Islamic jihad never rests: 84 children killed in pakistan

by truthbetold Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:52 am

While residents jehadi apologists are whining about christmas celebration in India, the jehadis continued their sacred duty of killing innocent people.

Would the apologists argue that jehadis are only a small group of pakistanis?

Would the apologists say that US drone attacks inspired these jehadis?

Would they come out with koranic verses against killing innocents?

Would they ever own up to barbaric nature of medieval islamic thought dominating pakistan and other islamic cultures?

would they admit to the error of jehadi apologist way of thinking?

would they find a minor escape clause in news item?

would they just divert the issue calling others names?

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:53 am

Pls rework you essay. You forgot to include the word "awakening" anywhere. Also, where is the call for moderate Muslims to stop the terrorists??

by truthbetold Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:58 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:Pls rework you essay. You forgot to include the word "awakening" anywhere. Also, where is the call for moderate Muslims to stop the terrorists??

Why don't you send it to them if you know some? You certainly do not qualify as one.

by Hellsangel Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:15 am

This is more a case of the chickens coming home to roost. Indira Gandhi experienced this with the Khalistani terrorists. The Pakistani government is experiencing it with the Taliban.

by Propagandhi711 Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:09 am

18-24 yrs old isn't "children" but regardless they as a civilization got to learn the true cost of not moving forward with rest of humanity...fuck'em.

by indophile Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:33 am

It's 126 that got killed per CNN. Most are children in the 12-16 age range.
I wonder why the jehadi idiots are so worried about kids getting educated when education doesn't seem to have any effect on their folks as evidenced by some recent news stories.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:37 am

truthbetold wrote:While residents jehadi apologists are whining about christmas celebration in India, the jehadis continued their sacred duty of killing innocent people.

Would the apologists argue that jehadis are only a small group of pakistanis?

Would the apologists say that US drone attacks inspired these jehadis?

Would they come out with koranic verses against killing innocents?

Would they ever own up to barbaric nature of medieval islamic thought dominating pakistan and other islamic cultures?

would they admit to the error of jehadi apologist way of thinking?

would they find a minor escape clause in news item?

would they just divert the issue calling others names?

It is sad and tragic that this terror act targeted innocent people, especially school children. I strongly condemn this dastardly act and no effort should be spared in bringing the culprits to justice.

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by confuzzled dude Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:52 am

Pakistan has become a shithole, one couldn't find a reason as to why this happens in that country, but again that is the case with many former and present allies of the US, weren't the Taliban leaders touted as freedom fighters by one of the U.S. presidents. I guess this is what happens when you give life to a dead lion (as in that panchatantra story).
In any case why are we mourning? Isn't this a better evil to deal than the commie Russia which would have usurped the whole world at one fell swoop. We should be happy that we're in a good position & the world is a much safer place because of visionaries like Reagan

by Hellsangel Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:57 am

confuzzled dude wrote:Pakistan has become a shithole, one couldn't find a reason as to why this happens in that country, but again that is the case with many former and present allies of the US, weren't the Taliban leaders touted as freedom fighters by one of the U.S. presidents. I guess this is what happens when you give life to a dead lion (as in that panchatantra story).
In any case why are we mourning? Isn't this a better evil to deal than the commie Russia which would have usurped the whole world at one fell swoop. We should be happy that we're in a good position & the world is a much safer place because of visionaries like Reagan

Such as UK? France? (Former) West Germany? Any other Western European nation? South Korea? Turkey?

by truthbetold Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:58 pm

Ha
Add Jordan to that list.

by truthbetold Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:10 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:Pakistan has become a shithole, one couldn't find a reason as to why this happens in that country,

Really cd. You may be lone exception in the educated world.
Pakistan's people failed to isolate Taliban after malala murder attempt. Now after another 141 children's lives, would there be an effective reaction ? Instead of Taliban being afraid it is challenging pak govt. instead of running for cover, Taliban is laughing at pak people and security establishment.

You refuse to admit like Taliban that the problem is Islamic culture and medieval thinking .
Lot more blood will flow before you will be forced to agree.

by SomeProfile Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:26 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:Pakistan has become a shithole, one couldn't find a reason as to why this happens in that country

One couldn't find a reason as to why you are such fucking idiot asshole. tearing hair out

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one!

Your sheer assholery is matched by a couple of other people from across the border:

1. Pakis online who are claiming this is a plot by Hindus / Indians / RAW.

2. Paki politicians described in this tweet:

I asked a senior Pakistani journalist why no Pakistani leader has named and shamed Taliban. He said "We have no evidence it was TTP".

by confuzzled dude Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:56 pm

truthbetold wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Pakistan has become a shithole, one couldn't find a reason as to why this happens in that country,
Really cd. You may be lone exception in the educated world.
Pakistan's people failed to isolate Taliban after malala murder attempt. Now after another 141 children's lives, would there be an effective reaction ? Instead of Taliban being afraid it is challenging pak govt. instead of running for cover, Taliban is laughing at pak people and security establishment.

