Strangers in their own land

It was against this backdrop that Muslims “began to be singled out for economic boycott, as financial prosperity is the key to political power,” says Mr. Yadav. Religious polarisation caused by the 2013 riots, he points out, resulted in not one Muslim from UP being elected to Parliament in 2014; a first since Independence. He continues: “The Jats, egged on by the Hindutva groups, want to ensure similar results in the 2017 Assembly polls.”

Varun Bahadur, departmental store owner in Shiv Chowk, confirms the economic boycott: “I receive many WhatsApp messages appealing to Hindus to avoid Muslim shops, mechanics, hotels and everything associated with them. We have reached the brink of a civil war.”

Clearly, not all Muslims prospered but those who did became more visible, as in western UP, and expanded their influence from business to politics. They first became objects of envy, then, fuelled by Hindu right-wing groups, targets of hatred. The 2002 communal violence in Gujarat saw Muslim establishments targeted with a large number of ensuing deaths. In 2013, communal violence in western UP’s Muzaffarnagar district saw a handful of deaths but around 50,000 Muslims fleeing villages, losing homes and livelihoods. In 2014’s general elections, the religious polarisation ensured that not even one Muslim MP was elected from UP, a first since Independence.

This is the new model of communal violence, one that targets the sources of livelihood of Muslims rather than targeting their lives. We saw it in Delhi’s Trilokpuri before the Delhi elections; in Haryana in places such as Atali; and are now observing it across Bihar as Assembly elections approach.

The message to Muslims, as a local BJP leader in Muzaffarnagar told The Hindu, “It is enough that we let you live here. Don’t raise your heads.”

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It was against this backdrop that Muslims “began to be singled out for economic boycott, as financial prosperity is the key to political power,” says Mr. Yadav. Religious polarisation caused by the 2013 riots, he points out, resulted in not one Muslim from UP being elected to Parliament in 2014; a first since Independence. He continues: “The Jats, egged on by the Hindutva groups, want to ensure similar results in the 2017 Assembly polls.”

Varun Bahadur, departmental store owner in Shiv Chowk, confirms the economic boycott: “I receive many WhatsApp messages appealing to Hindus to avoid Muslim shops, mechanics, hotels and everything associated with them. We have reached the brink of a civil war.”

http://www.thehindu.com/sunday-anchor/strangers-in-their-own-land/article7594292.ece?homepage=true&w=sa

Clearly, not all Muslims prospered but those who did became more visible, as in western UP, and expanded their influence from business to politics. They first became objects of envy, then, fuelled by Hindu right-wing groups, targets of hatred. The 2002 communal violence in Gujarat saw Muslim establishments targeted with a large number of ensuing deaths. In 2013, communal violence in western UP’s Muzaffarnagar district saw a handful of deaths but around 50,000 Muslims fleeing villages, losing homes and livelihoods. In 2014’s general elections, the religious polarisation ensured that not even one Muslim MP was elected from UP, a first since Independence.

This is the new model of communal violence, one that targets the sources of livelihood of Muslims rather than targeting their lives. We saw it in Delhi’s Trilokpuri before the Delhi elections; in Haryana in places such as Atali; and are now observing it across Bihar as Assembly elections approach.

The message to Muslims, as a local BJP leader in Muzaffarnagar told The Hindu, “It is enough that we let you live here. Don’t raise your heads.”

http://www.thehindu.com/sunday-anchor/the-politics-of-economic-embargo/article7594291.ece?homepage=true&w=sa

-> Strange and insecure North India, indeed. Wonder if they need to come up with reserved constituencies for Muslims, like they did for SCs/STs. That should help bridge the gap.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

It was against this backdrop that Muslims “began to be singled out for economic boycott, as financial prosperity is the key to political power,” says Mr. Yadav. Religious polarisation caused by the 2013 riots, he points out, resulted in not one Muslim from UP being elected to Parliament in 2014; a first since Independence. He continues: “The Jats, egged on by the Hindutva groups, want to ensure similar results in the 2017 Assembly polls.”

Varun Bahadur, departmental store owner in Shiv Chowk, confirms the economic boycott: “I receive many WhatsApp messages appealing to Hindus to avoid Muslim shops, mechanics, hotels and everything associated with them. We have reached the brink of a civil war.”

http://www.thehindu.com/sunday-anchor/strangers-in-their-own-land/article7594292.ece?homepage=true&w=sa

Clearly, not all Muslims prospered but those who did became more visible, as in western UP, and expanded their influence from business to politics. They first became objects of envy, then, fuelled by Hindu right-wing groups, targets of hatred. The 2002 communal violence in Gujarat saw Muslim establishments targeted with a large number of ensuing deaths. In 2013, communal violence in western UP’s Muzaffarnagar district saw a handful of deaths but around 50,000 Muslims fleeing villages, losing homes and livelihoods. In 2014’s general elections, the religious polarisation ensured that not even one Muslim MP was elected from UP, a first since Independence.

