries where they can negotiate that.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Rashmun:  You and CONmen misunderstand democracy. Not just the majority but also the minorities should follow what is in the best interest of the country. If the majority or the minority misbehaves, the administration has to take corrective measures. If you insist that the minorities can behave anyway they like and the majority has to always walk a tight rope and be humiliated, you are following sikular and even fukular nonsensical-democracy. CONwallahs are realizing that in this election. Even the petted minorities are thinking twice before voting for CONmen. Modi has just illustrated how frustrated CONmen can get if other political parties show that they can play the same communal game that CONs play (Modi telling everyone that he is OBC) for votes.

The threat you posed re. Kashmir can't be executed by monomaniacs without paying a very heavy price. They are smarter than that. They may try and extract more benefits using that as a weapon. However, that will only work for some time. Once India and PakiSatan sign a final border agreement, the monomania in the valley will subside. The Pundits will start returning. Remember that the majority of Muslims in Kashmir are Shiia. Once the border issue is settled, they will identify Paki sunni as the real enemy.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:"paki muslim are of the opinion that partition was a huge mistake and it would be best if reunification of india and pak takes place. your comments?"

My father used to have the old India map behind his desk in his office and his den at home. He was opposed to partition.

I don't think reunification is in India's interest.

Rashmun wrote:

smArtha wrote:

Rashmun wrote:
you forget that in Kashmir, hindus are in a minority. if you want Kashmir to remain a part of India you have no choice but to insist that minorities in India have to be treated with respect.

That is a valid concern if you are sold on the fears peddled by the Dynasty scholars. If treating with respect means offering exclusive privileges, then such Muslims are better off immigrating to countries where they can negotiate that.

there can be no greater exclusive privilege than caste based reservations to dalits and OBC's in govt jobs and govt educational institutions. high caste hindu youth are feeling angry and frustrated that 50% of seats in govt jobs as well as govt educational insititutes are reserved for lower caste hindus.