You refuse to admit like Taliban that the problem is Islamic culture and medieval thinking .
Lot more blood will flow before you will be forced to agree.

Bwah! What an earth shattering discovery. Did you miss the rest of my post? I never had any regard for that stupid country founded on the basis of religion. Look what's happening now they are killing each other in the name of same religion. You can blame it on the religion if you want to but any sane person would readily acknowledge that it is self-inflicted & self created hell. They can only blame themselves but nobody. If you don't know ,the same Islam is producing different results in Indonesia , Jordan and in many other countries, wonder why?

by Hellsangel Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:21 pm

The school was run by the military and most children there were children of military personnel.
TTP was really trying to hurt the military in its gut.

https://twitter.com/satishacharya/status/544864506649014272/photo/1

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:39 pm

On behalf of our extremely brilliant Sikular SuCh scholars, I STRONGLY object to this criticism of the pieceful activity in Mani Shankar Aiyer's friendly nation. To maintain Sikular objectivity, you have to first criticize BJP, RSS, Chaddi, Diwali, Sanskrit and Gita.

by Guest Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:47 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:Pakistan has become a shithole, one couldn't find a reason as to why this happens in that country, but again that is the case with many former and present allies of the US, weren't the Taliban leaders touted as freedom fighters by one of the U.S. presidents. I guess this is what happens when you give life to a dead lion (as in that panchatantra story).
In any case why are we mourning? Isn't this a better evil to deal than the commie Russia which would have usurped the whole world at one fell swoop. We should be happy that we're in a good position & the world is a much safer place because of visionaries like Reagan

US has been pumping billions of its tax payers' money to Pakistan for several years to curb the Taliban and other terrorist organizations. But no, Paki takes the dollars, hoodwinks the US, but does nothing. Taliban has become its national asset. Why would it kill its golden goose? Now it's paying its price. A very costly price! You can't blame the US for it.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:46 pm

Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Pakistan has become a shithole, one couldn't find a reason as to why this happens in that country, but again that is the case with many former and present allies of the US, weren't the Taliban leaders touted as freedom fighters by one of the U.S. presidents. I guess this is what happens when you give life to a dead lion (as in that panchatantra story).
In any case why are we mourning? Isn't this a better evil to deal than the commie Russia which would have usurped the whole world at one fell swoop. We should be happy that we're in a good position & the world is a much safer place because of visionaries like Reagan
US has been pumping billions of its tax payers' money to Pakistan for several years to curb the Taliban and other terrorist organizations. But no, Paki takes the dollars, hoodwinks the US, but does nothing. Taliban has become its national asset. Why would it kill its golden goose? Now it's paying its price. A very costly price! You can't blame the US for it.

Bwahaha..Kinny, the US pays Pak billions just to allow access for their supply convoys to Afganistan. They care two hoots for what the generals do with the money.

Just to jog your very selective memory, the US paid Pak many more billions in the 80s to train and arm the fighters in Afghanistan who then morphed into the Taliban a decade later. So the terrorists may have been lovingly nurtured by the Pakis over the years, but the checks have always been signed by Uncle Sam. And as they like to self-righteously say of others, those who fund terror are no less guilty than the terrorists themselves.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:54 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:On behalf of our extremely brilliant Sikular SuCh scholars, I STRONGLY object to this criticism of the pieceful activity in Mani Shankar Aiyer's friendly nation. To maintain Sikular objectivity, you have to first criticize BJP, RSS, Chaddi, Diwali, Sanskrit and Gita.

Or as TBT would put it, when there are terrible terrorist attacks taking place elsewhere, one should shut up about the chaddis' ghar wapsi and sneaky attempts to make Dec 25th a working day. Instead, we should all stand up, maintain two minutes silence and then write post after post strongly condemning those terrorists in 1000-word essays, exhorting moderate Muslims to rein in the terrorists in their midst and weaving in the word "awakening" a couple of times.