This is the new model of communal violence, one that targets the sources of livelihood of Muslims rather than targeting their lives. We saw it in Delhi’s Trilokpuri before the Delhi elections; in Haryana in places such as Atali; and are now observing it across Bihar as Assembly elections approach.

The message to Muslims, as a local BJP leader in Muzaffarnagar told The Hindu, “It is enough that we let you live here. Don’t raise your heads.”

http://www.thehindu.com/sunday-anchor/the-politics-of-economic-embargo/article7594291.ece?homepage=true&w=sa

-> Strange and insecure North India, indeed. Wonder if they need to come up with reserved constituencies for Muslims, like they did for SCs/STs. That should help bridge the gap.

Why are you such a staunch muslim advocate - are you a right hand man of Owaisi. Never seen you criticize a single criminal/terror/genocidal act by any muslim anywhere in the world ?

Have you become a Muslim and a Koranist ? - not that there is anything wrong with that.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

It was against this backdrop that Muslims “began to be singled out for economic boycott, as financial prosperity is the key to political power,” says Mr. Yadav. Religious polarisation caused by the 2013 riots, he points out, resulted in not one Muslim from UP being elected to Parliament in 2014; a first since Independence. He continues: “The Jats, egged on by the Hindutva groups, want to ensure similar results in the 2017 Assembly polls.”

Varun Bahadur, departmental store owner in Shiv Chowk, confirms the economic boycott: “I receive many WhatsApp messages appealing to Hindus to avoid Muslim shops, mechanics, hotels and everything associated with them. We have reached the brink of a civil war.”

http://www.thehindu.com/sunday-anchor/strangers-in-their-own-land/article7594292.ece?homepage=true&w=sa

Clearly, not all Muslims prospered but those who did became more visible, as in western UP, and expanded their influence from business to politics. They first became objects of envy, then, fuelled by Hindu right-wing groups, targets of hatred. The 2002 communal violence in Gujarat saw Muslim establishments targeted with a large number of ensuing deaths. In 2013, communal violence in western UP’s Muzaffarnagar district saw a handful of deaths but around 50,000 Muslims fleeing villages, losing homes and livelihoods. In 2014’s general elections, the religious polarisation ensured that not even one Muslim MP was elected from UP, a first since Independence.

This is the new model of communal violence, one that targets the sources of livelihood of Muslims rather than targeting their lives. We saw it in Delhi’s Trilokpuri before the Delhi elections; in Haryana in places such as Atali; and are now observing it across Bihar as Assembly elections approach.

The message to Muslims, as a local BJP leader in Muzaffarnagar told The Hindu, “It is enough that we let you live here. Don’t raise your heads.”

http://www.thehindu.com/sunday-anchor/the-politics-of-economic-embargo/article7594291.ece?homepage=true&w=sa

-> Strange and insecure North India, indeed. Wonder if they need to come up with reserved constituencies for Muslims, like they did for SCs/STs. That should help bridge the gap.

Why are you such a staunch muslim advocate - are you a right hand man of Owaisi. Never seen you criticize a single criminal/terror/genocidal act by any muslim anywhere in the world ?

Have you become a Muslim and a Koranist ? - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Shooting the messenger, eh?

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Wait..now you are the messenger? The promised last Prophet ?

No wonder....

As and when the Ummah understands democracy and learns to live with the majority, they can complain about the seats. Or, perhaps, they can get all the seats they want in their land of the Pure.

BTW, what happened to the 15% of hindus in Pakistan ? I have been asking you forever

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Wait..now you are the messenger? The promised last Prophet ?

No wonder....

As and when the Ummah understands democracy and learns to live with the majority, they can complain about the seats. Or, perhaps, they can get all the seats they want in their land of the Pure.

BTW, what happened to the 15% of hindus in Pakistan ? I have been asking you forever

Duh! They all have migrated to India.

As per the 1931 census, Hindus and Sikhs had a total share of 17% of the total population in the districts that later became West Pakistan. There is no reason to believe that this population ratio changed until the partition in 1947.

To verify the census figures I had to look for another source of data against which these figures can be compared. I searched through newspaper archives to look for migration figures from the time of the Partition to get an idea of the number of Hindus and Sikhs who left West Pakistan.

According to this Reuters report (Exhibit B) published in 1953 a total of 7.5 million Hindus and Sikhs migrated from East and West Pakistan and settled in India by 1951. As per the census carried out by India in 1951 a total of 2.5 million Hindus entered into India from East Pakistan (Bangladesh). This means that out of the total migration of 7.5 million people into India, 5 million entered from West Pakistan and the remaining 2.5 million entered from East Pakistan.

confuzzled dude wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Wait..now you are the messenger? The promised last Prophet ?

No wonder....

As and when the Ummah understands democracy and learns to live with the majority, they can complain about the seats. Or, perhaps, they can get all the seats they want in their land of the Pure.

BTW, what happened to the 15% of hindus in Pakistan ? I have been asking you forever

Duh! They all have migrated to India.

Here is an article that should clear all your doubts about whereabouts of Hindus in Pakistan.