Anyone who fails to do all of the above is a jihadi apologist and a wimp.

by Propagandhi711 Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:00 am

sikulars will blame everything and everyone except their favorite religion and it's practitioners. one simply cannot do without kebabs, finely stitched clothing and those bushy beards

by confuzzled dude Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:31 am

Musharraf was on CNN this morning blaming the U.S. for not giving enough funds he says 10 billion, out of which 5 billion were reimbursement for the services provided earlier, were nothing compared to the hundreds of billions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. He went on blaming Karzai and RAW for funding this Taliban group and blamed the U.S. (once again) for not installing the right person after dethroning Taliban in Afghanistan

by Guest Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:59 am

confuzzled dude wrote:Musharraf was on CNN this morning blaming the U.S. for not giving enough funds he says 10 billion, out of which 5 billion were reimbursement for the services provided earlier, were nothing compared to the hundreds of billions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. He went on blaming Karzai and RAW for funding this Taliban group and blamed the U.S. (once again) for not installing the right person after dethroning Taliban in Afghanistan

Ya, blame the US for everything while squeezing out their tax money. It's never their fault! Ungrateful ppl!

by confuzzled dude Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:22 am

Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Musharraf was on CNN this morning blaming the U.S. for not giving enough funds he says 10 billion, out of which 5 billion were reimbursement for the services provided earlier, were nothing compared to the hundreds of billions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. He went on blaming Karzai and RAW for funding this Taliban group and blamed the U.S. (once again) for not installing the right person after dethroning Taliban in Afghanistan
Ya, blame the US for everything while squeezing out their tax money. It's never their fault! Ungrateful ppl!

Ungrateful! It's not like that was charitable donation. I'd rather see the US treat the ISI and pak military on par with the Taliban than funding them

by Guest Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:40 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Musharraf was on CNN this morning blaming the U.S. for not giving enough funds he says 10 billion, out of which 5 billion were reimbursement for the services provided earlier, were nothing compared to the hundreds of billions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. He went on blaming Karzai and RAW for funding this Taliban group and blamed the U.S. (once again) for not installing the right person after dethroning Taliban in Afghanistan
Ya, blame the US for everything while squeezing out their tax money. It's never their fault! Ungrateful ppl!
Ungrateful! It's not like that was charitable donation. I'd rather see the US treat the ISI and pak military on par with the Taliban than funding them

Ya, like they have their grand father's property in the US and so they are entitled to it and hence demanding it!

by confuzzled dude Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:54 am

Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Musharraf was on CNN this morning blaming the U.S. for not giving enough funds he says 10 billion, out of which 5 billion were reimbursement for the services provided earlier, were nothing compared to the hundreds of billions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. He went on blaming Karzai and RAW for funding this Taliban group and blamed the U.S. (once again) for not installing the right person after dethroning Taliban in Afghanistan
Ya, blame the US for everything while squeezing out their tax money. It's never their fault! Ungrateful ppl!
Ungrateful! It's not like that was charitable donation. I'd rather see the US treat the ISI and pak military on par with the Taliban than funding them
Ya, like they have their grand father's property in the US and so they are entitled to it and hence demanding it!

There is no free money involved here, Pakistan was paid for the services rendered, it's not their fault that the U.S failed to keep close tabs on the services provided

by Guest Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:04 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Musharraf was on CNN this morning blaming the U.S. for not giving enough funds he says 10 billion, out of which 5 billion were reimbursement for the services provided earlier, were nothing compared to the hundreds of billions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. He went on blaming Karzai and RAW for funding this Taliban group and blamed the U.S. (once again) for not installing the right person after dethroning Taliban in Afghanistan
Ya, blame the US for everything while squeezing out their tax money. It's never their fault! Ungrateful ppl!
Ungrateful! It's not like that was charitable donation. I'd rather see the US treat the ISI and pak military on par with the Taliban than funding them
Ya, like they have their grand father's property in the US and so they are entitled to it and hence demanding it!
There is no free money involved here, Pakistan was paid for the services rendered, it's not their fault that the U.S failed to keep close tabs on the services provided

Woo hoo! what services? giving intelligence reports? We've seen it in case of Osama. Ya, they were pretty successful in giving info about Osama and helping the US attack him.

Edit: Had they utilized all the billions they gobbled up from US and worked with resolve to root out the extremists, they wouldn't have lost those 132 innocent children.

by Kris Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:07 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:Musharraf was on CNN this morning blaming the U.S. for not giving enough funds he says 10 billion, out of which 5 billion were reimbursement for the services provided earlier, were nothing compared to the hundreds of billions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. He went on blaming Karzai and RAW for funding this Taliban group and blamed the U.S. (once again) for not installing the right person after dethroning Taliban in Afghanistan
Ya, blame the US for everything while squeezing out their tax money. It's never their fault! Ungrateful ppl!
Ungrateful! It's not like that was charitable donation. I'd rather see the US treat the ISI and pak military on par with the Taliban than funding them

>>>You have a point there. This has been a case of prolonged duplicity. I think the realization of being taken for a ride has come only relatively recently to the US. Obama's not advising the Pakistani officials of the raid on Osama is telling. I think now it has taken on the tone of 'keep your friends close, but your enemies closer'. With regard to the most recent attack, already noises are being made in certain Pakistani quarters about Indian involvement. It is very possible this becomes an excuse to make India the bogeyman and turn the Talibanis in India's direction. Then it will be business as usual at least in the short term.

by Hellsangel Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:40 pm

Musharraf is searching for relevancy. Comrade should take his own advice about ignoring Musharraf.

In the meantime:

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said that there is now no distinction between ‘good and bad Taliban’ and that the country was united to fight the menace of terrorism.

by confuzzled dude Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:22 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Musharraf is searching for relevancy. Comrade should take his own advice about ignoring Musharraf.

In the meantime:

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said that there is now no distinction between ‘good and bad Taliban’ and that the country was united to fight the menace of terrorism.

I was more disappointed with CNN for interviewing Musharraf than his comments which were along the expected lines

by nevada Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:42 pm

There are old news reports about the Taliban extracting Jiziya payment from the Sikhs of the NWFP. They had to pay a huge ransom or else face forcible conversion/death. Their complaints fell on deaf ears. It seemed absurd that these rogues were de facto rulers of the province with their own private armies with no objection whatsoever from the paki government.

Now that the Talibs(students of gruesome killing techniques?) have killed Muslim school children, Sharif says there is no more "good taliban". What a tool! Was he sleeping all these days or was he getting a cut from the Jiziya payments?

by Kris Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:59 pm

nevada wrote:There are old news reports about the Taliban extracting Jiziya payment from the Sikhs of the NWFP. They had to pay a huge ransom or else face forcible conversion/death. Their complaints fell on deaf ears. It seemed absurd that these rogues were de facto rulers of the province with their own private armies with no objection whatsoever from the paki government.

Now that the Talibs(students of gruesome killing techniques?) have killed Muslim school children, Sharif says there is no more "good taliban". What a tool! Was he sleeping all these days or was he getting a cut from the Jiziya payments?

>>The Pakistani military complex has always played this game. It is just that the thugs have turned on them now.

by southindian Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:30 pm

Pakis created a religious monster that was so easy, considering vulnerabilities of Muslim religion. Now the monster has grown too big, has its own brain and is out of Paki control.

by rawemotions Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:55 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:While residents jehadi apologists are whining about christmas celebration in India, the jehadis continued their sacred duty of killing innocent people.

Would the apologists argue that jehadis are only a small group of pakistanis?

Would the apologists say that US drone attacks inspired these jehadis?

Would they come out with koranic verses against killing innocents?

Would they ever own up to barbaric nature of medieval islamic thought dominating pakistan and other islamic cultures?

would they admit to the error of jehadi apologist way of thinking?

would they find a minor escape clause in news item?

would they just divert the issue calling others names?

It is sad and tragic that this terror act targeted innocent people, especially school children. I strongly condemn this dastardly act and no effort should be spared in bringing the culprits to justice.

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Yes. I hope the world equally condemned the Kaluchak Massacre when Innocent Indian children were killed by Pakistan backed terrorists.

BTW the Pakistanis flew over to Afghanistan and got Ghani's permissions to operate inside Afghanistan to neutralize Mullah Fazullah, but they will deny the same to India when it wants to take on the UN designated terrorists in LeT/JuD/JeM and will instead support them.

They are doing all this, while letting the UN designated terrorist organization LeT/JuD etc.. float conspiracy theories about India.

by Propagandhi711 Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:47 pm

are the great human rights proponents that wept eloquently, uncontrollably & breastbeatingly (with firm wrists mind you) when india executed afzal guru and kasab also staging dharnas in front of pakistan high commission at their swift reinstatement of death penalty and hanging half a dozen of those they deemed terrorists post haste? or are they hiding behind what happens in pakistan stays in pakistan and must not be commented on?

by Propagandhi711 Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:53 pm

nevada wrote:There are old news reports about the Taliban extracting Jiziya payment from the Sikhs of the NWFP. They had to pay a huge ransom or else face forcible conversion/death. Their complaints fell on deaf ears. It seemed absurd that these rogues were de facto rulers of the province with their own private armies with no objection whatsoever from the paki government.

Now that the Talibs(students of gruesome killing techniques?) have killed Muslim school children, Sharif says there is no more "good taliban". What a tool! Was he sleeping all these days or was he getting a cut from the Jiziya payments?

since when did any muslim majority country, let alone pakistan actually care about minorities? it flies against their core beliefs

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