As per the 1931 census, Hindus and Sikhs had a total share of 17% of the total population in the districts that later became West Pakistan. There is no reason to believe that this population ratio changed until the partition in 1947.

To verify the census figures I had to look for another source of data against which these figures can be compared. I searched through newspaper archives to look for migration figures from the time of the Partition to get an idea of the number of Hindus and Sikhs who left West Pakistan.

According to this Reuters report (Exhibit B) published in 1953 a total of 7.5 million Hindus and Sikhs migrated from East and West Pakistan and settled in India by 1951. As per the census carried out by India in 1951 a total of 2.5 million Hindus entered into India from East Pakistan (Bangladesh). This means that out of the total migration of 7.5 million people into India, 5 million entered from West Pakistan and the remaining 2.5 million entered from East Pakistan.

https://bharatjournal.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/what-happened-to-the-hindu-population-of-west-pakistan/

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Here is an article that should clear all your doubts about whereabouts of Hindus in Pakistan.

As per the 1931 census, Hindus and Sikhs had a total share of 17% of the total population in the districts that later became West Pakistan. There is no reason to believe that this population ratio changed until the partition in 1947.

To verify the census figures I had to look for another source of data against which these figures can be compared. I searched through newspaper archives to look for migration figures from the time of the Partition to get an idea of the number of Hindus and Sikhs who left West Pakistan.

According to this Reuters report (Exhibit B) published in 1953 a total of 7.5 million Hindus and Sikhs migrated from East and West Pakistan and settled in India by 1951. As per the census carried out by India in 1951 a total of 2.5 million Hindus entered into India from East Pakistan (Bangladesh). This means that out of the total migration of 7.5 million people into India, 5 million entered from West Pakistan and the remaining 2.5 million entered from East Pakistan.

https://bharatjournal.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/what-happened-to-the-hindu-population-of-west-pakistan/

Now kindly tell us how many muslims migrated from India to Pakistan.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Here is an article that should clear all your doubts about whereabouts of Hindus in Pakistan.

As per the 1931 census, Hindus and Sikhs had a total share of 17% of the total population in the districts that later became West Pakistan. There is no reason to believe that this population ratio changed until the partition in 1947.

To verify the census figures I had to look for another source of data against which these figures can be compared. I searched through newspaper archives to look for migration figures from the time of the Partition to get an idea of the number of Hindus and Sikhs who left West Pakistan.

According to this Reuters report (Exhibit B) published in 1953 a total of 7.5 million Hindus and Sikhs migrated from East and West Pakistan and settled in India by 1951. As per the census carried out by India in 1951 a total of 2.5 million Hindus entered into India from East Pakistan (Bangladesh). This means that out of the total migration of 7.5 million people into India, 5 million entered from West Pakistan and the remaining 2.5 million entered from East Pakistan.

https://bharatjournal.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/what-happened-to-the-hindu-population-of-west-pakistan/

Now kindly tell us how many muslims migrated from India to Pakistan.

What's the relevance?

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Here is an article that should clear all your doubts about whereabouts of Hindus in Pakistan.

As per the 1931 census, Hindus and Sikhs had a total share of 17% of the total population in the districts that later became West Pakistan. There is no reason to believe that this population ratio changed until the partition in 1947.

To verify the census figures I had to look for another source of data against which these figures can be compared. I searched through newspaper archives to look for migration figures from the time of the Partition to get an idea of the number of Hindus and Sikhs who left West Pakistan.

According to this Reuters report (Exhibit B) published in 1953 a total of 7.5 million Hindus and Sikhs migrated from East and West Pakistan and settled in India by 1951. As per the census carried out by India in 1951 a total of 2.5 million Hindus entered into India from East Pakistan (Bangladesh). This means that out of the total migration of 7.5 million people into India, 5 million entered from West Pakistan and the remaining 2.5 million entered from East Pakistan.

https://bharatjournal.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/what-happened-to-the-hindu-population-of-west-pakistan/

Now kindly tell us how many muslims migrated from India to Pakistan.

What's the relevance?

You will know when you answer my question.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
Here is an article that should clear all your doubts about whereabouts of Hindus in Pakistan.

https://bharatjournal.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/what-happened-to-the-hindu-population-of-west-pakistan/

Now kindly tell us how many muslims migrated from India to Pakistan.

What's the relevance?

You will know when you answer my question.

Basically, you're moving the goal post and trying to morph your own argument into population growth issue.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Now kindly tell us how many muslims migrated from India to Pakistan.

What's the relevance?

You will know when you answer my question.

Basically, you're moving the goal post and trying to morph your own argument into population growth issue.

No...Dont try to outthink me.  Wont happen in this lifetime.  Answer my question and you will know the answer.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
What's the relevance?

You will know when you answer my question.

Basically, you're moving the goal post and trying to morph your own argument into population growth issue.

No...Dont try to outthink me.  Wont happen in this lifetime.  Answer my question and you will know the answer.

Whatever! your question has been answered. So stop whining about Hindus in Pakistan; almost all of them are safely living or have lived in Independent India.